Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry)
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Does anyone know if Gibson will be available this week?
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@Duluth Thought he was out for the season with Faiane? I'd back us if we had those two, but as it stands, it's anyone's final.
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Kick-off time for this game is 6.35pm! Just in case someone hadn't noticed.
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@Stargazer Odd timing!
Would've thought an afternoon game was a better idea.
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Sky would want the coverage of the final to lead into the AB test rather than have to fill space between games. Also need to factor in extra time, if required.
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Auckland's to lose innit?
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@Siam said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
Auckland's to lose innit?
You've got that round the wrong way, the plucky Aucklanders up against the defending champs the international XV, the dominant Crusaders province, with the deep pockets.
Auckland will do well to keep them under 50.
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@Siam Not this year!
Although the TAB has Auckland at $1.55 vs $2.30 for Tasman.
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Has Auckland ever lost a home final? I don't think they have.
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@Bovidae said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
Has Auckland ever lost a home final? I don't think they have.
Yeah I just checked the results page
Won these home finals
1993, 1995, 1996, 1999, 2005, 2007, 2018Lost four home semi finals though
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@Duluth said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
Lost four home semi finals though
At least two of those were to Waikato, so you've got over that hurdle - just.
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Yeah Waikato and Wellington twice each.
Waikato has had a horror run (I suspect that is changing). Last weekend was Waikato's first big boys knock out game since 2011??
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Yep. Waikato made back-to-back finals in 2010 and 2011 and lost to Canterbury both times, but nothing since then. We should have won in 2011 at home.
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Auckland v Tasman – PREMIERSHIP FINAL
Saturday 28 November
6.35pm, Eden Park Auckland
Downer Referee: Nick Briant
Assistants: Richard Kelly & Cam Stone
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Since the expanded competition started in 2006 only two teams have lost a home final - Wellington (twice) and Waikato.
It will be a choke of monumental proportions if Auckland loses to the injury-ravaged Tasman team.
It's a miracle we've got as far as we have!
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@Chris-B said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
Since the expanded competition started in 2006 only two teams have lost a home final - Wellington (twice) and Waikato.
It will be a choke of monumental proportions if Auckland loses to the injury-ravaged Tasman team.
It's a miracle we've got as far as we have!
Nah, we've lost our inspirational captain, and his backup, so are also injury-ravaged. With these injuries we even lost to lowly Canterbury.
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@Kirwan We're missing pretty much an entire forward pack!
Atu Moli, Andrew Makalio, Isaac Salmon, Pari Pari Parkinson, Jacob Norris, Ethan Blackadder.
Plus Frizell and Lomax away with the ABs.
Added to those who departed last year - Wyatt Crockett, Tim Perry, Jordan Taufua, Liam Squire.
It's a miracle, I say!
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@Chris-B said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
@Kirwan We're missing pretty much an entire forward pack!
Atu Moli, Andrew Makalio, Isaac Salmon, Pari Pari Parkinson, Jacob Norris, Ethan Blackadder.
Plus Frizell and Lomax away with the ABs.
Added to those who departed last year - Wyatt Crockett, Tim Perry, Jordan Taufua, Liam Squire.
It's a miracle, I say!
Ofa, Patrick, Akira, Sotutu for our AB decimation, and plenty of injuries for us too!
It's a cripple fight, I tells ya.
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Tumua Manu is in danger of missing his own farewell party at Eden Park on Saturday night as the influential Auckland midfielder bids to shake off a hamstring problem to roll up for his final match in the blue and white hoops.
Manu picked up a minor hamstring tear in last Saturday’s 23-18 semifinal victory over Waikato and sat out Tuesday’s training session as preparations ramped up for Saturday’s title decider against the dangerous Tasman outfit.
But the 27-year-old Samoa-born centre told Stuff he will be doing his level best to prove his fitness by Thursday and keep intact his outstanding midfield combination with Tanielu Tele’a that was so influential in guiding Alama Ieremia’s side into their second Premiership final in three years.
“It’s a little tear outside the hamstring,” said Manu. “I’ll find out Thursday. Fingers crossed, because I am desperate to play. I felt it against Waikato, but thought ‘it’s not a big problem’. Hopefully it isn’t.”
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If he doesn’t play we’re looking at Hickey starting and a midfield of Plummer/Tele’a
That ends the conversation about who should be favourites
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Reading that article earlier today, it also says Umaga asked Manu to play for Moana Pasifika, but he can't.
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@Duluth said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
If he doesn’t play we’re looking at Hickey starting and a midfield of Plummer/Tele’a
That ends the conversation about who should be favourites
Ahh, but Tim O'Malley was also busily getting his hammy strapped on Saturday night, so we're equally waiting with bated breath.
We might have Kieron Fonotia at second five!
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@Chris-B said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
@Duluth said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
If he doesn’t play we’re looking at Hickey starting and a midfield of Plummer/Tele’a
That ends the conversation about who should be favourites
Ahh, but Tim O'Malley was also busily getting his hammy strapped on Saturday night, so we're equally waiting with bated breath.
We might have Kieron Fonotia at second five
Auckland bookmaker phones suddenly ringing off the hook...
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They uploaded the GOAT final.
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@Dice Ancient history!
Here's some highlights of something better and more recent!
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A Tasman preview...
https://www.mako.nz/news/tasmans-high-fliers-head-for-eden-park
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@Dice said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
They uploaded the GOAT final.
Amazing game, brilliant performance from Auckland. One of the great comebacks.
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@Duluth from what I heard, he was close to signing for Northland (think this was pre-2019 season)
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Be interesting to see if he pops up in a Super squad next week - he's certainly good enough.
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Tasman will come to Eden Park to defend their Mitre 10 Cup Premiership title on Saturday night. The gates will be opened for free entry at Eden Park allowing the Auckland Rugby community to come and watch their team attempt to win their second title in three years thanks to principal sponsor, Barfoot & Thompson. Head Coach, Alama Ieremia says the team are relishing the opportunity to play in front of a big crowd. “Our community has always been at the forefront of our values throughout the season and thanks to Barfoot & Thompson, we have the opportunity to finish strong in front of our Auckland community who have all been through a challenging year.” Ieremia has made several changes to the match day squad that were victorious over Waikato in the Premiership Semi-Final. Marist Halfback, Taufa Funaki comes into the squad after making his debut for Auckland in Round 3 against Manawatu. James Lay and Niko Jones come into the starting lineup and Jack Whetton will make his return the starting team after suffering a shoulder injury in the previous meeting with Tasman back in Round 6. Both teams finished the 2020 season with a 7-3 record. When both teams met back in Round 6 at Eden Park, Auckland proved too good for Tasman, taking the game 31-10. Ieremia is aware of what Tasman can bring to finals rugby but is positive that his team will be ready for the contest. “Tasman are a good finals team. We saw that in the 2019 Semi-Final, but that was last season. They are defending champions, but We will definitely be up for this last push come Saturday.” Kickoff is 6:35pm and Thanks to Barfoot & Thompson It will be free entry into the Mitre 10 Cup Final at Eden Park. -
"Just five players from the run on team two years ago are in the starting line up for this weekend."
Looking at the whole 23 it's a lot of turnover in 2 years too
1 Sam Prattley (Pakuranga)
2 Robbie Abel (College Rifles)
3 Marcel Renata (University)
4 Fa’atiga Lemalu (Papatoetoe)
5 Michael Fatialofa (Ponsonby)
6 Evan Olmstead (Suburbs)
7 Adrian Choat (Waitemata)
8 Akira Ioane (Ponsonby)
9 Jonathan Ruru (University)
10 Harry Plummer (Grammar TEC)
11 Salesi Rayasi (Marist)
12 TJ Faiane – Captain (Pakuranga)
13 Tumua Manu (College Rifles)
14 Melani Nanai (Manukau Rovers)
15 Jordan Trainor (Ponsonby)16 Mike Sosene-Feagai (Mt Wellington)
17 Jarred Adams (Suburbs)
18 Marco Fepulea’i (Ponsonby)
19 Taleni Seu (Grammar TEC)
20 Hoskins Sotutu (Marist)
21 Leon Fukofuka (Marist)
22 Daniel Kirkpatrick (University)
23 Caleb Clarke (Suburbs) -
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Here's the teams from last year's semi-final....
Tasman: David Havili (c),
Will Jordan, Leicester Fainga'anuku,Levi Aumua,Alex Nankivell, Mitch Hunt, Finlay Christie, Sione Havili,Liam Squire,Ethan Blackadder,Pari Pari Parkinson, Quin Strange,Tim Perry,Andrew Makalio,Tyrel Lomax. Reserves:Hugh Roach,Wyatt Crockett, Isaac Salmon, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta,Jordan Taufua,Uchida Keisuke, Tim O'Malley, Fetuli Paea.Auckland: Jordan Trainor,
Caleb Clarke, Tumua Manu,TJ Falane(c), Salesi Rayasi, Harry Plummer, Jonathan Ruru,Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa, Adrian Choat,Dalton Papalii, Scott Scratton,Jamie Lane,Alex Hodgman, Leni Apisai, Marcel Renata. Reserves:Robbie Abel, Jarred Adams,Marco Fepulea'i,Lyndon Dunshea,Akira Ioane,Danny Tusitala,Daniel Kirkpatrick, AJ Lam. -
Pretty much the team I was expecting for Tasman given the various injuries.
Getting Salmon back for Princep is a win. Tim O'Malley being fit is a win.
I was vaguely hoping we might get Makalio back, since I hadn't heard that he was completely gone for the season. A big lose.
Not sure who is fit among our locks, but I would have been inclined to play Cirikadaveta at blindside to give us more size against the lardy-arsed Aucklanders. In the regular season game they were just too big to deal with. Not a good match-up for Tasman.
However, with Choat, Jones and Tuipolotu in the loose forwards, maybe we can cope.
Big, big backs though. "Big Leicester" would only be "Medium-sized Leicester" at Auckland - maybe even "Little Leicester".
Rayasi is listed at 115kgs which is pretty much Jonah before breakfast.
Funaki, Hickey and Trainor can't come soon enough for me!
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With both team sheets out, the TAB has the following odds:
Auckland $1.60
Tasman $2.23Both teams have been rather inconsistent this year, so it's close to 50:50 for me. Auckland with a very slight edge due to playing at home.
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@Tim Those odds are probably fair.
In all seriousness, I think it is Auckland's to lose.
Home advantage is big and they dealt to us in no uncertain terms during the regular season. But, we were admittedly dogshit in that game - our talismanic captain had his worst game in probably five years. Mitch Hunt wasn't much better.
But, if they play close to their best, they will win. We won't contain their size.
However - if we were playing Waikato in Nelson this weekend, I'd have already had the champagne on ice.
If they give us the sort of headstart they gave Waikato, they might regret it. And if we're still in the game at the 60 minute mark, I'll like us quite a lot!
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Be interesting to see how many turn up for a free final.
I don't think this game has had near the same hype as the 2018 final.
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@Dice said in Premiership Final - Auckland v Tasman (Free entry):
Be interesting to see how many turn up for a free final.
I don't think this game has had near the same hype as the 2018 final.
It was 22k last time? I'm guessing it'll be about half that
Three reasons:
- Auckland's form going into the final isn't as good as 2018
- There was a huge gap back to the previous title
- Tasman doesn't interest the casual fans. Not a comment on the quality of the side, they are a good side obviously. I think there's ~4 other teams that would generate more interest amongst people that don't regularly attend NPC matches (Canterbury & Harbour in particular)
