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Getting back to Wikileaks , I wonder if the leftards that have been defending it like Pilger the Putin fluffer will tie themselves in knots trying find a way to excuse this?
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11778298
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@gollum said in US Politics:
You don't understand Trump supporters and you don't speak for them.
We knew and know full well there will be compromise.
We knew he was a salesman and prone to exaggeration - not like more honest Bernie.
But there is something deeper in him that we see. A strength and a businessman common sense. Not another fucking lawyer like Clinton or Obama.-The wall is being at least partially built and border security will improve. - good
-Criminal illegal immigrants will be deported and perhaps more - good
-Trump is taking a strong stand against jobs being shipped off - good
-It looks as if all the money hiding overseas will be coming back - good
-Taxes will be coming down - good
-With time, Obamacare will be given the chop - good
-The US will not be wholesale importing Syrian refugees - good
-China will be more closely scrutinized - good
-Relations look to be on the improve with Russia - goodLooks like a lot of winning to me.
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@Frank said in US Politics:
@gollum said in US Politics:
You don't understand Trump supporters and you don't speak for them.
We knew and know full well there will be compromise.Frank, did you vote in the US election?
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@Tim said in US Politics:
@Frank said in US Politics:
@gollum said in US Politics:
You don't understand Trump supporters and you don't speak for them.
We knew and know full well there will be compromise.Frank, did you vote in the US election?
That's the interesting aspect to the unquestioning support from Frank and Wairau.
What does interest me is the effect a Trump presidency is going to have on the sjws around the world and their behaviour Will they double down on their idiocy ?
Also if anyone has seen Winger/Silvers response to this Trump nomination please post it.
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@Tim said in US Politics:
If you don't vote or donate, and you're not even in America, then calling yourself a "supporter" is pretty meaningless.
No it isnt. There are plenty of Trump detractors who are not American and didnt vote, no different to being a supporter. If you are going to denounce people for supporting Trump who cannot vote in the US, then you need to denounce those that detract from him as well.
Trump represents a much wider 'movement' that is resonating in many different countries, people are supportive of the ideas and attitude not just him. He isnt even the first.
I find it meaningless to try and shut down support of this movement based on wether you are US voter.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
@Tim said in US Politics:
If you don't vote or donate, and you're not even in America, then calling yourself a "supporter" is pretty meaningless.
No it isnt. There are plenty of Trump detractors who are not American and didnt vote, no different to being a supporter. If you are going to denounce people for supporting Trump who cannot vote in the US, then you need to denounce those that detract from him as well.
Trump represents a much wider 'movement' that is resonating in many different countries, people are supportive of the ideas and attitude not just him. He isnt even the first.
I find it meaningless to try and shut down support of this movement based on wether you are US voter.
Who's trying to shut it down ? I understand the support for him and agree with some of what they say . If someone was posting about Hillary with the same sort of devotion I'd be asking the same question . Apart from Gollum no one really did though.
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@jegga said in US Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
@Tim said in US Politics:
If you don't vote or donate, and you're not even in America, then calling yourself a "supporter" is pretty meaningless.
No it isnt. There are plenty of Trump detractors who are not American and didnt vote, no different to being a supporter. If you are going to denounce people for supporting Trump who cannot vote in the US, then you need to denounce those that detract from him as well.
Trump represents a much wider 'movement' that is resonating in many different countries, people are supportive of the ideas and attitude not just him. He isnt even the first.
I find it meaningless to try and shut down support of this movement based on wether you are US voter.
Who's trying to shut it down ? I understand the support for him and agree with some of what they say . If someone was posting about Hillary with the same sort of devotion I'd be asking the same question . Apart from Gollum no one really did though.
I think Tim is. Basically his message is that unless you actually voted for Trump you cannot support him... or cannot call yourself a Trump supporter.
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@jegga said in US Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
@Tim said in US Politics:
If you don't vote or donate, and you're not even in America, then calling yourself a "supporter" is pretty meaningless.
No it isnt. There are plenty of Trump detractors who are not American and didnt vote, no different to being a supporter. If you are going to denounce people for supporting Trump who cannot vote in the US, then you need to denounce those that detract from him as well.
Trump represents a much wider 'movement' that is resonating in many different countries, people are supportive of the ideas and attitude not just him. He isnt even the first.
I find it meaningless to try and shut down support of this movement based on wether you are US voter.
Who's trying to shut it down ? I understand the support for him and agree with some of what they say . If someone was posting about Hillary with the same sort of devotion I'd be asking the same question . Apart from Gollum no one really did though.
IMO there is a lot more devotion on this board and in general society for denouncing Trump than supporting him.
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What I think is that it is presumptuous for someone for does not live in America, doesn't donate to the GOP, and does not vote in elections, to post as though they have special insight into US voters, or to post as though they were one of them. e.g.
You don't understand Trump supporters and you don't speak for them.
We knew and know full well there will be compromise.If an American who lived in Japan posted that they knew about Liberal voters in Australia because they supported the party, then I would treat their claim the same. Reading blogs and newspapers is very different from being a voter.
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@Nepia said in US Politics:
@jegga said in US Politics:
@Nepia the guy I linked to is an interesting choice for Trumps cabinet given his thoughts on global warming. Winger would be so conflicted .
I think he's reversed his thinking since then hasn't he?
Interesting, he's picked a few ex military people so far .
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