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  • @Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:

    how can you possibly think that? he was very active in condemning the BLM protests, the very definition of free speech, hes also waged a war against "main stream media"...once again, whether you agree with what theyre saying or not it is a voice of a decent percent of the population
    hes the first president to not attend a white house correspondents association dinner since 1981...and that was because Reagan was recuperating after being shot!...and he still called in and made a joke about being shot! Trump is the definition of freedom of speach as long as its what he agrees with

    There is a difference between speaking out. As Trump does. And making speech a criminal offense. As the Nanny Staters do. Trump has said he wants free speech and let the people work it out. I agree with this. Have civil action if needed not get the cops involved except in a few circumstances.

    And I think that Trump criticized the rioting not protesting.

    And he has criticized the fake news media. But hasn't tried to close them down. Or throw them in prison. This is what free speech is all about. Two viewpoints and then let the people decide without involving the cops (although the newspapers might need some more rules to punish them for just making stuff up. Or clearly distorting the truth). Or being fired from work.

    white house correspondents association dinner since 1981
    

    So what



  • @Winger he has removed the white house credentials or banned more reporters than any other president that combined with things like the dinner show his poor relationship with a lot of the press

    him deeming that tweets are all thats really needed limits freedom of speech to one way, media outlets he deems fake are not given the chance to ask questions of him that the people they represent want asked, he removes the accountability



  • @Winger said in US Politics:

    @JC said in US Politics:

    He saves US jobs, he screws yours. He improves the US economy, it’s at the expense of yours.

    Trump is mainly focused on stopping jobs moving to (almost) slave labor countries. For example the Mexico CANada trade agreement requires a high proportion of parts to be supplied from countries that pay their workers a decent wage or salary. To stop what Canada was doing. Importing parts from low wage countries and just assembling them. This can't happen now. And also forcing Mexico to pay their workers more if they want to export to the US

    Surely this approach will help NZ workers. If this type of agreement becomes the standard for Western countries. NZ workers will not be competing with low wages and poor environmental and other work standards.

    Only if NZ decides not to compete with non-Western countries or the Western world goes in for some kind of coordinated autarky policy. Otherwise workers and the economy just become uncompetitive.

    The EU has tried this sort of thing for decades and is increasingly finding itself up economic shit-creek (its share of world trade is 1/3 of what it was 20 years ago) and now has emerging economies blocking EU goods & services in retaliation against its "worker protection" trade policies.

    I'll give you that Trump sees the problem - restrictive trade practices which hurt the US economy - and takes action. But that action has a high chance of restricting trade and consumer choice and backfiring in the medium term.



  • @Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:

    @Winger he has removed the white house credentials or banned more reporters than any other president that combined

    Are you sure?

    Jim Acosta was (justifiable) banned (for poor behavior) but the courts reversed this banning and Trump just said fair enough. He can return. And hes still attending. And Trump points to him to ask his question(s). He is the only one that I have read about that's been banned. even though the reporters behavior and questions can be quiet poor at times



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  • Fucking morons questioning oligarchs, that'll go well.

    Scott Galloway posted a bunch of good questions on his blog , I wonder if they asked any of them?

    E.g., for Amazon about tax and the fact that they hire more lobbyists than there are US Senators:

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  • @Tim said in US Politics:

    I'm sure if there was lots of money in hydroxychloroquine and Trump hadn't recommended it then facebook (Or twitter) would not remove this post & video

    And I assume this is the video in question. A group of actual doctors talking about treating Covid19 patients

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/zr04GsUupOwk/



  • And maybe this will help to stop online censorship

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/huge-trump-white-house-implements-executive-order-online-censorship-prevents-tech-giants-altering-users-free-speech-demands-transparency-moderation-practices/

    HUGE! Trump White House Implements Executive Order on Online Censorship: Prevents Tech Giants from Altering Users’ Free Speech – Demands Transparency of Moderation Practices



  • @gt12 said in US Politics:

    Fucking morons questioning oligarchs, that'll go well.

    Scott Galloway posted a bunch of good questions on his blog , I wonder if they asked any of them?

    E.g., for Amazon about tax and the fact that they hire more lobbyists than there are US Senators:

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    With their current system the swamp will never drain



  • Biden's notes were photographed a few days ago and suggested Kamala Harris will be the pick. I think the DNC are overestimating her likability. She makes Hillary look warm.

    The VP pick that would have stomped Trump / Pence would have been Tulsi Gabbard - but she is hated by the DNC machine.



  • What a headline:

    TRUMP: DELAY ELECTION UNTIL PEOPLE CAN SAFELY VOTE

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    Sent markets into a bit of mini-tailspin.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-13/can-trump-postpone-2020-election-here-s-what-constitution-says?sref=D5YAN1Xp

    All sort of conspiracy theories about the federal troops in Portland being a "dry run" for full on martial law around election time.



  • @TeWaio said in US Politics:

    What a headline:

    TRUMP: DELAY ELECTION UNTIL PEOPLE CAN SAFELY VOTE

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    Sent markets into a bit of mini-tailspin.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-13/can-trump-postpone-2020-election-here-s-what-constitution-says?sref=D5YAN1Xp

    All sort of conspiracy theories about the federal troops in Portland being a "dry run" for full on martial law around election time.

    Not enough troops countrywide



  • This is becoming a weird election. I just can't see the Democrats even getting close unless they cheat.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/the-democrats-embarrass-themselves-again.php

    We are approaching a very weird election in which one of our major parties is taking a stand in favor of rioting, looting, arson, destruction of federal property, and violent attacks on law enforcement. The Democrats seem to think that this is a winning formula. If it is, our republic is doomed. While we may be in deep trouble, I don’t think we are that far gone yet.

    I agree with this last bit. But who knows



  • @Winger said in US Politics:

    This is becoming a weird election. I just can't see the Democrats even getting close unless they cheat.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/the-democrats-embarrass-themselves-again.php

    We are approaching a very weird election in which one of our major parties is taking a stand in favor of rioting, looting, arson, destruction of federal property, and violent attacks on law enforcement. The Democrats seem to think that this is a winning formula. If it is, our republic is doomed. While we may be in deep trouble, I don’t think we are that far gone yet.

    I agree with this last bit. But who knows

    Of course it's going to be close. You are a prime example of why, people have picked Team A or Team B and no matter what their team does they will vote for it.

    Somewhere on cyberspace there is a poster called Fullback that posting as fervently as you are about Biden/Hillary/Bernie.



  • @Kirwan said in US Politics:

    @Winger said in US Politics:

    This is becoming a weird election. I just can't see the Democrats even getting close unless they cheat.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/the-democrats-embarrass-themselves-again.php

    We are approaching a very weird election in which one of our major parties is taking a stand in favor of rioting, looting, arson, destruction of federal property, and violent attacks on law enforcement. The Democrats seem to think that this is a winning formula. If it is, our republic is doomed. While we may be in deep trouble, I don’t think we are that far gone yet.

    I agree with this last bit. But who knows

    Somewhere on cyberspace there is a poster called Fullback that posting as fervently as you are about Biden/Hillary/Bernie.

    I hope you've blocked his IP address



  • @Kirwan said in US Politics:

    @Winger said in US Politics:

    This is becoming a weird election. I just can't see the Democrats even getting close unless they cheat.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/the-democrats-embarrass-themselves-again.php

    We are approaching a very weird election in which one of our major parties is taking a stand in favor of rioting, looting, arson, destruction of federal property, and violent attacks on law enforcement. The Democrats seem to think that this is a winning formula. If it is, our republic is doomed. While we may be in deep trouble, I don’t think we are that far gone yet.

    I agree with this last bit. But who knows

    Of course it's going to be close. You are a prime example of why, people have picked Team A or Team B and no matter what their team does they will vote for it.

    Somewhere on cyberspace there is a poster called Fullback that posting as fervently as you are about Biden/Hillary/Bernie.

    It would be great if they could all meet for a cage match or something



  • @canefan said in US Politics:

    @Kirwan said in US Politics:

    @Winger said in US Politics:

    This is becoming a weird election. I just can't see the Democrats even getting close unless they cheat.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/the-democrats-embarrass-themselves-again.php

    We are approaching a very weird election in which one of our major parties is taking a stand in favor of rioting, looting, arson, destruction of federal property, and violent attacks on law enforcement. The Democrats seem to think that this is a winning formula. If it is, our republic is doomed. While we may be in deep trouble, I don’t think we are that far gone yet.

    I agree with this last bit. But who knows

    Of course it's going to be close. You are a prime example of why, people have picked Team A or Team B and no matter what their team does they will vote for it.

    Somewhere on cyberspace there is a poster called Fullback that posting as fervently as you are about Biden/Hillary/Bernie.

    It would be great if they could all meet for a cage match or something

    I’ll chip in for them to have a chainsaw fight.



  • @TeWaio said in US Politics:

    What a headline:

    TRUMP: DELAY ELECTION UNTIL PEOPLE CAN SAFELY VOTE

    199f998d-ceb6-4575-ba6d-b39df7bc2f94-image.png

    Sent markets into a bit of mini-tailspin.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-13/can-trump-postpone-2020-election-here-s-what-constitution-says?sref=D5YAN1Xp

    All sort of conspiracy theories about the federal troops in Portland being a "dry run" for full on martial law around election time.

    Classic Trump. Says something outrageous on Twitter and his opponents obligingly howl at the moon.

    Must be bad economic figures due to be announced that day or something.



  • Biden's strategy of hiding away is working quite well.

    I think Trump will try to force Biden to come out and start campaigning.
    Trump should start going on the liberal networks and attacking him.
    This will force Biden to respond.

    I still think Trump is in trouble unless he starts showing a bit more humility and focus (not a lot, but a little). Copying the meaningless platitudes of Biden would be a good start. Control the wild tweets and tie Joe Biden to the radical left - relentlessly.



  • I lolled

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  • @Frank said in US Politics:

    Biden's strategy of hiding away is working quite well.

    I think Trump will try to force Biden to come out and start campaigning.
    Trump should start going on the liberal networks and attacking him.
    This will force Biden to respond.

    I still think Trump is in trouble unless he starts showing a bit more humility and focus (not a lot, but a little). Copying the meaningless platitudes of Biden would be a good start. Control the wild tweets and tie Joe Biden to the radical left - relentlessly.

    The hideaway strategy is working swimmingly.
    I think you give Trumps campaign way too much ability in your ideas.
    At the moment the strategy is to appear on networks giving train wreck interviews.

    Mind you, when you employ your unqualified children and their unqualified partners to run things it should work well shouldn’t it?



  • @Crucial said in US Politics:

    @Frank said in US Politics:

    Biden's strategy of hiding away is working quite well.

    I think Trump will try to force Biden to come out and start campaigning.
    Trump should start going on the liberal networks and attacking him.
    This will force Biden to respond.

    I still think Trump is in trouble unless he starts showing a bit more humility and focus (not a lot, but a little). Copying the meaningless platitudes of Biden would be a good start. Control the wild tweets and tie Joe Biden to the radical left - relentlessly.

    The hideaway strategy is working swimmingly.
    I think you give Trumps campaign way too much ability in your ideas.
    At the moment the strategy is to appear on networks giving train wreck interviews.

    Mind you, when you employ your unqualified children and their unqualified partners to run things it should work well shouldn’t it?

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/the-stuff-of-memes-hard-hitting-trump-interview-with-australian-reporter-goes-viral-20200805-p55ilq.html

    I watched him talking to this reporter the other day. I strongly suspect he is no Machiavellian mastermind



  • @canefan said in US Politics:

    @Crucial said in US Politics:

    @Frank said in US Politics:

    Biden's strategy of hiding away is working quite well.

    I think Trump will try to force Biden to come out and start campaigning.
    Trump should start going on the liberal networks and attacking him.
    This will force Biden to respond.

    I still think Trump is in trouble unless he starts showing a bit more humility and focus (not a lot, but a little). Copying the meaningless platitudes of Biden would be a good start. Control the wild tweets and tie Joe Biden to the radical left - relentlessly.

    The hideaway strategy is working swimmingly.
    I think you give Trumps campaign way too much ability in your ideas.
    At the moment the strategy is to appear on networks giving train wreck interviews.

    Mind you, when you employ your unqualified children and their unqualified partners to run things it should work well shouldn’t it?

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/the-stuff-of-memes-hard-hitting-trump-interview-with-australian-reporter-goes-viral-20200805-p55ilq.html

    I watched him talking to this reporter the other day. I strongly suspect he is no Machiavellian mastermind

    It was like watching Nigel Tufnell confusion when asked what the point was of the amp going up to 11



  • @JC said in US Politics:

    I lolled

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    Interesting.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/most_of_europe_bans_mailin_ballots_over_high_risk_of_fraud_study.html

    In the European Union, 63% have put a ban on mailing in ballots except for citizens living overseas. Another 22% have imposed a ban even for those overseas. And most of those that allow mail-in ballots require some form of photo ID to get one, according to the report from the Crime Prevention Research Center shared with Secrets.
    
    “These countries have learned the hard way about what happens when mail-in ballots aren’t secured. They have also discovered how hard it is to detect vote buying when both those buying and selling the votes have an incentive to hide the exchange,” said author John R. Lott, the center’s president.
    


  • @Winger said in US Politics:

    @JC said in US Politics:

    I lolled

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    Interesting.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/most_of_europe_bans_mailin_ballots_over_high_risk_of_fraud_study.html

    In the European Union, 63% have put a ban on mailing in ballots except for citizens living overseas. Another 22% have imposed a ban even for those overseas. And most of those that allow mail-in ballots require some form of photo ID to get one, according to the report from the Crime Prevention Research Center shared with Secrets.
    
    “These countries have learned the hard way about what happens when mail-in ballots aren’t secured. They have also discovered how hard it is to detect vote buying when both those buying and selling the votes have an incentive to hide the exchange,” said author John R. Lott, the center’s president.
    

    You realize that Trump is all for mail in votes in states where they benefit him right?
    He potentially fucked up big time in Florida turning his own supporters against mail voting in a state where a lot of rep votes are made that way (including his own).
    Maybe someone should have made him a four colour bar chart?



  • @Winger

    "Whether you call it Vote by Mail or Absentee Voting, in Florida the election system is Safe and Secure, Tried and True. Florida’s Voting system has been cleaned up (we defeated Democrats attempts at change), so in Florida I encourage all to request a Ballot & Vote by Mail! #MAGA"

    So in other words, Vote by Mail is Bad and ought to be illegal unless it's being done by Republicans in which case it is excellent and to be encouraged. He is suing to stop absentee voting in Democrat-leaning Nevada at the same time as he is encouraging it in Republican-leaning Florida. He's really draining that swamp.



  • @JC

    What a dangerous road to lead a country down.

    When I spoke with my strongly Republican friend last weekend, they were all piss and vinegar about How he’s right blah blah blah. They don’t seem to get that - at some stage - the Dems will get back in power, and then any door that has been opened By Trump can be used by them.

    It’s the same silliness that Dems didn’t get about using executive orders to govern.

    That country. Holy shit.



  • @gt12 said in US Politics:

    @JC

    What a dangerous road to lead a country down.

    When I spoke with my strongly Republican friend last weekend, they were all piss and vinegar about How he’s right blah blah blah. They don’t seem to get that - at some stage - the Dems will get back in power, and then any door that has been opened By Trump can be used by them.

    It’s the same silliness that Dems didn’t get about using executive orders to govern.

    That country. Holy shit.

    I said the same thing to my US family about Obama using drones to kill people without congress approval, and to spy on US citizens. My exact wording is you might like this guy, but what about the next guy.



  • Whats this all about?

    🚨🚨 POTUS: "I have a lot of enemies out there. This may be the last time you see me for a while... a lot of very, very rich enemies, but they are not happy with what I'm doing but I figure we have one chance to do it and no other President is gonna do what I do.."



  • @Winger said in US Politics:

    Whats this all about?

    🚨🚨 POTUS: "I have a lot of enemies out there. This may be the last time you see me for a while... a lot of very, very rich enemies, but they are not happy with what I'm doing but I figure we have one chance to do it and no other President is gonna do what I do.."

    He's full of shit and you need to stop slurping the Kool Aid. Trump recently warned that Biden will take away your guns and he is against God and the Bible.

    https://play.stuff.co.nz/details/_6178947530001

    Biden is a practicing Roman Catholic who regularly attends church, despite his little show a couple of months ago Donald Trump is not a member of any church in Washington DC or anywhere apparently

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#:~:text=Biden and his wife are,the Brandywine in Greenville%2C Delaware.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/02/14/trump-mocks-faith-others-his-own-religious-practices-remain-opaque/



  • @Winger said in US Politics:

    Whats this all about?

    🚨🚨 POTUS: "I have a lot of enemies out there. This may be the last time you see me for a while... a lot of very, very rich enemies, but they are not happy with what I'm doing but I figure we have one chance to do it and no other President is gonna do what I do.."

    I wouldn't read much into it. When Trump starts a sentence at the moment I don't think he knows how he's going to end it or what words he'll use.



  • @Crucial said in US Politics:

    @Winger said in US Politics:

    Whats this all about?

    🚨🚨 POTUS: "I have a lot of enemies out there. This may be the last time you see me for a while... a lot of very, very rich enemies, but they are not happy with what I'm doing but I figure we have one chance to do it and no other President is gonna do what I do.."

    I wouldn't read much into it. When Trump starts a sentence at the moment I don't think he knows how he's going to end it or what words he'll use.

    Same goes for Joe



  • @MiketheSnow said in US Politics:

    @Crucial said in US Politics:

    @Winger said in US Politics:

    Whats this all about?

    🚨🚨 POTUS: "I have a lot of enemies out there. This may be the last time you see me for a while... a lot of very, very rich enemies, but they are not happy with what I'm doing but I figure we have one chance to do it and no other President is gonna do what I do.."

    I wouldn't read much into it. When Trump starts a sentence at the moment I don't think he knows how he's going to end it or what words he'll use.

    Same goes for Joe

    Probably why he's keeping his mouth shut right now



  • @canefan said in US Politics:

    @MiketheSnow said in US Politics:

    @Crucial said in US Politics:

    @Winger said in US Politics:

    Whats this all about?

    🚨🚨 POTUS: "I have a lot of enemies out there. This may be the last time you see me for a while... a lot of very, very rich enemies, but they are not happy with what I'm doing but I figure we have one chance to do it and no other President is gonna do what I do.."

    I wouldn't read much into it. When Trump starts a sentence at the moment I don't think he knows how he's going to end it or what words he'll use.

    Same goes for Joe

    Probably why he's keeping his mouth shut right now

    Forgotten the question



  • @canefan said in US Politics:

    @MiketheSnow said in US Politics:

    @Crucial said in US Politics:

    @Winger said in US Politics:

    Whats this all about?

    🚨🚨 POTUS: "I have a lot of enemies out there. This may be the last time you see me for a while... a lot of very, very rich enemies, but they are not happy with what I'm doing but I figure we have one chance to do it and no other President is gonna do what I do.."

    I wouldn't read much into it. When Trump starts a sentence at the moment I don't think he knows how he's going to end it or what words he'll use.

    Same goes for Joe

    Probably why he's keeping his mouth shut right now

    They should stage their debates in the local rest home. Just after ice cream and jelly time



  • @gt12 said in US Politics:

    he Dems will get back in power, and then any door that has been opened By Trump can be used by them.

    I'd imagine the next thing we'll hear will be some Democrats talking about punishing those who voted for Trump.



  • @canefan said in US Politics:

    Trump recently warned that Biden will take away your guns

    And his opponents go into Outrage Overdrive and obligingly back up Trump's "argument"...

    New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53684033



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:

    @canefan said in US Politics:

    Trump recently warned that Biden will take away your guns

    And his opponents go into Outrage Overdrive and obligingly back up Trump's "argument"...

    New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53684033

    Its clumsy isn't it. Why not wait until after the election? I'm sure Biden's team aren't happy



  • @canefan said in US Politics:

    Its clumsy isn't it. Why not wait until after the election?

    Thinking things thru takes second place to appearing virtuous in US politics


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