Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau
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My starter
My XV (after a think)
Ketels
Dalton
Spiers (feels rough to leave out Skinner but this is a combo)Coe
TuoroHabraken
Marsh
BrainLee
Nicky AllenPat Walsh
RobertsonLomu
VidiriTNW
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Tony Marsh was better than Alatini.
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@Tim said in Your Ultimate NPC Team:
Tony Marsh was better than Alatini.
Marsh never really shone for CM like he did for France IMO. He developed a lot after leaving.
Another contender in the midfield is Laulala (Casey).
I have gone for a couple of legends.Happy to alter my team based on feedback from other CM posters. The rest of you can concentrate on your own squads
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@Crucial said in Your Ultimate NPC Team:
Paul Tuoro in place of Cooksley.
My first reaction.
I always liked Kururangi. But those two wingers were kinda handy.
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@booboo said in Your Ultimate NPC Team:
@Crucial said in Your Ultimate NPC Team:
Paul Tuoro in place of Cooksley.
My first reaction.
I always liked Kururangi. But those two wingers were kinda handy.
Could have had Sivivatu as well
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@Crucial Thought Marsh was really good in 97 and 98, and should've made the ABs in 1998.
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@Tim said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial Thought Marsh was really good in 97 and 98, and should've made the ABs in 1998.
@Tim said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial Thought Marsh was really good in 97 and 98, and should've made the ABs in 1998.
I can buy that argument.
Still doesn't beat out Bruce Robertson though.Edit: actually he played at 12 for CM
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1 Rod Ketels
2 Andy Dalton
3 John Spiers
4 Jim Coe
5 Paul Tuoro
6 Koula Tukino
7 Glen Marsh
8 Errol Brain
9 Michael Scott
10 Danny Love
11 Jonah Lomu
12 Bundee Aki
13 Bruce Robertson
14 Joeli Vidiri
15 Tim Nanai WilliamsB team
1 Sean Bagshaw
2 Andrew Roose
3 Lee Lidgard
4 Mark Cooksley
5 Api Naevo
6 Fritz Lee
7 Habraken
8 Alan Dawson
9 Danny Lee
10 Blair Feeney
11 Lelia Masaga
12 Tony Marsh
13 George Leaupepe
14 Tony Pulu
15 Loki CrichtonMy teams are based from the era when they were regular semifinalists in the 90's, the Ranfurly Shield and Championship winning teams and the legends from before I can remember.
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Chucking in a team of best players from Counties who moved on to other provinces, some from out of school, some lured away later.
1 Karl Tuinukuafe (Wesley)
2 Hame Faiva (Wesley)
3 John Afoa (Counties U16)
4 Mark Cooksley (lured away by Waikato)
5 Kristian Ormsby (best years in Wellington)
6 Jerome Kaino ( Counties U16)
7 Mike Brewer (Pukekohe High School)
8 Kieran Read (Rosehill College)
9 Finlay Christie ( Pukekohe raised)
10 Stephen Donald (Wesley, Waiuku, best years at Waikato)
11 Joe Rokocoko ( Counties Under 16)
12 Seilala Mapusua (Wesley)
13 Malakai Fekitoa (Wesley)
14 Sitiveni Sivivatu ( Best years at Waikato)
15 Charle Piutau ( Wesley) -
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@mikedogz
I like your teams. Not so sure about your 10s. We might yet get to lay claim to Beaver if Waikato don't.I am embarrassed to have left out the Irish centre.
Nicky Allen might have only played 4 games for CM but he also only played 10 for Auckland as well.
His career was so short I barely remember it, but he proved himself very quickly. Some say he would have been a great and writers add him in their top AB lists regularly. Hard to tell whether his sad early death increased his reputation. -
No Hare Makiri?
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@shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
No Hare Makiri?
Good call.
A different player to Marsh but both good. -
I thought he was an 8?
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@shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
I thought he was an 8?
Played 7 as an international for Tonga. Doesn't get past Brain as an 8.
Brain was a great.
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Just throwing his name out there
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@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
I thought he was an 8?
Played 7 as an international for Tonga. Doesn't get past Brain as an 8.
Brain was a great.
Japan?
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@Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
I thought he was an 8?
Played 7 as an international for Tonga. Doesn't get past Brain as an 8.
Brain was a great.
Japan?
Yeah, one of those small pacific countries anyway.
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Disgraceful lack of respect for Lindsay Raki.
Even if he didn't have much respect for pokie machine funds staying in the correct accounts...
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@Smudge said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
Disgraceful lack of respect for Lindsay Raki.
Even if he didn't have much respect for pokie machine funds staying in the correct accounts...
No lack of respect at all. Was a good servant to the union for many a season. For a long time was the only rep from my school as well.
Never really in the frame for higher honours though.
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@Crucial How do you guys rate Bob Lendrum (a really long servant for Counties) and GK Taylor who played well inside Bruce Robertson if my memory serves me right, also Brett Codlin at fullback?
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How is Pita Alatini not playing 12?
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@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
How is Pita Alatini not playing 12?
Because no one wants him there over Marsh or Aki?
Not a lot in it really except selecting a midfield likely to get the ball to Jonah -
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
How is Pita Alatini not playing 12?
Because no one wants him there over Marsh or Aki?
Not a lot in it really except selecting a midfield likely to get the ball to Jonahhe's better then both of those players.
I find the general attitude to Alatini on here a bit strange. Around the turn of the century he was the absolute fucking man.
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@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
How is Pita Alatini not playing 12?
Because no one wants him there over Marsh or Aki?
Not a lot in it really except selecting a midfield likely to get the ball to Jonahhe's better then both of those players.
I find the general attitude to Alatini on here a bit strange. Around the turn of the century he was the absolute fucking man.
Welly can have him then
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@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
How is Pita Alatini not playing 12?
Because no one wants him there over Marsh or Aki?
Not a lot in it really except selecting a midfield likely to get the ball to Jonahhe's better then both of those players.
I find the general attitude to Alatini on here a bit strange. Around the turn of the century he was the absolute fucking man.
Welly can have him then
against your own rules
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@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
How is Pita Alatini not playing 12?
Because no one wants him there over Marsh or Aki?
Not a lot in it really except selecting a midfield likely to get the ball to Jonahhe's better then both of those players.
I find the general attitude to Alatini on here a bit strange. Around the turn of the century he was the absolute fucking man.
Welly can have him then
against your own rules
No. If a player played for a union they can select him. If two teams select the same player he goes to the one he first repped
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@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
How is Pita Alatini not playing 12?
Because no one wants him there over Marsh or Aki?
Not a lot in it really except selecting a midfield likely to get the ball to Jonahhe's better then both of those players.
I find the general attitude to Alatini on here a bit strange. Around the turn of the century he was the absolute fucking man.
Welly can have him then
against your own rules
No. If a player played for a union they can select him. If two teams select the same player he goes to the one he first repped
your funeral
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@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
How is Pita Alatini not playing 12?
Because no one wants him there over Marsh or Aki?
Not a lot in it really except selecting a midfield likely to get the ball to Jonahhe's better then both of those players.
I find the general attitude to Alatini on here a bit strange. Around the turn of the century he was the absolute fucking man.
Welly can have him then
against your own rules
No. If a player played for a union they can select him. If two teams select the same player he goes to the one he first repped
your funeral
So between Beaver at 10 and Robertson at 13 you’d select Alatini?
Also his best work was as a stepper rather than a distributor. I want the ball going to Jonah and Joeli as much as possible. -
Welly can have him then
We don’t need him but thanks
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I gave Alatini to Southland.
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@Crucial What has Alan Dawson done to piss you guys off so much to see him not make the team?
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@Higgins said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial What has Alan Dawson done to piss you guys off so much to see him not make the team?
Nothing. Alltime CM legend . Sadly just pipped in the 8 jersey by Brain.
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@Crucial That was where my question was being aimed at. Dawson should have been a certainty ahead of Tukino and anyone else you might have fronted with.
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@Higgins said in Ultimate NPC: - Counties-Manukau:
@Crucial That was where my question was being aimed at. Dawson should have been a certainty ahead of Tukino and anyone else you might have fronted with.
From memory he played some 6 in his later years (probably among the last 50 of his 200 games) but certainly wasn't at his peak then and was a much better 8.
I had a check and it looks like he was squeezed into 6 for Baabaas and North Island when he was playing 8 so you may be correct about his versatility.
