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A follow on story, seemingly from the Rotherham grooming gang thing. Now, i don't see this as evidence of the collapse of UK society or that law enforcement in the UK is all about hate crime and nothing else, nor that this is a sign of pandering to a minority. The end result was the right one albeit getting there has caused significant distress. No, what worries me is that the council concerned, Rotherham, continues to infer they were somehow in the right and also the inference that no-one will be held accountable for an incredibly stupid and distressing initial decision.
From the BBC:
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@rembrandt said in British Politics:
Oh good, still on the street.
If only they'd had those Cookie Monster bins back then to stop it all from happening. Where tf do you even get a knife like that?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in British Politics:
@rembrandt said in British Politics:
Oh good, still on the street.
If only they'd had those Cookie Monster bins back then to stop it all from happening. Where tf do you even get a knife like that?
Probably Amazon. Same day delivery if you have Prime.
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@jegga meanwhile...
"UK net migration is running at almost 275,000 a year, despite the figure from the EU falling to its lowest level in nearly six years.
Official figures published today show that net migration from outside the bloc, which government can control, is at its highest level in 14 years.
Campaigners for lower immigration described the figure for non-EU net migration as “astonishing”.
The government has promised to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands and is expected to announce plans for a new post-Brexit immigration system this month.
Sajid Javid, the home secretary, has said that everyone coming to work in future will need a visa and that the immigration white paper will have a commitment to bring net migration down to sustainable levels.
Overall, net migration in the year to June was 273,000, exceeding the government’s target of 100,000. Non-EU net migration was at 248,000 and EU net migration was 74,000.
The rise in net migration from non-EU states is being driven by increases in migrants from Asia coming to study and work, and fewer people leaving the UK.
Figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show that non-EU net migration — the difference between those leaving and those arriving for more than a year — rose from 196,000 in the year to June 2016 to 248,000 to June this year.
It was the highest net figure since 2004 and is a result of rising immigration from outside the EU in recent years and a fall in those leaving the UK.
The net increase of migrants coming from Asia was 40,000, compared with 17,000 from other non-EU states.
Statisticians said that there has been an increase in immigration of Asian, and particularly south Asian, citizens for work-related reasons in the past year.
EU net migration was 74,000 in the year to June, the lowest estimate since 2012, according to the ONS figures
The numbers from Romania and Bulgaria, along with those from the original members states, rose, while those from Poland and seven other east European states fell by 14,000.
Lord Green of Deddington, the chairman of Migration Watch UK, which campaigns for lower immigration, said: “The net inflow of EU citizens is clearly continuing, despite cries of alarm from industry after Brexit.
“Non-EU net migration at 248,000 is astonishing. It is the highest for 14 years and is a result of the government’s failure to take effective action to reduce it in recent years.”
Jay Lindop, the director of the Centre for International Migration at the ONS, said: “Net migration continues to add to the population and has remained fairly stable since its peak in 2016, with around 270,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving in the year ending June 2018.
“However, there are different patterns for EU and non-EU migration. Due to increasing numbers arriving for work and study, non-EU net migration is now at the highest level since 2004. In contrast, EU net migration, while still adding to the population as a whole, is at the lowest since 2012.”
Separate figures show a surge in the number of EU migrants being given UK citizenship since the Brexit referendum in 2016.
The number from the original EU states given citizenship rose from 4,300 in 2015 to 15,400 last year, those from Poland and seven other east European countries rose from 5,700 to 11,000 and those from Bulgaria and Romania from 2,600 to 4,800."
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@jegga said in British Politics:
@jc that will end well
My bet is that it won't end at all. There is no will in the UK's political classes to state that adding people from other cultures at a rate equivalent of a city the size of Belfast every year is a bad idea. So it will just go on.
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@jegga said in British Politics:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12168853
Well done Jegs, it's only taken you two days to catch up.
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@antipodean said in British Politics:
@jc And yet people still frame Brexit as an economic argument. It's about sovereignty.
The vote or the actual deal?
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@antipodean That’s because for a lot of people (myself included) the economic question was (and still is) much more important than the sovereignty question.
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@bones said in British Politics:
Oh hell yes, me likey.
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@catogrande said in British Politics:
@antipodean said in British Politics:
@jc And yet people still frame Brexit as an economic argument. It's about sovereignty.
The vote or the actual deal?
Thing is that the two arrive together.
No use wrecking the economy on a principle when you could make a well prepared exit instead.
The referendum result in no way meant the separation had to happen ASAP.
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@crucial said in British Politics:
@catogrande said in British Politics:
@antipodean said in British Politics:
@jc And yet people still frame Brexit as an economic argument. It's about sovereignty.
The vote or the actual deal?
Thing is that the two arrive together.
No use wrecking the economy on a principle when you could make a well prepared exit instead.
The referendum result in no way meant the separation had to happen ASAP.
I see that the only parallel that Treasury could find was when NZ wasn’t prepared for UK joking the EC and how damaging it was.I agree, though I was responding to @antipodean comment about the economic/sovereignty question. To my mind the vote was very much on emotive issues, compared to the detail of any agreement which is more likely to be centered around economic issues. Whichever way you look at it and from whichever viewpoint you may come from, it has benn handled appallingly.
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@catogrande said in British Politics:
@antipodean said in British Politics:
@jc And yet people still frame Brexit as an economic argument. It's about sovereignty.
The vote or the actual deal?
The vote, hence the outcome. The difficulty is in the unwrapping to find the gift may not be what you wanted.
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