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@stockcar86 said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
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FFS, don't these idiots know a piece of the Death Star when they see it?
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I remember this. Spooky as all hell at the time.
Would have been 11 and right into space stuff and aliens and shit.
But this was absolute headline news on TV One (I think we did have more than one channel by then ... and colour TV ... ), and the various newspapers.
Obviously amounted to nothing as we haven't been invaded as yet ... or have we?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12168568
A coupla thunks:
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Liked the TV One journo's comment: "I note that the number of UFO sightings has greatly diminished since video and digital cameras and phone cameras have became readily available. "
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Can't remember whether it was the Herald or Dominion who published a cartoon showing Wellington Airport radar picking up an unidentified Santa ... thought it was amusing.
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@booboo I remember it, and I worked with / for a couple of the guys involved in the mid "90's. Perfectly sensible people.
This summed it up for me:
""I got over it. Have I ever seen anything like that again? No I haven't. Do I believe in UFOs? No I don't. Pilots see a lot of unidentified flying things. "Would I tell anyone if I saw anything like that again? No I wouldn't. It's not worth the hassle." -
@snowy interesting, I see no reason not to believe that there is other life out there, big ol' universe out there...the only thing would be that surely they'd have made contact by now, although if they see the shit that is going down now (environmental, PCness) maybe the sightings are just pick ups?
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@No-Quarter said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
One thing the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories never mention is the ongoing law suits the victims families (who are apparently all just actors) have against Alex Jones.
This is good to see.
Its worth reading this to get an idea of the damage conspiracy tards can do
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So then, where do we stand on the Madeleine McCann disappearance? Do we believe the Portuguese police? Or do we believe the U.K. tabs? We’ll likely never know, but I still can’t help thinking it was the twins. But seriously, the parents are up to their elbows in this aren’t they? Kidnapped by paedos and sold into child sex slavery? I don’t think so. My guess is an “accidental” death and a cover-up disposing of the body, What’s the feeling in the U.K. with regular folk?
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
So then, where do we stand on the Madeleine McCann disappearance? Do we believe the Portuguese police? Or do we believe the U.K. tabs? We’ll likely never know, but I still can’t help thinking it was the twins. But seriously, the parents are up to their elbows in this aren’t they? Kidnapped by paedos and sold into child sex slavery? I don’t think so. My guess is an “accidental” death and a cover-up disposing of the body, What’s the feeling in the U.K. with regular folk?
I can't see any other explanation other than the kidnapped and sold. Nothing else makes any sort of logistical,or common, sense.
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@MajorRage said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
I can't see any other explanation other than the kidnapped and sold. Nothing else makes any sort of logistical,or common, sense.
The Portuguese police have long suspected Maddie was sedated — parents are doctors, they’d had resort neighbors complain when Maddie was wailing for hours unattended the days prior, zero babysitter, so they wanted her to clam up and let parents enjoy themselves at the Tapas bar. If discovered, they would not only have accidentally lost a child, but their careers would have been destroyed. Cadaver and blood dogs independently found traces of both in that room, and the trunk of a rental car. Doesn’t mean parents are guilty, But the theory is not implausible, and indeed does make some logistical sense.
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Lyndon LaRouche, one of the all time greats, has passed on at 96. Queen Elizabeth finally got her man.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
@MajorRage said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
I can't see any other explanation other than the kidnapped and sold. Nothing else makes any sort of logistical,or common, sense.
The Portuguese police have long suspected Maddie was sedated — parents are doctors, they’d had resort neighbors complain when Maddie was wailing for hours unattended the days prior, zero babysitter, so they wanted her to clam up and let parents enjoy themselves at the Tapas bar. If discovered, they would not only have accidentally lost a child, but their careers would have been destroyed. Cadaver and blood dogs independently found traces of both in that room, and the trunk of a rental car. Doesn’t mean parents are guilty, But the theory is not implausible, and indeed does make some logistical sense.
Occam's Razor in this one I think. Way too many assumptions and complications over and above the simplest explanation.
Child is missing = child wandered off or child abducted (or combination of the two) in most instances
Child is missing = accidental death followed by perfect cover up and disposal of body (and wider group conspiracy) thought out on the spot? Not the most plausible.
One only has to look at the physical environment to see that where the families were staying was a near perfect set up for an abduction. Regular behaviours could be observed and the apartment itself would be the easiest target to both enter and exit.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
@MajorRage said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
I can't see any other explanation other than the kidnapped and sold. Nothing else makes any sort of logistical,or common, sense.
The Portuguese police have long suspected Maddie was sedated — parents are doctors, they’d had resort neighbors complain when Maddie was wailing for hours unattended the days prior, zero babysitter, so they wanted her to clam up and let parents enjoy themselves at the Tapas bar. If discovered, they would not only have accidentally lost a child, but their careers would have been destroyed. Cadaver and blood dogs independently found traces of both in that room, and the trunk of a rental car. Doesn’t mean parents are guilty, But the theory is not implausible, and indeed does make some logistical sense.
That maybe true, but there's a huge difference between this, and any sort of culpability in her disappearance. The 'Tapas 7' would all have be borderline psychopathic to be able to maintain an ongoing lie for so long without tripping themselves up or folding - especially over a subject matter which could arguably claim to be the most emotive thing on the planet - the disappearance/loss of a 3 year old child.
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@MajorRage there seems to be too many people involved to keep it a secret. Generally the less the better. Take the Ramsey killing of the child pageant queen in the basement of her home. The parents swore ignorance and now the mother is dead. Even now there is gossip that suggested the older brother might have killed her accidentally and the parents protected him. If it's true the Ramsays aren't talking
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These posts made me have a little read and revisit of the case and one thing stood out the really screws up the Tapas 7 conspiracy theory.
One of the Tapas 7 provided evidence that would have supported the abduction theory while Maddie's own father and an independent witness provided evidence that she was mistaken.
So the argument must go that Maddie's dad tried to scuttle a line of inquiry that supported the very premise he would be trying to promote AND convinced a random other to back him up before the evidence even came to light.
To top that off the evidence (man seen carrying child) proved to be correct but not Maddie and an abductor.
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@Crucial said in Your favourite conspiracy theories:
Occam's Razor in this one I think. Way too many assumptions and complications over and above the simplest explanation.
Child is missing = child wandered off or child abducted (or combination of the two) in most instances
Child is missing = accidental death followed by perfect cover up and disposal of body (and wider group conspiracy) thought out on the spot? Not the most plausible.
I kind of go the opposite way on that in terms of Occam's Razor:
Child is missing = Parents are involved.
Child is missing = Intricately planned abduction with days of reconnaissance or opportunist abduction that leaves no trace of evidence.Naturally in any attempt to cover something up things are going to be complicated, but like the Bain case it's a question of would a random person mass murder the family at 6am in the morning or was it someone within the home? The fact that David did a bunch wacky stuff to obfuscate evidence after the fact doesn't mean the simplest explanation isn't that it was him. Same principle here.
That said, I'm not really sure either way.
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