Hurricanes 2021
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Re-signed: Fraser Armstrong (2021)
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Who is it?
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@Crucial Fraser Armstrong, for 2021 only.
Media release: https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-nzr-re-sign-fraser-armstrong-for-2021/
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@Stargazer Riccitelli off?
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@Tim What makes you think that? Riccitelli is signed through to 2021.
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@Stargazer Was wondering why they were signing him if they already had three hookers? (Aumua, Coles, Riccitelli/Armstrong)
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@Tim Armstrong is a prop.
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@Stargazer Ah, sorry!
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Glad Fraser Armstrong's re-signed for a bit. Decent player.
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James Blackwell signed until the end of 2023
Vaea Fifita signed until the end of 2021 -
@Canes4life gutted
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Who the hell thought it was a good idea to offer Blackwell a 3 year deal.
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@mikey07 Yeah, the stupidity level in this one is huge. If you don't have a better option at this moment, sign him for one year. Who knows what talent comes through in the years after. I think there are a few talented youngsters coming through the ranks in all three provinces.
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@Stargazer I honestly don’t understand how they can’t see what 99% of everyone else can ok he is a work house at M10 Cup level but super rugby is another step up.
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@mikey07 And the extra weird thing is: Blackwell was already signed for 2021! They gave him two more years while there was no rush at all.
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@mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:
Who the hell thought it was a good idea to offer Blackwell a 3 year deal.
Someone hoping he defies medical history and grows taller at 25 years of age ?
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@mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:
Who the hell thought it was a good idea to offer Blackwell a 3 year deal.
Hes barely Ok at NPC level. Any coach who signs a player like Blackwell for 3 years and then even worse starts him week after week will never win the title. Its a make up the numbers coach
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@Stargazer Plumtree and Delany alone are already better than Blackwell.
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Having just watched Wellington v Otago, it's clear that Julian Savea shouldn't get a SR contract, but I'm really afraid he'll get one, just because he's an ex-Cane, ex-AB, who may attract some crowd. I'd much rather see them replace Ben Lam with Lolagi Visinia, if they're looking for a power winger. I don't think the Canes need a midfielder, but I'm sure there would be better midfielders they could sign, too.
Really, I'll be banging my head against a brick wall if someone like Jonah Lowe, who has been very good thus far for the Magpies, doesn't get re-signed (I don't have any idea about that), and Jules does. But the Hurricanes selectors aren't really that good ...
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@Stargazer Julian Savea is crap, if he gets a Canes contract I’ve lost all faith in whoever the player selectors are.
Jonah Lowe isn’t much chop either from what I’ve seen. The fact you seem to bring him into almost every conversation is pretty funny. He tries hard but doesn’t stand out.
I’d rather the Canes actually look outside the 3 provinces for once and go for someone like McKay or Mataele. They are both better than Lowe, Visinia and the aging Savea.
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Also Rayasi looks odds on to grab Lam’s spot, unless he’s playing for the Sevens.
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@Canes4life You haven't been watching the Magpies games well. Lowe was outstanding in the first few rounds, both offensively and defensively, all with a great workrate. He helped set up several tries (actually surprising me by showing a great leg drive I didn't know he had) and prevented some from the opposition.
I rate Mataele, but he has become a lot slower (probably because he's become a lot bigger) and has butchered quite a few opportunities (lots of handling errors). McKay didn't stand out for the Highlanders, apart from preventing that almost certain Bryn Hall try. Good workrate for Canterbury; maybe good for Kobus van Wyk's spot as third choice. Visinia is a try-scoring power winger; McKay can only dream of being one.
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@Stargazer I have actually and he hasn’t been spectacular. He’s been solid but hasn’t shouted select me from what I’ve seen. Stacey Ili is the guy that’s been on fire for Hawkes Bay, not Lowe.
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Has anyone heard anything about IWL resigning with the Canes for next year?
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@Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:
@Stargazer I have actually and he hasn’t been spectacular. He’s been solid but hasn’t shouted select me from what I’ve seen. Stacey Ili is the guy that’s been on fire for Hawkes Bay, not Lowe.
WTF are you on about. Lowe has been the best Magpies back full stop this year. Ili, who I’m a fan of (more so than @Stargazer) hasn’t reached his good form of last year yet.
You’re taking the piss.
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@Nepia And the stats back that up, too.
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@Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:
@Stargazer Julian Savea is crap, if he gets a Canes contract I’ve lost all faith in whoever the player selectors are.
Jonah Lowe isn’t much chop either from what I’ve seen. The fact you seem to bring him into almost every conversation is pretty funny. He tries hard but doesn’t stand out.
I’d rather the Canes actually look outside the 3 provinces for once and go for someone like McKay or Mataele. They are both better than Lowe, Visinia and the aging Savea.
Mataele has another year on his Crusaders contract
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Jone Macilai does not have a team?
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@Nepia Lowe can go to the Highlanders. He’s never stood out to me, especially against good sides. There are certainly better players out there.
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@Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:
@Nepia Lowe can go to the Highlanders. He’s never stood out to me, especially against good sides. There are certainly better players out there.
That’s irrelevant to you making up bullshit about how well he’s playing this year.
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@Nepia I’m not making up bullshit though, in my eyes Ili has been the danger man for Hawkes Bay and Lowe has been nothing more than solid. Does care anyway, Lowe will never be anymore than a squad filler.
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@mikey07 he too is better than Lowe.
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I posted this in the Wellington v Otago thread but I thought it had relevance here:
I was just scrolling through the stats for this game it’s amazing how much Fifita’s game has gone to mud so he made 8 tackles all game yet fell off 4, had 25 metres gained off 9 runs, I think we made a mistake resigning him for the Canes.
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@Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:
@Nepia I’m not making up bullshit though, in my eyes Ili has been the danger man for Hawkes Bay and Lowe has been nothing more than solid. Does care anyway, Lowe will never be anymore than a squad filler.
FFS dude, Ili hasn't been close to Lowe's form this year.
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@Nepia Yeah, Ili had some nice breaks in the Counties game, but guess who drew in the defenders to create the space for Ili? Very often that was Lowe. He did the same for players like Mikaele-Tu'u (IIRC against Otago?). In the Canterbury game, Ili was very easily contained and it was Lowe himself making the breaks.
Saying Macilai is better than Lowe is just trolling.
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@Nepia oh yeah because Lowe is so amazing. Is he related to one of you blokes or something? seriously the amount of times you Hb blokes rave about someone so limited in ability really is something to behold. I suppose he’s really good by Hawkes Bay standards.
Also go back and watch those first few HB games of the year. Ili was the guy breaking the line and making Lowe look good, not the other way round.
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@Canes4life Mate, you're making a fool of yourself haha.
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@Stargazer your continuous fluffing of Lowe is embarrassing. Just face it, he’s never going to be more than a squad filler at Super level.
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@Canes4life Haha
