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    • Kirwan
      Kirwan last edited by

      Worth it's own thread now we have the Synder Cut coming for Justice League, a new Batman movie, and some very interesting news coming out about Micheal Keaton coming back as Batman too!

      Rumour is that he's signing for a multi-movie deal to act as a Nick Fury type role, being introduced in the new Flash movie (potential for all the Batmans to appear in that movie, incuding the Thomas Wayne Batman. So Adam West, Bale, Battfleck, all of them, which will be nuts).

      It'll be the Batman Beyond, mentor type Batman, but instead of the Terry Batman, it's supposed to a mentor to Batgirl.

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      • Hooroo
        Hooroo @Kirwan last edited by

        @Kirwan said in DCEU:

        Worth it's own thread now we have the Synder Cut coming for Justice League, a new Batman movie, and some very interesting news coming out about Micheal Keaton coming back as Batman too!

        Rumour is that he's signing for a multi-movie deal to act as a Nick Fury type role, being introduced in the new Flash movie (potential for all the Batmans to appear in that movie, incuding the Thomas Wayne Batman. So Adam West, Bale, Battfleck, all of them, which will be nuts).

        It'll be the Batman Beyond, mentor type Batman, but instead of the Terry Batman, it's supposed to a mentor to Batgirl.

        Excited and confused at once.

        What's a Synder Cut?
        Is Keaton coming back as Batman or a Fury type role or is it one of the same?

        I don't understand your two last sentences but am excited all the same.

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        • Kiwiwomble
          Kiwiwomble last edited by

          yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

          could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

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          • Kirwan
            Kirwan @Hooroo last edited by Kirwan

            @Hooroo said in DCEU:

            @Kirwan said in DCEU:

            Worth it's own thread now we have the Synder Cut coming for Justice League, a new Batman movie, and some very interesting news coming out about Micheal Keaton coming back as Batman too!

            Rumour is that he's signing for a multi-movie deal to act as a Nick Fury type role, being introduced in the new Flash movie (potential for all the Batmans to appear in that movie, incuding the Thomas Wayne Batman. So Adam West, Bale, Battfleck, all of them, which will be nuts).

            It'll be the Batman Beyond, mentor type Batman, but instead of the Terry Batman, it's supposed to a mentor to Batgirl.

            Excited and confused at once.

            What's a Synder Cut?
            Is Keaton coming back as Batman or a Fury type role or is it one of the same?

            I don't understand your two last sentences but am excited all the same.

            The last Justice League movie had two directors, Synder and Josh Wheddon (First two Avengers films over at Marvel). The studio butchered that film and re-shot a lot of stuff and pretty much ruined it.

            There has been a campaign to get the original director back and finish his version of the movie. That's going to happen on HBO Max as series of one hour episodes (some of this is delving into rumour territory again). I think it's a four hour version, it might six not sure.

            It makes Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, and Justice League into a trilogy of sorts and the tone/story will be consistent across them all. That's a good thing if you like those films (which I do).

            So the comics have this concept of the multiverse, where there are multiple version of Earth and these heros. So you have Batman on Earth-2 that's slightly different to the main version (Adam West Batman is Earth-66, and Keaton's is Earth-89).

            There is a new Flash film coming up that is supposed to be doing the Flashpoint storyline from the comics. In that, Flash is able to cross over into the multiverse so you see these different version of the characters (A favourite Thomas Wayne becoming Batman after seeing his son Bruce gunned down in Crime Alley. His wife, Martha, goes mad and becomes the Joker in that version).

            Somehow, this is going to allow them to use Keaton's Batman as a consistent thread across multiple movies, similar to how Marvel use Nick Fury. Don't know how that's going to work.

            The clever/funny thing is this means all the Joker, Batman, Superman movies that have been made so far will now all be linked in DC Extended Universe. It also lets them re-boot what they have done so far and retain story elements they want to keep (Wonder Woman and Aquaman).

            Fun comic book movie nerdage.

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            • Kirwan
              Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

              @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

              yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

              could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

              Yeah, but Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne mentoring Batgirl is such a big change it may no longer be in the future too.

              Multiverse lets them have their cake and eat it too with all the different versions.

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              • Kiwiwomble
                Kiwiwomble @Kirwan last edited by Kiwiwomble

                @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

                could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

                Yeah, but Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne mentoring Batgirl is such a big change it may no longer be in the future too.

                Multiverse lets them have their cake and eat it too with all the different versions.

                i dont think mentoring a female "the bat" would change that much

                my problem with the multiverse on screen is that fans generally read the comics and understood what they were getting into, stories aren't inherently connected etc, the films have a much bigger casual fan base and i think it get confusing for them, tv series seems to have got it right...not so much the movies,,,the movies just seem like lots of reboots

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                • Hooroo
                  Hooroo @Kirwan last edited by

                  @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                  @Hooroo said in DCEU:

                  @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                  Worth it's own thread now we have the Synder Cut coming for Justice League, a new Batman movie, and some very interesting news coming out about Micheal Keaton coming back as Batman too!

                  Rumour is that he's signing for a multi-movie deal to act as a Nick Fury type role, being introduced in the new Flash movie (potential for all the Batmans to appear in that movie, incuding the Thomas Wayne Batman. So Adam West, Bale, Battfleck, all of them, which will be nuts).

                  It'll be the Batman Beyond, mentor type Batman, but instead of the Terry Batman, it's supposed to a mentor to Batgirl.

                  Excited and confused at once.

                  What's a Synder Cut?
                  Is Keaton coming back as Batman or a Fury type role or is it one of the same?

                  I don't understand your two last sentences but am excited all the same.

                  The last Justice League movie had two directors, Synder and Josh Wheddon (First two Avengers films over at Marvel). The studio butchered that film and re-shot a lot of stuff and pretty much ruined it.

                  There has been a campaign to get the original director back and finish his version of the movie. That's going to happen on HBO Max as series of one hour episodes (some of this is delving into rumour territory again). I think it's a four hour version, it might six not sure.

                  It makes Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, and Justice League into a trilogy of sorts and the tone/story will be consistent across them all. That's a good thing if you like those films (which I do).

                  So the comics have this concept of the multiverse, where there are multiple version of Earth and these heros. So you have Batman on Earth-2 that's slightly different to the main version (Adam West Batman is Earth-66, and Keaton's is Earth-89).

                  There is a new Flash film coming up that is supposed to be doing the Flashpoint storyline from the comics. In that, Flash is able to cross over into the multiverse so you see these different version of the characters (A favourite Thomas Wayne becoming Batman after seeing his son Bruce gunned down in Crime Alley. His wife, Martha, goes mad and becomes the Joker in that version).

                  Somehow, this is going to allow them to use Keaton's Batman as a consistent thread across multiple movies, similar to how Marvel use Nick Fury. Don't know how that's going to work.

                  The clever/funny thing is this means all the Joker, Batman, Superman movies that have been made so far will now all be linked in DC Extended Universe. It also lets them re-boot what they have done so far and retain story elements they want to keep (Wonder Woman and Aquaman).

                  Fun comic book movie nerdage.

                  This is very helpful!! I get all of that and I can't wait.

                  I love these types of movies and haven't hated any of them so far. I liked Affleck as Batman too.

                  Has the Robert Patterson as Batman rumour been put to bed?

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                  • V
                    Virgil last edited by

                    The DC universe has been a total mess.
                    Pretty much did everything Marvel did well and did the opposite of it.

                    Not sure they have had the right choice of directors too.
                    Zac Snyder is one of those all flash cgi over story type of guy.
                    Have always been a Batman fan, but they haven’t done him right since the Dark Knight trilogy.

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                    • Kirwan
                      Kirwan @Hooroo last edited by

                      @Hooroo said in DCEU:

                      @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                      @Hooroo said in DCEU:

                      @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                      Worth it's own thread now we have the Synder Cut coming for Justice League, a new Batman movie, and some very interesting news coming out about Micheal Keaton coming back as Batman too!

                      Rumour is that he's signing for a multi-movie deal to act as a Nick Fury type role, being introduced in the new Flash movie (potential for all the Batmans to appear in that movie, incuding the Thomas Wayne Batman. So Adam West, Bale, Battfleck, all of them, which will be nuts).

                      It'll be the Batman Beyond, mentor type Batman, but instead of the Terry Batman, it's supposed to a mentor to Batgirl.

                      Excited and confused at once.

                      What's a Synder Cut?
                      Is Keaton coming back as Batman or a Fury type role or is it one of the same?

                      I don't understand your two last sentences but am excited all the same.

                      The last Justice League movie had two directors, Synder and Josh Wheddon (First two Avengers films over at Marvel). The studio butchered that film and re-shot a lot of stuff and pretty much ruined it.

                      There has been a campaign to get the original director back and finish his version of the movie. That's going to happen on HBO Max as series of one hour episodes (some of this is delving into rumour territory again). I think it's a four hour version, it might six not sure.

                      It makes Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, and Justice League into a trilogy of sorts and the tone/story will be consistent across them all. That's a good thing if you like those films (which I do).

                      So the comics have this concept of the multiverse, where there are multiple version of Earth and these heros. So you have Batman on Earth-2 that's slightly different to the main version (Adam West Batman is Earth-66, and Keaton's is Earth-89).

                      There is a new Flash film coming up that is supposed to be doing the Flashpoint storyline from the comics. In that, Flash is able to cross over into the multiverse so you see these different version of the characters (A favourite Thomas Wayne becoming Batman after seeing his son Bruce gunned down in Crime Alley. His wife, Martha, goes mad and becomes the Joker in that version).

                      Somehow, this is going to allow them to use Keaton's Batman as a consistent thread across multiple movies, similar to how Marvel use Nick Fury. Don't know how that's going to work.

                      The clever/funny thing is this means all the Joker, Batman, Superman movies that have been made so far will now all be linked in DC Extended Universe. It also lets them re-boot what they have done so far and retain story elements they want to keep (Wonder Woman and Aquaman).

                      Fun comic book movie nerdage.

                      This is very helpful!! I get all of that and I can't wait.

                      I love these types of movies and haven't hated any of them so far. I liked Affleck as Batman too.

                      Has the Robert Patterson as Batman rumour been put to bed?

                      They are halfway through filming "The Batman" with him;

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                      • Kirwan
                        Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                        @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                        @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                        @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                        yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

                        could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

                        Yeah, but Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne mentoring Batgirl is such a big change it may no longer be in the future too.

                        Multiverse lets them have their cake and eat it too with all the different versions.

                        i dont think mentoring "the bat" would change that much

                        my problem with the multiverse on screen is that fans generally read the comics and understood what they were getting into, stories aren't inherently connected etc, the films have a much bigger casual fan base and i think it get confusing for them, tv series seems to have got it right...not so much the movies,,,the movies just seem like lots of reboots

                        It's super confusing, so I'm interested to see how they are going to handle it. The focus recently has been on standalone stories, and they seem pretty popular.

                        I have to wonder how many times they can reboot Batman before people lose interest.

                        And of course Warner Bros have signed JJ Abrams to a huge producing deal, and the rumour is they want him to to Superman, and there are mumorings he wants to recast. Which would suck.

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                        • Kirwan
                          Kirwan @Virgil last edited by

                          @Virgil said in DCEU:

                          The DC universe has been a total mess.
                          Pretty much did everything Marvel did well and did the opposite of it.

                          Not sure they have had the right choice of directors too.
                          Zac Snyder is one of those all flash cgi over story type of guy.
                          Have always been a Batman fan, but they haven’t done him right since the Dark Knight trilogy.

                          They just needed to do Man of Steel 2 and Aquaman before doing the Justice League instead of rushing it.

                          The last Dark Knight movie was pretty stupid, so it's not all rosey in that trilogy either. Battfleck hands down has the best Batman fight sequence. Excuse to post/watch this again;

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                          • Kiwiwomble
                            Kiwiwomble @Kirwan last edited by

                            @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                            @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                            yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

                            could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

                            Yeah, but Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne mentoring Batgirl is such a big change it may no longer be in the future too.

                            Multiverse lets them have their cake and eat it too with all the different versions.

                            i dont think mentoring "the bat" would change that much

                            my problem with the multiverse on screen is that fans generally read the comics and understood what they were getting into, stories aren't inherently connected etc, the films have a much bigger casual fan base and i think it get confusing for them, tv series seems to have got it right...not so much the movies,,,the movies just seem like lots of reboots

                            It's super confusing, so I'm interested to see how they are going to handle it. The focus recently has been on standalone stories, and they seem pretty popular.

                            > I have to wonder how many times they can reboot Batman before people lose interest.

                            And of course Warner Bros have signed JJ Abrams to a huge producing deal, and the rumour is they want him to to Superman, and there are mumorings he wants to recast. Which would suck.

                            id say thats already happening, especially when batfleck was so well received and then recast

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                            • Kirwan
                              Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                              @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                              @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                              @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                              yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

                              could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

                              Yeah, but Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne mentoring Batgirl is such a big change it may no longer be in the future too.

                              Multiverse lets them have their cake and eat it too with all the different versions.

                              i dont think mentoring "the bat" would change that much

                              my problem with the multiverse on screen is that fans generally read the comics and understood what they were getting into, stories aren't inherently connected etc, the films have a much bigger casual fan base and i think it get confusing for them, tv series seems to have got it right...not so much the movies,,,the movies just seem like lots of reboots

                              It's super confusing, so I'm interested to see how they are going to handle it. The focus recently has been on standalone stories, and they seem pretty popular.

                              > I have to wonder how many times they can reboot Batman before people lose interest.

                              And of course Warner Bros have signed JJ Abrams to a huge producing deal, and the rumour is they want him to to Superman, and there are mumorings he wants to recast. Which would suck.

                              id say thats already happening, especially when batfleck was so well received and then recast

                              That was more due to Ben Affleck going off the wagon. They gave him a movie to write, direct and star in but personal problems got in the way.

                              And he might be back too in the Synder Cut reshoots they are doing.

                              Would have loved to seen what he would have done with that.

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                              • Kiwiwomble
                                Kiwiwomble @Kirwan last edited by

                                @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

                                could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

                                Yeah, but Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne mentoring Batgirl is such a big change it may no longer be in the future too.

                                Multiverse lets them have their cake and eat it too with all the different versions.

                                i dont think mentoring "the bat" would change that much

                                my problem with the multiverse on screen is that fans generally read the comics and understood what they were getting into, stories aren't inherently connected etc, the films have a much bigger casual fan base and i think it get confusing for them, tv series seems to have got it right...not so much the movies,,,the movies just seem like lots of reboots

                                It's super confusing, so I'm interested to see how they are going to handle it. The focus recently has been on standalone stories, and they seem pretty popular.

                                > I have to wonder how many times they can reboot Batman before people lose interest.

                                And of course Warner Bros have signed JJ Abrams to a huge producing deal, and the rumour is they want him to to Superman, and there are mumorings he wants to recast. Which would suck.

                                id say thats already happening, especially when batfleck was so well received and then recast

                                That was more due to Ben Affleck going off the wagon. They gave him a movie to write, direct and star in but personal problems got in the way.

                                And he might be back too in the Synder Cut reshoots they are doing.

                                Would have loved to seen what he would have done with that.

                                hopefully if hes happy to come back for reshoots be may have calmed down a bit...might get back on board? Battenson can be a stand alone but the main continuity stays with Batfleck...probably not

                                i'll just add im excited to see the snyder cut but it does just add to the fucked up ness of the DCEU, two completely different version of the same movie being out there

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                                • Kirwan
                                  Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                  @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                  @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                  @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                  yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

                                  could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

                                  Yeah, but Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne mentoring Batgirl is such a big change it may no longer be in the future too.

                                  Multiverse lets them have their cake and eat it too with all the different versions.

                                  i dont think mentoring "the bat" would change that much

                                  my problem with the multiverse on screen is that fans generally read the comics and understood what they were getting into, stories aren't inherently connected etc, the films have a much bigger casual fan base and i think it get confusing for them, tv series seems to have got it right...not so much the movies,,,the movies just seem like lots of reboots

                                  It's super confusing, so I'm interested to see how they are going to handle it. The focus recently has been on standalone stories, and they seem pretty popular.

                                  > I have to wonder how many times they can reboot Batman before people lose interest.

                                  And of course Warner Bros have signed JJ Abrams to a huge producing deal, and the rumour is they want him to to Superman, and there are mumorings he wants to recast. Which would suck.

                                  id say thats already happening, especially when batfleck was so well received and then recast

                                  That was more due to Ben Affleck going off the wagon. They gave him a movie to write, direct and star in but personal problems got in the way.

                                  And he might be back too in the Synder Cut reshoots they are doing.

                                  Would have loved to seen what he would have done with that.

                                  hopefully if hes happy to come back for reshoots be may have calmed down a bit...might get back on board? Battenson can be a stand alone but the main continuity stays with Batfleck...probably not

                                  i'll just add im excited to see the snyder cut but it does just add to the fucked up ness of the DCEU, two completely different version of the same movie being out there

                                  Same with the Joker movie though, and that's not connected to Synderverse or the new Batman. I think it can work to have completely disconnected movies, and have some connected as long as they tell mostly standalone stories.

                                  The linked world should be a bonus, you shoudn't have to watch ten films to understand the plot.

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                                  • Kiwiwomble
                                    Kiwiwomble @Kirwan last edited by

                                    @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                    @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                    @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                    @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                    yeah, i saw it reported as the Batman Beyond Bruce wayne, batman beyond was pretty cool so if they could capture that then it could work

                                    could also help clean up a bit of the mess they have with so many different universes, jump forward in time a bit

                                    Yeah, but Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne mentoring Batgirl is such a big change it may no longer be in the future too.

                                    Multiverse lets them have their cake and eat it too with all the different versions.

                                    i dont think mentoring "the bat" would change that much

                                    my problem with the multiverse on screen is that fans generally read the comics and understood what they were getting into, stories aren't inherently connected etc, the films have a much bigger casual fan base and i think it get confusing for them, tv series seems to have got it right...not so much the movies,,,the movies just seem like lots of reboots

                                    It's super confusing, so I'm interested to see how they are going to handle it. The focus recently has been on standalone stories, and they seem pretty popular.

                                    > I have to wonder how many times they can reboot Batman before people lose interest.

                                    And of course Warner Bros have signed JJ Abrams to a huge producing deal, and the rumour is they want him to to Superman, and there are mumorings he wants to recast. Which would suck.

                                    id say thats already happening, especially when batfleck was so well received and then recast

                                    That was more due to Ben Affleck going off the wagon. They gave him a movie to write, direct and star in but personal problems got in the way.

                                    And he might be back too in the Synder Cut reshoots they are doing.

                                    Would have loved to seen what he would have done with that.

                                    hopefully if hes happy to come back for reshoots be may have calmed down a bit...might get back on board? Battenson can be a stand alone but the main continuity stays with Batfleck...probably not

                                    i'll just add im excited to see the snyder cut but it does just add to the fucked up ness of the DCEU, two completely different version of the same movie being out there

                                    Same with the Joker movie though, and that's not connected to Synderverse or the new Batman. I think it can work to have completely disconnected movies, and have some connected as long as they tell mostly standalone stories.

                                    The linked world should be a bonus, you shoudn't have to watch ten films to understand the plot.

                                    i'll agree with this in so far as different heros etc....but as much as i liked Joker...having the Joker without batman...feels weird

                                    kind if think that film would have bee equally good if he just wasnt the joker and it just told the story of a guy going mad, cut about five minutes of footage and not have him ask to be called joker and you'd have it

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                                    • antipodean
                                      antipodean @Kirwan last edited by

                                      @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                      The linked world should be a bonus, you shoudn't have to watch ten films to understand the plot.

                                      The least a true fan could do.

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                                      • Kiwiwomble
                                        Kiwiwomble @antipodean last edited by

                                        @antipodean said in DCEU:

                                        @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                        The linked world should be a bonus, you shoudn't have to watch ten films to understand the plot.

                                        The least a true fan could do.

                                        someone should tell marvel this, wouldn't want their EU to fail....🤨

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                                        • antipodean
                                          antipodean last edited by

                                          Sarcasm aside, each movie should be able to stand alone. Even the "we all come together to save the world" should be able to do so and people can then have a look at other character's.

                                          Or don't I understand writing a script?

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                                          • Kiwiwomble
                                            Kiwiwomble @antipodean last edited by

                                            @antipodean said in DCEU:

                                            Sarcasm aside, each movie should be able to stand alone. Even the "we all come together to save the world" should be able to do so and people can then have a look at other character's.

                                            Or don't I understand writing a script?

                                            i think marvel proved if dont right thats not the case anymore

                                            even if you watched all the avengers....things would not make complete sense let alone if you went straight to infinity war

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                                            • raznomore
                                              raznomore last edited by raznomore

                                              Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?

                                              Is there a Flash movie? have they cast the Flash?

                                              Edit: I just thought Ezra Miller was canceled for choking out a fan.

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                                              • Kirwan
                                                Kirwan @raznomore last edited by

                                                @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?

                                                Is the Flash movie? have they cast the Flash?

                                                Edit: I just thought Ezra Miller was canceled for choking out a fan.

                                                He has a particularl visual style, and his movies can be a bit long for some people, but I like his movies.

                                                Ezra seems to have avoided the bullet for that incident. Have you seen it? It's not as black and white as you describe, it was weird.

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                                                • Nepia
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                                                  @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                  Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?

                                                  I've regularly commented on my dislike of Snyder's directing - the last film of his I truly liked was 300. I didn't want to be the first to comment and incur @Kirwan's wraith in this thread. 😉

                                                  I haven't heard any of these rumours yet (I'm about two weeks behind on the Fatman Beyond podcast but I'm sure they'll discuss this). Keaton coming back to the franchise will be good.

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                                                    Kirwan @Nepia last edited by

                                                    @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                    @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                    Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?
                                                    

                                                    I've regularly commented on my dislike of Snyder's directing - the last film of his I truly liked was 300. I didn't want to be the first to comment and incur @Kirwan's wraith in this thread. 😉

                                                    I haven't heard any of these rumours yet (I'm about two weeks behind on the Fatman Beyond podcast but I'm sure they'll discuss this). Keaton coming back to the franchise will be good.

                                                    It's all subjective. Plenty dislike JJ Abrams style too, and Tarantino. At least when directors have a distinctive style you know what you are in for, and it's easy to avoid if you don't like it.

                                                    Smith is LOVING the news 🙂

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                                                      Nepia @Kirwan last edited by

                                                      @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                      @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                      @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                      Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?
                                                      

                                                      I've regularly commented on my dislike of Snyder's directing - the last film of his I truly liked was 300. I didn't want to be the first to comment and incur @Kirwan's wraith in this thread. 😉

                                                      I haven't heard any of these rumours yet (I'm about two weeks behind on the Fatman Beyond podcast but I'm sure they'll discuss this). Keaton coming back to the franchise will be good.

                                                      It's all subjective. Plenty dislike JJ Abrams style too, and Tarantino. At least when directors have a distinctive style you know what you are in for, and it's easy to avoid if you don't like it.

                                                      Smith is LOVING the news 🙂

                                                      Oh definitely, I love Tarantino, mostly like JJ (most recent Star Wars definitely excluded) and pretty much dislike all of Snyders superhero movies, which is disappointing because I want to see good Batman and Superman. I'm looking forward to the Robert Pattinson one although I think it's going to be another more 'adult' version however it looks interesting.

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                                                        Kirwan @Nepia last edited by

                                                        @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                        @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                        @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                        @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                        Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?
                                                        

                                                        I've regularly commented on my dislike of Snyder's directing - the last film of his I truly liked was 300. I didn't want to be the first to comment and incur @Kirwan's wraith in this thread. 😉

                                                        I haven't heard any of these rumours yet (I'm about two weeks behind on the Fatman Beyond podcast but I'm sure they'll discuss this). Keaton coming back to the franchise will be good.

                                                        It's all subjective. Plenty dislike JJ Abrams style too, and Tarantino. At least when directors have a distinctive style you know what you are in for, and it's easy to avoid if you don't like it.

                                                        Smith is LOVING the news 🙂

                                                        Oh definitely, I love Tarantino, mostly like JJ (most recent Star Wars definitely excluded) and pretty much dislike all of Snyders superhero movies, which is disappointing because I want to see good Batman and Superman. I'm looking forward to the Robert Pattinson one although I think it's going to be another more 'adult' version however it looks interesting.

                                                        Did you like the Planet of the Apes movies?

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                                                          Nepia @Kirwan last edited by

                                                          @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                          @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                          @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                          @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                          @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                          Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?
                                                          

                                                          I've regularly commented on my dislike of Snyder's directing - the last film of his I truly liked was 300. I didn't want to be the first to comment and incur @Kirwan's wraith in this thread. 😉

                                                          I haven't heard any of these rumours yet (I'm about two weeks behind on the Fatman Beyond podcast but I'm sure they'll discuss this). Keaton coming back to the franchise will be good.

                                                          It's all subjective. Plenty dislike JJ Abrams style too, and Tarantino. At least when directors have a distinctive style you know what you are in for, and it's easy to avoid if you don't like it.

                                                          Smith is LOVING the news 🙂

                                                          Oh definitely, I love Tarantino, mostly like JJ (most recent Star Wars definitely excluded) and pretty much dislike all of Snyders superhero movies, which is disappointing because I want to see good Batman and Superman. I'm looking forward to the Robert Pattinson one although I think it's going to be another more 'adult' version however it looks interesting.

                                                          Did you like the Planet of the Apes movies?

                                                          Yep. Are they directed by that guy?

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                                                            Kirwan @Nepia last edited by

                                                            @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                            @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                            @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                            @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                            @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                            @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                            Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?
                                                            

                                                            I've regularly commented on my dislike of Snyder's directing - the last film of his I truly liked was 300. I didn't want to be the first to comment and incur @Kirwan's wraith in this thread. 😉

                                                            I haven't heard any of these rumours yet (I'm about two weeks behind on the Fatman Beyond podcast but I'm sure they'll discuss this). Keaton coming back to the franchise will be good.

                                                            It's all subjective. Plenty dislike JJ Abrams style too, and Tarantino. At least when directors have a distinctive style you know what you are in for, and it's easy to avoid if you don't like it.

                                                            Smith is LOVING the news 🙂

                                                            Oh definitely, I love Tarantino, mostly like JJ (most recent Star Wars definitely excluded) and pretty much dislike all of Snyders superhero movies, which is disappointing because I want to see good Batman and Superman. I'm looking forward to the Robert Pattinson one although I think it's going to be another more 'adult' version however it looks interesting.

                                                            Did you like the Planet of the Apes movies?

                                                            Yep. Are they directed by that guy?

                                                            Reeves, who is doing the new Batman movie. So imagine the style will be different, but those movies were well made.

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                                                              Nepia @Kirwan last edited by

                                                              @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                              @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                              @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                              @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                              @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                              @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                              @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                              Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?
                                                              

                                                              I've regularly commented on my dislike of Snyder's directing - the last film of his I truly liked was 300. I didn't want to be the first to comment and incur @Kirwan's wraith in this thread. 😉

                                                              I haven't heard any of these rumours yet (I'm about two weeks behind on the Fatman Beyond podcast but I'm sure they'll discuss this). Keaton coming back to the franchise will be good.

                                                              It's all subjective. Plenty dislike JJ Abrams style too, and Tarantino. At least when directors have a distinctive style you know what you are in for, and it's easy to avoid if you don't like it.

                                                              Smith is LOVING the news 🙂

                                                              Oh definitely, I love Tarantino, mostly like JJ (most recent Star Wars definitely excluded) and pretty much dislike all of Snyders superhero movies, which is disappointing because I want to see good Batman and Superman. I'm looking forward to the Robert Pattinson one although I think it's going to be another more 'adult' version however it looks interesting.

                                                              Did you like the Planet of the Apes movies?

                                                              Yep. Are they directed by that guy?

                                                              Reeves, who is doing the new Batman movie. So imagine the style will be different, but those movies were well made.

                                                              I wonder if Andy Serkis will have a role and if it will be mo cap?

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                                                                Kirwan @Nepia last edited by

                                                                @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                                @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                                @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                                @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                                @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                                @Kirwan said in DCEU:

                                                                @Nepia said in DCEU:

                                                                @raznomore said in DCEU:

                                                                Am I the only one here that thinks Synder is great visually but isn't a directors arsehole?
                                                                

                                                                I've regularly commented on my dislike of Snyder's directing - the last film of his I truly liked was 300. I didn't want to be the first to comment and incur @Kirwan's wraith in this thread. 😉

                                                                I haven't heard any of these rumours yet (I'm about two weeks behind on the Fatman Beyond podcast but I'm sure they'll discuss this). Keaton coming back to the franchise will be good.

                                                                It's all subjective. Plenty dislike JJ Abrams style too, and Tarantino. At least when directors have a distinctive style you know what you are in for, and it's easy to avoid if you don't like it.

                                                                Smith is LOVING the news 🙂

                                                                Oh definitely, I love Tarantino, mostly like JJ (most recent Star Wars definitely excluded) and pretty much dislike all of Snyders superhero movies, which is disappointing because I want to see good Batman and Superman. I'm looking forward to the Robert Pattinson one although I think it's going to be another more 'adult' version however it looks interesting.

                                                                Did you like the Planet of the Apes movies?

                                                                Yep. Are they directed by that guy?

                                                                Reeves, who is doing the new Batman movie. So imagine the style will be different, but those movies were well made.

                                                                I wonder if Andy Serkis will have a role and if it will be mo cap?

                                                                Ding, ding. He's Alfred.

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                                                                  Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                  surprised this didnt bump with the snyder cut, muct have had its own thread

                                                                  anyone watched the Suicide Squad? obviously want be going to the cinema but looks like its got some funny bits in it

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                                                                    Machpants @Kiwiwomble last edited by Machpants

                                                                    @kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                                                    surprised this didnt bump with the snyder cut, muct have had its own thread

                                                                    anyone watched the Suicide Squad? obviously want be going to the cinema but looks like its got some funny bits in it

                                                                    The Suicide Squad. Not seen the (small t) Suicide Squad, but the Drinker Recommends The (new) Suicide Squad for some dumb fun, so I will catch this when it hits online

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                                                                      Kiwiwomble @Machpants last edited by

                                                                      @machpants fair play re the grammar, its does get confusing with both having such similar names

                                                                      yeah, will probably wait until its free on a streaming service

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                                                                        Machpants @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                        @kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                                                        @machpants fair play re the grammar, its does get confusing with both having such similar names

                                                                        yeah, will probably wait until its free on a streaming service

                                                                        Yeah just a piss take on their stupid names, rather than at you. Bloody dumb

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                                                                          Kruse @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                          @kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                                                          surprised this didnt bump with the snyder cut, muct have had its own thread

                                                                          anyone watched the Suicide Squad? obviously want be going to the cinema but looks like its got some funny bits in it

                                                                          Yeah, just watched it.
                                                                          Stupid dumb fun.
                                                                          Lots of ridiculous violence, over-the-top blood, dumb jokes.
                                                                          I'm going to use the word "dumb" a lot in trying to explain this movie... but it's an affectionate "dumb".

                                                                          The only times it felt a bit forced, or just plain bad/boring, was when it tried to get a little serious. I can imagine that if there was no serious shit, it would get panned as "no character building, no story arcs, no emotional attachment to any characters"... but yeah, every time they tried for any of that, it was just... "yeah, fuck that, just get back to senseless comedic violence".
                                                                          Even the "this violence has real consequences, or at least, emotional consequences for the characters" - was just... nah, fuck off. I for once wanted the "serious shit, followed by throwaway gag"... and I never want that.

                                                                          Also - tit-watch: zero.

                                                                          Overall: 4 reasonable visual-violence-gags out of 5 yeah-that-shark-is-going-to-become-an-icon-for-stupid-people.

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                                                                              Kirwan @Tim last edited by

                                                                              @tim said in DCEU:

                                                                              That final upside down shot was utterly brilliant. The key to Batman is other characters being scared of him, perfect.

                                                                              Looks like they are delivering on the Batman as a detective as they promised. And crucially looks like a different take than normal.

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                                                                                Kiwiwomble @Tim last edited by

                                                                                @tim said in DCEU:

                                                                                Im in

                                                                                but if this isn't one of the best superhero films ever...then i really hope they just leave batman alone for a while

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                                                                                  Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                                  @kiwiwomble said in DCEU:

                                                                                  @tim said in DCEU:

                                                                                  Im in

                                                                                  but if this isn't one of the best superhero films ever...then i really hope they just leave batman alone for a while

                                                                                  Bad luck, two Batmen in new Flash movie (at least).

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                                                                                    Kiwiwomble @Kirwan last edited by

                                                                                    @kirwan really? is that confirmed? i know the flash movie is coming and actually looks good and dont have as much of a problem as they're using existing Batmen in it and actually trying to tie together some of the different batmen...batmans...batmanie, keaton's batman voice over for the teaser

                                                                                    is it two more pattinson batman movies?

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