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A mildly amusing fake Twitter account having Trump as a 9th Century Mercian King.
I like the one about The Venerable Beds being a hypocrite.
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@Frank said in US Politics:
If I were Trump, I would not pursue the current travel ban EO any further, make the vetting more "extreme" in the interim, get the new Supreme Court justice in as quickly as possible, then resubmit a cleaned up version of the EO - possibly with some love hearts and flowers drawn on it so the 9th circuit like it more.
A variant of that is likely the plan all along. Much like the "make Mexico pay for it" wall.
They will relax on the green card and existing visa holders for sure.
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@Frank said in US Politics:
There's a lot of focus on this thread on Trump.
Haha, really?
From the guy that posts about Trump in pretty much every post, and even mentions him in other threads too.
This is a US Election thread, about a polarising figure that won the election, who else will they focus on?
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@taniwharugby
True, true. Let's also talk about how shit the left has become in the US. Okay?
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@Frank said in US Politics:
@taniwharugby
True, true. Let's also talk about how shit the left has become in the US. Okay?Hasnt this been happening already? It's like you are new to this thread or something!
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@canefan said in US Politics:
The dems are largely irrelevant. No power no nothing at the moment. I don't see them making a lazarus like recovery either
The GOP was broadly written off in a similar manner four years ago... these things change quickly across electoral cycles (unless you're Jeremy Corbyn)
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@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
The dems are largely irrelevant. No power no nothing at the moment. I don't see them making a lazarus like recovery either
The GOP was broadly written off in a similar manner four years ago... these things change quickly across electoral cycles (unless you're Jeremy Corbyn)
The GOP was a punch line in the run up to the primaries. Love him or loath him but Trump is the sole reason they won the white house. None of the other candidates would have generated the following that Trump did
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@canefan said in US Politics:
@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
The dems are largely irrelevant. No power no nothing at the moment. I don't see them making a lazarus like recovery either
The GOP was broadly written off in a similar manner four years ago... these things change quickly across electoral cycles (unless you're Jeremy Corbyn)
The GOP was a punch line in the run up to the primaries. Love him or loath him but Trump is the sole reason they won the white house. None of the other candidates would have generated the following that Trump did
What???
They held congress and the senate.
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@canefan said in US Politics:
The dems are largely irrelevant. No power no nothing at the moment. I don't see them making a lazarus like recovery either
I don't know if you've been paying attention, but governments have been both benefit and victim of large pendulum swings lately. Just ask Queensland...
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
The dems are largely irrelevant. No power no nothing at the moment. I don't see them making a lazarus like recovery either
I don't know if you've been paying attention, but governments have been both benefit and victim of large pendulum swings lately. Just ask Queensland...
What happened in Queensland?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback Swing of over 13% in 2012 to win government. Labor went from 51 seats to 7. Three years later they won government again with 44 seats and a swing of 14%
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback Swing of over 13% in 2012 to win government. Labor went from 51 seats to 7. Three years later they won government again with 44 seats and a swing of 14%
They're predicting a swing of about 12% against Barnett in WA in the upcoming state election.
This is two-party politics now I guess. One term governments might just become the norm, or hung Parliament situations.
Meanwhile the Libs are scrambling to suck up to One Nation across various electorates, because nothing makes you look more like a populist stack of useless shunts than sucking up to the lowest common denominator.
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@NTA said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback Swing of over 13% in 2012 to win government. Labor went from 51 seats to 7. Three years later they won government again with 44 seats and a swing of 14%
They're predicting a swing of about 12% against Barnett in WA in the upcoming state election.
This is two-party politics now I guess. One term governments might just become the norm, or hung Parliament situations.
Meanwhile the Libs are scrambling to suck up to One Nation across various electorates, because nothing makes you look more like a populist stack of useless shunts than sucking up to the lowest common denominator.
One Nation polling 23% in Queensland. They'll probably have the balance of power. I don't know whether that's because a quarter of the state are retarded or that they're so pissed off with the current lot they're prepared to vote for one. Considering the options are the absurd mongo Pallachook and whoever the ridiculously corrupt LNP has installed, you can't really blame them.
Nation-wide the dark horse now is Bernadi. He's far more presentable than Hanson and has the advantage of being able to string a sentence together. Will be interesting to see what damage he can do. Then again he's from South Australia and people probably won't even notice he exists.
On the Republicans, I do recall talk about how weak they were some years back. But that was in the immediate aftermath of W and Iraq and of course the Obama phenomenon. They did have some good talent coming through though. The Dems on the other hand seem more concerned about playing identity politics and that vital issue of the colour of their leader. Then again, if it all goes to shit for the Republicans under Trump then the Dems will win big time, regardless of who they put up.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
Then again, if it all goes to shit for the Republicans under Trump then the Dems will win big time, regardless of who they put up
And this is the thing now: the middle people don't vote FOR someone, they vote AGAINST someone.
EDIT: or against something
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
On the Republicans, I do recall talk about how weak they were some years back. But that was in the immediate aftermath of W and Iraq and of course the Obama phenomenon. They did have some good talent coming through though. The Dems on the other hand seem more concerned about playing identity politics and that vital issue of the colour of their leader. Then again, if it all goes to shit for the Republicans under Trump then the Dems will win big time, regardless of who they put up.
Considering how much leeway his supporters are giving him so far I reckon Trump will have to make a monumental hash of the whole thing in order to see things swing back. Accusations of corruption or dodgy dealings won't be enough, but you never know. I wonder if the outrage we read about is MSM blowing up the screams of a vocal minority or will many of the people who didn't vote in the presidential elections come out and do so now. If they do who knows who they will all vote for
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I don't know how widely it is known that in the USA they have a Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. There is a plaque in there which lists the warning signs of facism.
Powerful and continued nationalism
Disdain for human rights
Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
Supremacy of the military
Rampant sexism
Controlled mass media
Obsession with national security
Religion and government intertwined
Corporate power protected
Labour power suppressed
Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
Obsession with crime and punishment
Rampant cronyism
Fraudulent elections
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