Highlanders 2021
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Huge blow if Fakatava is gone, swollen knee is never a good sign.
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> > Umaga-Jensen will miss the remainder of the season due to a broken arm in what is the latest blow for a young player that has shown glimpses of his vast potential but has been riddled with injury in recent seasons.Bugger. He was one player I wanted to watch
Also this. Hopefully he can sort this out.
Off-season recruit Solomon Alaimalo, meanwhile, remains unavailable for selection. “He's dealing with some personal issues, he's outside of the team at the moment,” Dermody said. -
That really sucks about TUJ.
He was quite brilliant vs Crusaders.
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@kiwimurph poor kid, such a promising talent but seems to be the next glass man. Hopefully makes a swift recovery.
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damn it
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@kiwiwomble poor bugger. Probably puts a question mark on him making the AB's as well, the way he's been playing I would have thought he'd have been called up this year.
Edit: of course he's not gonna make the AB's as ACL injuries are 9 months minimum.
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@kiwiwomble buggar alright, for Highlanders (who will now probably use Smith more than they would have) but esp for him as he must surely have been on the AB radar
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Otago halfback James Arscott has been bought in as a replacement for Fakatava. The injury list has grown over the last few weeks for the Highlanders with the promising Thomas Umaga-Jensen and Freedom Vahaakolo both ruled out for the season. They have been replaced permanently in the squad by Otago midfielder Josh Timu and Southland utility back Josh Moorby. -
Damn that sucks, was looking forward to seeing get some international time.
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@tim said in Highlanders 2021:
Damn that sucks, was looking forward to seeing get some international time.
Step up Sam Nock.
Oh wait, he can't get a game this year. Damn.
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@kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2021:
damn it
Real shame because Folau Fakatava was playing great footy and looking every inch an All Black.
He's young so hopefully he'll bounce back after surgery.
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Christ on a bike. Is this our trade off with the devil for winning games?
Ahh well, come on Roe every post a winner now eh.
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@kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2021:
damn it
Not the update anyone wanted to see. Easily in the top two halfbacks in the country.
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@nepia Hopefully he will be back in time for the NPC. Maybe he could visit the healer in Fiji that took care of Waisake Naholo, got him back on the field in pretty good time.
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@higgins said in Highlanders 2021:
@nepia Hopefully he will be back in time for the NPC.
No one is back from an ACL that quickly. 9 to 12 months, I think.
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@bobily2 its a tear rather than rupture, my rupture was given 12 months for full recovery so would have thought a tear was faster?
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@kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2021:
@bobily2 its a tear rather than rupture, my rupture was given 12 months for full recovery so would have thought a tear was faster?
Yea, I didn't make that distinction when reading it. From what I've heard Handre Pollard is looking at over 6/7 months overall recovery time for his tear that occurred late-ish last year. I think Fakatava would likely be out of the NPC then, either way.
I think the stuff article suggested he'd be out for 9 months to a year, but they might not have made the distinction either
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Dunno why, as medical treatment has improved, but I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Was playing really well at 9 imo. Gutted and I’m not even a highlanders fan.
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@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
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good news
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@akan004 fuuuck Landers can't catch a break this season with injuries. Always one team tho.
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@akan004 And that's not counting Nehe Milner-Skudder and Solomon Alaimalo, and Koroi being with the AB7s.
(Renton has been a good replacement they've brought in though, and they have Makene and Fomai as decent additions to the squad, too.)
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@tim good to hear, think i would rather he got rest and there was even a chance he could train with the AB's should he be wanted
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@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
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@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound? -
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
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@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
do you ever get sick of being wrong? or is just like some sort of weird comfort blanket by now?
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I wasn't quick enough.
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@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
Nah McCaw IMO Best 7
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@chris said in Highlanders 2021:
@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
Nah McCaw IMO Best 7
It's a good problem to have, arguing between two of the greats. McCaw in the professional era, Jones in the amateur. Sorted.
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@kirwan said in Highlanders 2021:
@chris said in Highlanders 2021:
@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
Nah McCaw IMO Best 7
It's a good problem to have, arguing between two of the greats. McCaw in the professional era, Jones in the amateur. Sorted.
bloody peacemakers. You're normally more like this kind of peacemaker
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@mariner4life said in Highlanders 2021:
@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
do you ever get sick of being wrong? or is just like some sort of weird comfort blanket by now?
Meh, I'm not a slave to the recency bias like you lot.
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@kirwan said in Highlanders 2021:
@chris said in Highlanders 2021:
@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
Nah McCaw IMO Best 7
It's a good problem to have, arguing between two of the greats. McCaw in the professional era, Jones in the amateur. Sorted.
I think you're pretty much right.
Different eras.
MJ would need to pack on nearly 10kgs to play 7 these days - and 10 cm to play 6.
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@chris-b said in Highlanders 2021:
@kirwan said in Highlanders 2021:
@chris said in Highlanders 2021:
@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
Nah McCaw IMO Best 7
It's a good problem to have, arguing between two of the greats. McCaw in the professional era, Jones in the amateur. Sorted.
I think you're pretty much right.
Different eras.
MJ would need to pack on nearly 10kgs to play 7 these days - and 10 cm to play 6.
Tall enough for lock at the Canes though, but probably too dynamic.
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@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@mariner4life said in Highlanders 2021:
@nepia said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@nostrildamus said in Highlanders 2021:
@snowy said in Highlanders 2021:
@billy-tell said in Highlanders 2021:
I remain scarred by Michael jones vs Argentina. Each time there is a knee injury I think « career in jeopardy ». Jones came back but he was never as good.
Didn't he play 6 mostly after that? Had a bit of a different role and wasn't quite as visible? Or has my memory failed me - again...
It is shit news about Fakatava. It looks like most of us thought he was going to be in Black this year. Just have to hope it isn't as bad as we fear.
Yes but Jones speed factor set him apart in that era until the injury. Not a bad tackler though. He also played 8 for Auckland if I recall correctly.
Yeah think I saw him at 8. The move to six was due to the loss of speed you mentioned, and in a very rare Fern occurrence we could both / all be right.
He was better as a seven until his knee was fucked, slowed down a bit, played six. Was still very good. How does that sound?Best 7 we’ve ever had and then 2nd best 6 of the past 30 years.
In this bloke’s opinion anyway.
do you ever get sick of being wrong? or is just like some sort of weird comfort blanket by now?
Meh, I'm not a slave to the recency bias like you lot.
Not only is Richie better, but I would take George Smith over him at 7 as well
And as a 6 he was really no better than Liam Messam. Still bloody good, but a level down.
But it's cool, we all fanboi hard for some players
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@mariner4life genuine question - did you actually see him play live in his prime?
