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    • Yeetyaah
      Yeetyaah last edited by Duluth

      Thought it's about time to make a Waikato thread though they aren't as many Waikato supporters on here as other provinces.

      Just rolling the speculation of signings.

      Roe is playing club rugby in Hamilton so assuming he's gonna be in the squad.
      Patrick Osbourne as reported by @OleOleOle

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      • Bovidae
        Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

        I was thinking about a potential squad today. There are a few players from last season's squad who have left or retired, some haven't been seen in club rugby (based on the team lists), while who knows about the injury status of other players.

        Out from 2019 - Toby Smith, Taleni Seu, Antonio Shalfoon, Jack Stratton, Carlos Price, Raniera Takarangi, Sevu Reece, Tyler Campbell.
        Injury status unknown - Laghlan McWhannell, James Tucker, Solomon Alaimalo.
        Retired from rep rugby - Dwayne Sweeney?
        Unknown - Sekope Lopeti-Moli, Sam Cooper, Manawa Veitayaki, Api Naikatini, Jahrome Brown.

        I haven't seen any club rugby so there will be players I have overlooked.

        Props
        Ayden Johnstone
        Ollie Norris
        Rob Cobb
        Josh Iosefa-Scott
        Plus 2 others (George Dyer as TH, the 3rd LH prop could be Vincent Green but he is in his first year out of school so too early)
        Sefo Kautai has returned from Japan but is a TH. Stanley Paese is another young TH prop.

        Hookers
        Samisoni Taukei'aho
        Anton Milnes
        A.N. Other (Haereiti Hetet)

        Locks (This will depend on the availability of Tucker and McWhannell).
        Hamilton Burr
        Tim Bond
        James Thompson
        Adam Thomson
        Samipeni Finau

        Two converted 6s in this group. Shneil Singh could be in the mix but there is a real lack of experience.

        Loose forwards
        Luke Jacobson
        Mitch Jacobson
        Liam Messam
        Simon Parker
        Murray Iti
        Hugo Nankivell
        Jeriah Mua

        I'd like to see Quade Tapsell given an opportunity.

        Halfbacks (All 3 from last year have departed)
        Xavier Roe
        Quintony Ngatai
        Cortez-Lee Ratima

        1st 5s
        Fletcher Smith
        Rivez Reihana
        Coby Miln

        Midfield
        Anton Lienert-Brown
        Quinn Tupaea
        Bailyn Sullivan
        Louis Rogers
        Jordan Bunce

        Outside Backs
        Patrick Osborne
        Solomon Alaimalo
        Declan O'Donnell
        Brandon Mudzekenyedzi
        Newton Tudreu
        Valance Te Whare/Gideon Wrampling
        Damian McKenzie
        Matty Landsdown

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        • Yeetyaah
          Yeetyaah @Bovidae last edited by

          @Bovidae All 3 halfbacks? I'm sure Price still lives in Hamilton. Strange. There's a bunch of names in there that I've never heard.

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          • Bovidae
            Bovidae last edited by

            @Yeetyaah Someone said that Price is back in BOP. He isn't playing Waikato club rugby.

            After checking Dr. Google, other players selected for Waikato in the CCC earlier in the year were:

            Tom Martin (based in Wellington)
            Kieran Westlake (no.8)
            Mateo Taiseni (hooker)
            Vainikolo Halafihi (loose forward)
            Liam Coombes-Fabling (wing/fullback)
            Tepaea Cook-Savage (1st 5/fullback)
            Paula Mahe (outside back)

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            • Bovidae
              Bovidae @Yeetyaah last edited by

              @Yeetyaah said in Waikato 2020:

              There's a bunch of names in there that I've never heard.

              I am basing this on who was in the 2019 squad and have added a few players from previous NZ U20s and Waikato U19s.

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              • NateHill74
                NateHill74 @Bovidae last edited by

                @Bovidae Adam Thomson has signed for Waikato, another loosie option. (Still wish he stayed with Otago)

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                • Bovidae
                  Bovidae @NateHill74 last edited by Bovidae

                  @NateHill74 That's right. Forgot about him....for good reason.

                  Thomson will be used as a lock so our props better get used to no pushing.

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                  • OleOleOle
                    OleOleOle @Bovidae last edited by

                    @Bovidae Tudreu is with the Turbo. Gideon Wrampling could be worth a look...

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                    • Bovidae
                      Bovidae @OleOleOle last edited by

                      @OleOleOle

                      Tudreu was amongst the top try-scorers so must have only played the early part of the club season with Marist.

                      I've seen a little bit of Wrampling for the NZ Schools and St Paul's last year. He is a midfielder but is playing on the wing for HOB. He has size and speed.

                      Anyone else in with a chance?

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                      • OleOleOle
                        OleOleOle @Bovidae last edited by

                        @Bovidae yes, he left a couple of weeks ago...its a shame because he is a real threat with ball in hand. Te Whare is good. Not sure of many other signings at this point.....halfback is still a concern!

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                        • Yeetyaah
                          Yeetyaah last edited by

                          @Bovidae where did Tyler Campbell go?

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                          • Bovidae
                            Bovidae @Yeetyaah last edited by

                            @Yeetyaah I don't know, but he wasn't in the Waikato team that played in the CCC and I haven't seen his name listed in club rugby. I'm assuming he has left the province.

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                            • Yeetyaah
                              Yeetyaah @Bovidae last edited by

                              @Bovidae what's CCC?

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                              • Bovidae
                                Bovidae last edited by

                                Chiefs Country Centurion Cup.

                                The Centurion Cup will see Chiefs Country Provincial Unions Bay of Plenty, Counties Manukau, Taranaki and Waikato play a quadrangular competition in Hamilton, as curtain raisers to the Gallagher Chiefs home matches at FMG Stadium Waikato.
                                

                                Waikato beat BOP in the final before the Chiefs vs Brumbies game.

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                                • Stargazer
                                  Stargazer @Yeetyaah last edited by Stargazer

                                  @Yeetyaah said in Waikato 2020:

                                  @Bovidae where did Tyler Campbell go?

                                  He was in the China Lions squad for Rapid Rugby. So maybe he's moved to BOP?
                                  He's from the Gold Coast, isn't he? So another possibility is that he's gone back to Aussie?
                                  Or injured again.

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                                  • Bovidae
                                    Bovidae @Stargazer last edited by

                                    @Stargazer I did wonder if Campbell had returned to Aust. We'll see if he turns up in the BOP squad.

                                    @Yeetyaah

                                    Here is the Waikato team that played BOP. I included some players based on their selection in this team. Exclude Stevenson as some Chiefs players were released to play for each of the 4 provinces.

                                    1. Rob Cobb

                                    2. Anton Milnes

                                    3. George Dyer

                                    4. Hamilton Burr

                                    5. Samipeni Finau

                                    6. Tom Martin (Captain)

                                    7. Hugo Nankivell

                                    8. Kieran Westlake

                                    9. Xavier Roe

                                    10. Rivez Reihana

                                    11. Bailyn Sullivan

                                    12. Louis Rogers

                                    13. Brandon Maudzekenyedzi

                                    14. Shaun Stevenson

                                    15. Liam Coombes-Fabling

                                    16. Mateo Taiseni

                                    17. Ollie Norris

                                    18. Manawa Veitayaki

                                    19. Adam Thomson

                                    20. Vainikolo Halafihi

                                    21. Jeriah Mua

                                    22. Simon Parker

                                    23. Tepaea Cook Savage

                                    24. Paula Mahe

                                    25. Cortez Ratima

                                    26. Coby Miln

                                    Other players used in the Counties game were:
                                    Josh Balme (lock)
                                    Haereiti Hetet (prop) - has been playing hooker for Oto

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                                      Kiwidom @Stargazer last edited by

                                      @Stargazer. Has moved to Queensland. he's playing club rugby in Brisbane this year

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                                      • Stargazer
                                        Stargazer last edited by

                                        Looking at his latest instagram story, Fletcher Smith will play for Waikato.

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                                        • Bovidae
                                          Bovidae last edited by

                                          The big question will be if Smith has a SR contract beyond this year?

                                          He seems to be on the outer at the Canes so maybe the Chiefs are interested with 2 positions to fill at 1st 5.

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                                          • Yeetyaah
                                            Yeetyaah @Bovidae last edited by

                                            @Bovidae hasn't played the house down at the Canes but I'd be okay with him at the Chiefs tbh.

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                                            • Yeetyaah
                                              Yeetyaah last edited by

                                              24-year-old Jacobson set for sixth season with Waikato following Japanese stint

                                              24-year-old Jacobson set for sixth season with Waikato following Japanese stint

                                              Waikato Mooloo Mitch Jacobson bleeds red, yellow and red blood and has been a part of their Mitre 10 Cup squad since 2015.

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                                              • Bovidae
                                                Bovidae last edited by

                                                It's easy to forget that Mitch is still young. I hope he gets a regular shot in SR.

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                                                • Bovidae
                                                  Bovidae last edited by

                                                  Another player who could make the Waikato squad is Beaudein Waaka as he doesn't appear to be part of the Taranaki squad this season.

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                                                    ARHS @Bovidae last edited by

                                                    @Bovidae

                                                    Can he cover halfback??

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                                                      Bovidae @ARHS last edited by

                                                      @ARHS Waaka has been playing at fullback for Melville. I think he's more of an outside back in XVs.

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                                                        Stargazer @Bovidae last edited by

                                                        @Bovidae Yep, for Taranaki he used to play either fullback or first five-eighth.

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                                                          Bovidae @Stargazer last edited by

                                                          @Stargazer I do remember him playing on the wing too.

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                                                          • Yeetyaah
                                                            Yeetyaah last edited by

                                                            Asked the Waikato rugby page on Facebook when the squad is named, they responded with September 1st.

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                                                              mikey07 @Bovidae last edited by

                                                              @Bovidae I saw him playing for Poverty Bay I think it was jeez he’s packed the beef on

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                                                                Bovidae last edited by

                                                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/300091757/solomon-alaimalo-set-to-miss-mitre-10-cup-after-shoulder-surgery-waikato-sign-patrick-osborne

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                                                                • Bovidae
                                                                  Bovidae last edited by

                                                                  Waikato Signs Patrick Osborne and Adam Thomson for the 2020 Mitre 10 Cup

                                                                  Waikato Signs Patrick Osborne and Adam Thomson for the 2020 Mitre 10 Cup

                                                                  Waikato Rugby is pleased to announce the signing of international duo of Patrick Osborne and Adam Thomson for the...

                                                                  Waikato Rugby is pleased to announce the signing of international duo of Patrick Osborne and Adam Thomson for the upcoming Mitre 10 Cup season.
                                                                  

                                                                  Not news but this was written at the bottom of the article.

                                                                  Waikato will announce the entire 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad after the launch next Tuesday morning.
                                                                  

                                                                  So maybe not today?

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                                                                  • Yeetyaah
                                                                    Yeetyaah @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                    @Bovidae Weird, they said it'd be today when they replied to my comment on Facebook.

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                                                                    • Bovidae
                                                                      Bovidae last edited by

                                                                      Jahrome Brown could be in the Waikato squad again, after missing the entire season last year after breaking his leg in a preseason game.

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                                                                      • Yeetyaah
                                                                        Yeetyaah @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                        @Bovidae is he not contracted to the Brumbies anymore?

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                                                                          Bovidae @Yeetyaah last edited by

                                                                          @Yeetyaah I don't know, but Brown hasn't played for the Brumbies in SR AU has he? Someone connected with the Melville club told me he is back.

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                                                                          • Bovidae
                                                                            Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

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                                                                            Season ending injuries to players Solomon Alaimalo, Sam Cooper, Laghlan McWhannell and James Tucker, means they will play no part in this year’s campaign.

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                                                                            • Bovidae
                                                                              Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

                                                                              By position:

                                                                              Props
                                                                              Ollie Norris (10) Hautapu - LH
                                                                              Rob Cobb (5) Hamilton Old Boys - LH/TH
                                                                              George Dyer ( ) Fraser Tech - TH
                                                                              Josh Iosefa-Scott (30) Melville - TH
                                                                              Ayden Johnstone (23) Hautapu - LH
                                                                              Sosefo Kautai (31) Hamilton Marist - TH

                                                                              Hookers
                                                                              Samisoni Taukei’aho (33) Fraser Tech
                                                                              Sekope Lopeti-Moli (13) Hautapu
                                                                              Steven Misa (11) Hamilton Marist

                                                                              Locks
                                                                              Hamilton Burr (7) Hautapu - also 6
                                                                              Samipeni Finau (5) Hamilton Old Boys - also 6
                                                                              James Thompson (2) Hautapu
                                                                              Adam Thomson ( ) Morrrinsville Sports - also 6

                                                                              Loose forwards
                                                                              Luke Jacobson (11) Hautapu - 6/8 (captain)
                                                                              Mitch Jacobson (46) Hautapu - 6/7
                                                                              Liam Messam (85) Raglan - 6/8
                                                                              Simon Parker (6) Hautapu - 6/8

                                                                              Halfbacks
                                                                              Xavier Roe ( ) Hamilton Old Boys
                                                                              Cortez Ratima ( ) Otorohanga

                                                                              Inside backs
                                                                              Fletcher Smith (22) University
                                                                              Rivez Reihana (9) Melville
                                                                              Liam Coombes-Fabling ( ) Fraser Tech - also fullback
                                                                              Matty Lansdown (27) Fraser Tech - also fullback

                                                                              Midfield
                                                                              Anton Lienert-Brown (19) University
                                                                              Quinn Tupaea (21) Hamilton Old Boys
                                                                              Louis Rogers (6) University
                                                                              Bailyn Sullivan (26) Hamilton Marist - also wing

                                                                              Outside backs
                                                                              Damian McKenzie (24) University
                                                                              Patrick Osborne ( ) Fraser Tech
                                                                              Valynce Te Whare (3) Fraser Tech
                                                                              Gideon Wrampling ( ) Hamilton Old Boys

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                                                                              • Yeetyaah
                                                                                Yeetyaah last edited by

                                                                                Only 2 halfbacks? Dunno about this squad, bunch of young fellas with a few oldies. Good development but hard to see them winning a whole lot.

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                                                                                • Bovidae
                                                                                  Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

                                                                                  @Yeetyaah Yep, only 2 halfbacks and no other no.7 like Nankivell or Mua to backup M Jacobson.

                                                                                  31 players seems to be a smaller squad than most other provinces.

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                                                                                  • OleOleOle
                                                                                    OleOleOle @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                                    @Bovidae no specialist locks...halfback depth is non existant and ALB and DMac will only play a game or two. I can see this team struggling this year.

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