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    • canefan
      canefan @No Quarter last edited by

      @no-quarter said in US Politics:

      @gt12 said in US Politics:

      @no-quarter

      I'd like him to tell my non-white wife that she is the minority sex servant I own.

      I doubt it will get me laid more often, but you never know, perhaps he is more convincing in person.

      That must be satire right (I'm not on Twitter and can't be arsed checking)?

      Have been trying to figure that out, it doesn't appear to be a satire account, and he's now complaining about trolls. So at this stage he appears to be a blue check liberal with astonishingly low self awareness.

      The irony is that for him to think that Burr's wife could only exist in that capacity as a sex slave, is fucken racist! 😆

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        Dice last edited by

        That guy did get a response from Bill Burr's wife.

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        • Snowy
          Snowy @Dice last edited by

          Perfect response. I like it.

          She probably didn't appreciate being called a minority sex servant - nor owned, for that matter, but a concise, lucid reply. Probably could have done it in two words but I'm still impressed.

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          • Kiwiwomble
            Kiwiwomble last edited by Kiwiwomble

            i have never actually tweet anything...but i just went on to like her reply

            tweeted?

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            • Snowy
              Snowy @Kiwiwomble last edited by Snowy

              @kiwiwomble It could just be to twit - which seems appropriate for that shit show.

              I hope that that you didn't say "aaaamen sister" or "you go girl" in your twit, that could end badly.

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              • Paekakboyz
                Paekakboyz @Snowy last edited by

                @snowy or add in some watermelon emojis!!

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                • Kiwiwomble
                  Kiwiwomble @Snowy last edited by

                  @snowy said in US Politics:

                  @kiwiwomble It could just be to twit - which seems appropriate for that shit show.

                  I hope that that you didn't say "aaaamen sister" or "you go girl" in your twit, that could end badly.

                  just the "like" 😉

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                  • Frank
                    Frank last edited by

                    Kamala's been greasing the stairs again.

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                    • canefan
                      canefan @Frank last edited by

                      @frank said in US Politics:

                      Kamala's been greasing the stairs again.

                      In between him falling and Trump stumbling about like an old man, next time let's have a President who is 60 or younger? How hard can that be?

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                      • Snowy
                        Snowy @canefan last edited by

                        @canefan said in US Politics:

                        next time let's have a President who is 60 or younger? How hard can that be?

                        Getting a bit limited - got to be minimum of 35 to be POTUS. Don't mind the older guys myself.

                        I know this is a stretch, but healthy and capable, both physically and mentally, would be a good start (regardless of age).

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                        • canefan
                          canefan @Snowy last edited by

                          @snowy said in US Politics:

                          @canefan said in US Politics:

                          next time let's have a President who is 60 or younger? How hard can that be?

                          Getting a bit limited - got to be minimum of 35 to be POTUS. Don't mind the older guys myself.

                          I know this is a stretch, but healthy and capable, both physically and mentally, would be a good start (regardless of age).

                          I don't know about people you know, but CF Sr is in his mid late 70s and I wouldn't trust him operating my TV let alone the most powerful country in the free world

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                          • Snowy
                            Snowy @canefan last edited by

                            @canefan said in US Politics:

                            @snowy said in US Politics:

                            @canefan said in US Politics:

                            next time let's have a President who is 60 or younger? How hard can that be?

                            Getting a bit limited - got to be minimum of 35 to be POTUS. Don't mind the older guys myself.

                            I know this is a stretch, but healthy and capable, both physically and mentally, would be a good start (regardless of age).

                            I don't know about people you know, but CF Sr is in his mid late 70s and I wouldn't trust him operating my TV let alone the most powerful country in the free world

                            Hmm, my Dad is 84 and in the last few years has installed solar panels to setup for his Audi eTron (high tech machine actually), which he has now had for a while. Worked out all of the usage, consumption, etc, etc himself. New computer, phone, iPad - he deals with it all (with a bit of help from me). Finances it all through his self managed investments. Walked the Routeburn a couple of years ago, admittedly he broke his ankle on day one, but he still did another three days on it, and finished. Operations, and a long time in a moon boot afterwards, but he has some guts and wisdom. Actually, continuing wasn't a great move but he did it.

                            Not sure that I would want him as POTUS, but he wouldn't be any worse than some of the recent ones, and actually neither would some of his mates of similar age.

                            So older blokes aren't the problem for me. Competent ones are.

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                            • voodoo
                              voodoo @Snowy last edited by

                              @snowy said in US Politics:

                              @canefan said in US Politics:

                              @snowy said in US Politics:

                              @canefan said in US Politics:

                              next time let's have a President who is 60 or younger? How hard can that be?

                              Getting a bit limited - got to be minimum of 35 to be POTUS. Don't mind the older guys myself.

                              I know this is a stretch, but healthy and capable, both physically and mentally, would be a good start (regardless of age).

                              I don't know about people you know, but CF Sr is in his mid late 70s and I wouldn't trust him operating my TV let alone the most powerful country in the free world

                              Hmm, my Dad is 84 and in the last few years has installed solar panels to setup for his Audi eTron (high tech machine actually), which he has now had for a while. Worked out all of the usage, consumption, etc, etc himself. New computer, phone, iPad - he deals with it all (with a bit of help from me). Finances it all through his self managed investments. Walked the Routeburn a couple of years ago, admittedly he broke his ankle on day one, but he still did another three days on it, and finished. Operations, and a long time in a moon boot afterwards, but he has some guts and wisdom. Actually, continuing wasn't a great move but he did it.

                              Not sure that I would want him as POTUS, but he wouldn't be any worse than some of the recent ones, and actually neither would some of his mates of similar age.

                              So older blokes aren't the problem for me. Competent ones are.

                              Nothing like hearing about blokes twice my age who are 3x more competent. Great for the ego...😎

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                              • Snowy
                                Snowy @voodoo last edited by

                                @voodoo How do you think I feel. He's my bloody Dad!

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                                • MajorRage
                                  MajorRage @Snowy last edited by MajorRage

                                  @snowy I wouldn't put my dad quite in the above category but at 73 he more than capable of dealing with life issues, home maintenance and technology.

                                  What he's completely incapable of though (especially with his mates) is picking up any iota of young / woke vote. According this lot, everything he says is probably racist, sexist or bigoted & his tolerance for bullshit is absolutely zero. I've never had a conversation with him on the trans debate, but I expect it would be hilarious.

                                  Some might say I'm a chip off the old block.

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                                      • Victor Meldrew
                                        Victor Meldrew last edited by Victor Meldrew

                                        February: President Biden cancels funding for Trump border wall

                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56031481

                                        April: Construction of Trump’s border wall will continue under Biden, administration admits

                                        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/dhs-alejandro-mayorkas-border-wall-b1827535.html

                                        Joe and the media must wish it was late-2020 when it was so much easier to virtue-signal, blame everything on Trump and call him a liar, narcissist and blowhard, rather than attempt to understand the issues and engage in meaningful debate.

                                        The real tragedy is that thousands more kids are being trafficked to the US by gangs seeing Biden as weak on immigration and now living in appalling conditions.

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                                          pakman @Victor Meldrew last edited by

                                          @victor-meldrew Meanwhile, more immigrant children in custody than under the Donald.

                                          This isn’t going to end well.

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                                          • voodoo
                                            voodoo last edited by

                                            @victor-meldrew @pakman

                                            So to understand:

                                            • Biden is going to stay tough on immigration via plugging the gaps in the wall
                                            • Gangs and baddies don't believe him, so have increased attempts at illegal immigration
                                            • Bidens goodies have caught some of the baddies and have confiscated the human cargo
                                            • Biden is bad/failing because of this

                                            Do I have it right?

                                            You guys know its only the 1st week of April, right?

                                            I'm prepared to cut this administration some slack here.

                                            I'm far more interested in the response to China. Those dudes scare the shit out of me, so emboldened, so seemingly prepared to do anything to secure their long-term dominance.

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                                            • Victor Meldrew
                                              Victor Meldrew @voodoo last edited by Victor Meldrew

                                              @voodoo said in US Politics:

                                              Biden is going to stay tough on immigration via plugging the gaps in the wall

                                              Yes. That very same wall he and his party spent the last four years denouncing as evil and inhumane and the work of a demented two-bit dictator.

                                              Gangs and baddies don't believe him, so have increased attempts at illegal immigration

                                              Why would they believe him? His party called Trump a racist when he called Mexican trafficking gangs "bad people". Biden told the world separating child refugees from their families was evil and he would stop it. He also said he would stop building the wall and would process illegal immigrants on US soil.

                                              What did he think could possibly go wrong?

                                              Biden is bad/failing because of this.

                                              On this, absolutely. And it's children who are suffering.

                                              He and his party had four years to analyse and come up with a workable Mexican border policy and clearly didn't. They simply retreated into a Trump-bashing comfort zone rather that look at the reality. And he's still doing it - blaming Trump for the huge increase in child refugees rather than try to fix the problem.

                                              I'm far more interested in the response to China. Those dudes scare the shit out of me, so emboldened, so seemingly prepared to do anything to secure their long-term dominance.

                                              I'm equally worried by an emboldened Putin annexing more Ukrainian territory and then some. After Crimea was annexed and Obama/Biden pretty much waved the white flag, he might just have a sneaking suspicion that Biden will unfurl the flag again.

                                              We need a reasonably-united, strong US, led by a bloke who thinks things thru and a searching, analytical media to encourage debate. Instead we've had Trump and now a President who seemingly can't think things thru and gets praised in the media as a statesman for not falling off the lectern at a press conference.

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                                                pakman last edited by

                                                Joe taking on the Gun Lobby.

                                                Fasten your seatbelts!

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                                                • Paekakboyz
                                                  Paekakboyz @pakman last edited by

                                                  @pakman Gun lobby is pretty much broke isn't it? He might be going gently gently but the first stuff to come out sounds pretty mild.

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                                                    pakman @Paekakboyz last edited by

                                                    @paekakboyz said in US Politics:

                                                    @pakman Gun lobby is pretty much broke isn't it? He might be going gently gently but the first stuff to come out sounds pretty mild.

                                                    Kudos to him for at least having a go.

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                                                    • Paekakboyz
                                                      Paekakboyz @pakman last edited by

                                                      @pakman I totally agree! it's still early days so he's got time to push for the changes he was talking about during the campaign.

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                                                      • Siam
                                                        Siam last edited by Siam

                                                        Its interesting following up on Joe's election promises. It's hard to get a fair representation because the President is yet to hold many press conferences and still hasn't addressed congress.

                                                        Here are some of Joe's campaign promises and now democrat voters are waiting. (All of the videos are just Joe speaking)

                                                        The $15 minimum wage increase has been pretty much scrapped.

                                                        16 seconds vid

                                                        Another that no one will watch but there is a 20 second montage at exactly 6:35 which is enlightening. (Incidently on this video they talk about Jacinda "Andren" and NZ minimum wage but the pertinentcontent is at 6:35)

                                                        And the wall - first 20 seconds direct quote from Joe

                                                        Just trying to apply the same scrutineering as the previous president was subjected to, minus the epithets🙂

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                                                        • Siam
                                                          Siam last edited by Siam

                                                          On the immigrants crisis at the border. From Dan Crenshaw on Rogan. Dan Crenshaw is literally a one eyed Republican congressman.

                                                          The cartels controls the border on the Mexico side. They charge about $300 per person. For families with kids they're put on a raft and told to surrender on the US side of the river. Nothing will happen and you'll be processed.
                                                          Single men are charged a bit higher and have to cross using cartel guides, coyotes. Less guarantee of success.

                                                          100,000 border crossings every month equals a tidy 30 million dollar side business for the cartels!

                                                          The border processing for the Trump administration and the President Harris ( just quoting Joe. 4 times publicly at least🙂) administration are very similar. The single men get sent back immediately mostly. The families stay in grossly overcrowded processing areas. NGOs test for covid but border forces have no resources to deal with covid carrying asylum seekers.

                                                          The difference in Administrations strategy is small but showed effectiveness. The previous administration would randomly pick 29% of asylum seekers - let's be clear what these people are in order to bypass normal immigration processes. They are asylum seekers, fleeing persecution and death. A fast track into the United States.

                                                          The randomly picked 21%, singles and families, are (were) immediately sent back to US premises in Mexico where their asylum applications were taken over by Mexico and other Latin American countries. Trump had agreements with Mexico and others to aide this. Apparently Biden dispensed with those working relationships.

                                                          The effect of the random 29% was that bad actors and non genuine asylum seekers weren't willing to risk life savings payments to cartels only to lose the processing lottery and be back in Mexico minus the non refundable money you just paid to the cartel. This stalled the crossing numbers and greatly relieved border resources.

                                                          Spurious, non genuine border crossing attempts dropped away significantly due to this simple random sampling.
                                                          Under the Harris Biden administration, crossings have surged and asylum seekers have stated that the atmosphere is that Joe will let you in. Asylum seekers are wearing Biden shirts in some epic trolling, probably supplied by the $30,000,000 a month cartels

                                                          President Trump was pilloried for his inane and destructive public utterances. President Biden has a few of his own, and a chocka block border to show for it.

                                                          According to Dan Crenshaw.

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                                                          • voodoo
                                                            voodoo @Siam last edited by

                                                            @siam said in US Politics:

                                                            . Asylum seekers are wearing Biden shirts in some epic trolling, probably supplied by the $30,000,000 a month cartels

                                                            That is bloody funny (if it wasn't so serious)

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                                                            • Victor Meldrew
                                                              Victor Meldrew @Siam last edited by Victor Meldrew

                                                              @siam said in US Politics:

                                                              . Dan Crenshaw is literally a one eyed Republican congressman.

                                                              Ex- Navy SEAL. Lost his eye in combat. Set up a bi-partisan group in congress with Tulsi Gabbard and others to encourage politicians to find ways of working together rather than just shouting insults.

                                                              When SNL mocked his war injury, he didn't demand an apology but went on the show to talk about Veterans Day and the need for Americans to come together. Very classy.

                                                              Def. one to watch.

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                                                              • Kirwan
                                                                Kirwan @Victor Meldrew last edited by

                                                                @victor-meldrew said in US Politics:

                                                                @siam said in US Politics:

                                                                . Dan Crenshaw is literally a one eyed Republican congressman.

                                                                Ex- Navy SEAL. Lost his eye in combat. Set up a bi-partisan group in congress with Tulsi Gabbard and others to encourage politicians to find ways of working together rather than just shouting insults.

                                                                When SNL mocked his war injury, he didn't demand an apology but went on the show to talk about Veterans Day and the need for Americans to come together. Very classy.

                                                                Def. one to watch.

                                                                He comes across very well, and is very good at tripping up hosts with calmly stated facts.

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                                                                • Duluth
                                                                  Duluth last edited by Duluth

                                                                  Crenshaw is almost as hated as Jeb Bush by the right over the last few months. He’s seen as inauthentic and inconsistent, the new Jeb, Rubio, Ryan etc. I don’t see how his reputation recovers amongst the voters he needs

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                                                                  • Victor Meldrew
                                                                    Victor Meldrew @pakman last edited by Victor Meldrew

                                                                    @pakman said in US Politics:

                                                                    @paekakboyz said in US Politics:

                                                                    @pakman Gun lobby is pretty much broke isn't it? He might be going gently gently but the first stuff to come out sounds pretty mild.

                                                                    Kudos to him for at least having a go.

                                                                    I think the real problem is the real animosity & insult-throwing between the NRA and a sizeable minority in Congress, which makes warfare between Trump and his opponents look tame.

                                                                    Trump tried to build a bi-partisan approach (and tbf, as did Obama & Bush) while reassuring the NRA and had McConnell & even Pelosi on board but it came to nothing, seemingly as Senators started squabbling and shouting.

                                                                    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/trump-nra-gun-reform-talks-1454533

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                                                                    • Victor Meldrew
                                                                      Victor Meldrew @Duluth last edited by Victor Meldrew

                                                                      @duluth said in US Politics:

                                                                      Crenshaw is almost as hated as Jeb Bush by the right over the last few months. He’s seen as inauthentic and inconsistent, the new Jeb, Rubio, Ryan etc. I don’t see how his reputation recovers amongst the voters he needs

                                                                      Crenshaw is UK-born so can't run for President, but I just think he's the sort of calm, measured, pragmatic politician the US needs but seems to lack at the moment.

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                                                                      • Duluth
                                                                        Duluth @Victor Meldrew last edited by

                                                                        @victor-meldrew said in US Politics:

                                                                        Crenshaw is UK-born so can't run for President, but I just think he's the sort of calm, measured, pragmatic politician the US needs but seems to lack at the moment.

                                                                        He probably is eligible. It would be challenged though as several candidates have been before (McCain, Obama, Cruz off the top of my head.. it would be nice if the courts actually rules on one of the challenges so we can have a settled definition)
                                                                        He's talked about running several times. Plenty of pundits/journalists have suggested him for 2024.

                                                                        I agree he's media friendly but that becomes a negative when your base thinks you have sold them out. I can't see him having any impact now

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                                                                        • Victor Meldrew
                                                                          Victor Meldrew @Duluth last edited by

                                                                          @duluth said in US Politics:

                                                                          @victor-meldrew said in US Politics:

                                                                          Crenshaw is UK-born so can't run for President, but I just think he's the sort of calm, measured, pragmatic politician the US needs but seems to lack at the moment.

                                                                          He probably is eligible. It would be challenged though as several candidates have been before (McCain, Obama, Cruz off the top of my head.. it would be nice if the courts actually rules on one of the challenges so we can have a settled definition)
                                                                          He's talked about running several times. Plenty of pundits/journalists have suggested him for 2024.

                                                                          I agree he's media friendly but that becomes a negative when your base thinks you have sold them out. I can't see him having any impact now

                                                                          Dunno. I think his grown-up style of politics might appeal to people who are sick and tired of the Pelosi's & Trump's of this world.

                                                                          Maybe he's a sign of a change in the tone of US politics. Hope so.

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                                                                          • Duluth
                                                                            Duluth @Victor Meldrew last edited by

                                                                            @victor-meldrew said in US Politics:

                                                                            Dunno. I think his grown-up style of politics might appeal to people who are sick and tired of the Pelosi's & Trump's of this world.

                                                                            Maybe he's a sign of a change in the tone of US politics. Hope so.

                                                                            I don’t see anything new. The criticism of him from the right is that he pandered certain groups that he didn’t really support. Words not matching actions. He’s nothing special, just your standard politician with above average tv presence.

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                                                                              • Kirwan
                                                                                Kirwan last edited by

                                                                                And here is a good insight of why the US is in the shitshow it is;

                                                                                https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter

                                                                                Happening in our schools too, just not as overtly.

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                                                                                • Frank
                                                                                  Frank @Kirwan last edited by Frank

                                                                                  @kirwan said in US Politics:
                                                                                  Happening in our schools too, just not as overtly.

                                                                                  When I trained as primary school teacher in 2004 -
                                                                                  I was told I could not call out a Maori student because Maori felt special shame. (he was stealing other children's things)
                                                                                  I was told I had to apologize to a naughty student who had mocked me and then run off the school grounds after I told him off.
                                                                                  Two girls got another trainee teacher suspended because they said she hit them - turns out it was false and no punishment was given to them.
                                                                                  I was not allowed to read any story with two parents in it, because too many fatherless families.
                                                                                  It'll much worse now - of that I am sure
                                                                                  I teach in Asia. None of that PC bullshit here.

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                                                                                  • antipodean
                                                                                    antipodean @Kirwan last edited by

                                                                                    @kirwan said in US Politics:

                                                                                    And here is a good insight of why the US is in the shitshow it is;

                                                                                    https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter

                                                                                    Happening in our schools too, just not as overtly.

                                                                                    America is a failing state. We're in the enviable position of witnessing what it must have been like to watch the Roman Empire crumble.

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