Zac Guildford

[Canes4life]

Yikes.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/124025178/zac-guildford-named-as-former-all-black-sentenced-for-punching-woman-in-the-face-in-appalling-act

[Machpants]

@canes4life I had him in mind, or Kelleher, the entire time it was under name suppression. What a wasted life

[Bovidae]

Stuff actually reported it was Guildford months ago before the name suppression kicked in and they amended their article, so it wasn't a secret.

[MN5]

What a complete fluffybunny he is

[Stargazer]

Mental illness causes many victims, and unfortunately some of those victims also cause other victims. It's bloody awful.

Each time, I hope he'll manage to deal with it better and not drink, but as with many others with mental illness and addictions, he'll relapse.

Being well-known in NZ certainly doesn't help. It's a fish bowl. There are horrible people on social media. If I were him, I'd stay off them for a few months at least.

He's been doing really good work in mental health, including for his new employer, so it's good they'll keep him on and let him continue.

[Gunner]

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

[mariner4life]

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

so much this.

I've played with a bunch. I was mates with a few of them.

The usual refrain is "well it's up to you to pull them in to line" is usually trotted out. Which is all well and good until that just makes them turn on you. And so it becomes easier to just avoid the issue while said fuck head does his usual thing

Most grow out of it. Sadly not all.

[Yeetyaah]

Alcohol does fucked up things to people and it's one of the most dangerous drugs here as we have a shit drinking culture.

I obviously believe people can drink and be fine but some people become dangerous when they drink. I have a mate who I don't drink with anymore as he's always an asshole when he drinks and has been arrested before when we were drinking so I don't drink with him anymore.

I feel for the dude as it's obviously mental health issues in conjunction with alcohol but there's no excuse. We saw the same thing with Selby-Rickit.

[Gunner]

Pretty fair comments.

I see no reason why a sportsperson should be treated any different to a Joe Bloggs who breaks the law and is therefore prevented travelling to other countries for work or leisure.

You make the bed, you lie in it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300282963/zac-guildfords-naming-a-line-in-the-sand-for-badly-behaved-sportsmen

[Kiwiwomble]

@gunner yeah, ive always struggled with the "may affect future employment" idea...yeah...thats the punishment

[Siam]

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

Ridiculous statement. Virtue signalling. There are prisons with women who have stabbed people to death. Why separate women from people?

Of course I don't agree with indiscriminate violence against anybody but to suggest there are no self defence situations involving women is blatant old style misogyny.

[MN5]

@kiwiwomble said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner yeah, ive always struggled with the "may affect future employment" idea...yeah...thats the punishment

Not to mention he has a rap sheet that would make a league player blush. When will he ever learn ?

[Kirwan]

@siam said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

Ridiculous statement. Virtue signalling. There are prisons with women who have stabbed people to death. Why separate women from people?

Of course I don't agree with indiscriminate violence against anybody but to suggest there are no self defence situations involving women is blatant old style misogyny.

Bill Burr does a good bit on that topic.

[MN5]

@siam said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

@siam said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

Ridiculous statement. Virtue signalling. There are prisons with women who have stabbed people to death. Why separate women from people?

Of course I don't agree with indiscriminate violence against anybody but to suggest there are no self defence situations involving women is blatant old style misogyny.

I got physically attacked by a crazy bitch at the Auckland Casino once. It was quite bizarre and whilst I did feel like smacking her right in the chops I did the wise thing and held her at bay with my reach and signalled to security who kindly threw her out.

I’m such an old fashioned gentleman.

[Bones]

@mn5 said in Zac Guildford:

@siam said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

@siam said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

Ridiculous statement. Virtue signalling. There are prisons with women who have stabbed people to death. Why separate women from people?

Of course I don't agree with indiscriminate violence against anybody but to suggest there are no self defence situations involving women is blatant old style misogyny.

I got physically attacked by a crazy bitch at the Auckland Casino once. It was quite bizarre and whilst I did feel like smacking her right in the chops I did the wise thing and held her at bay with my reach and signalled to security who kindly threw her out.

I’m such an old fashioned gentleman.

It's mother's day in a couple of weeks huh?

[MajorRage]

@siam said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

Ridiculous statement. Virtue signalling. There are prisons with women who have stabbed people to death. Why separate women from people?

Of course I don't agree with indiscriminate violence against anybody but to suggest there are no self defence situations involving women is blatant old style misogyny.

I do often wonder how far away we are from laws crimes against woman (violence etc) being evened up in the interest of equality.

[MN5]

@bones said in Zac Guildford:

@mn5 said in Zac Guildford:

@siam said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

@siam said in Zac Guildford:

@gunner said in Zac Guildford:

Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves booze?

There is no excuse for hitting a woman. None. Bloody cowardly behaviour.
But he clearly has a problem, as he has form for doing really really dumb shit while on the piss.

I bet every rugby club social group in the country has a 'Zac Guilford' amongst them. Real nice guy when sober, get a couple of beers into them and they turn into absolute maggots.

Guildford is one of thousands of drunken boofheads in this country, so the problem is bigger then just Zac Guilford.

What to do? No idea. That's why I'm not a politician.

Edit: I see now, he was extremely intoxicated.

Ridiculous statement. Virtue signalling. There are prisons with women who have stabbed people to death. Why separate women from people?

Of course I don't agree with indiscriminate violence against anybody but to suggest there are no self defence situations involving women is blatant old style misogyny.

I got physically attacked by a crazy bitch at the Auckland Casino once. It was quite bizarre and whilst I did feel like smacking her right in the chops I did the wise thing and held her at bay with my reach and signalled to security who kindly threw her out.

I’m such an old fashioned gentleman.

It's mother's day in a couple of weeks huh?

Ok

[Siam]

@majorrage the thought of Rhonda Rousey or Amanda Nunes types being protected by the law is frightening😁

[Victor Meldrew]

@mn5 said in Zac Guildford:

I got physically attacked by a crazy bitch at the Auckland Casino once. It was quite bizarre and whilst I did feel like smacking her right in the chops I did the wise thing and held her at bay with my reach and signalled to security who kindly threw her out.

I had two women fight each other in a business meeting once. Bloody scary - didn't have a clue how to respond.

I’m such an old fashioned gentleman.

I just shouted "help" and let the other women at the meeting sort it out.

[Victor Meldrew]

@stargazer said in Zac Guildford:

Mental illness causes many victims, and unfortunately some of those victims also cause other victims. It's bloody awful.
Each time, I hope he'll manage to deal with it better and not drink, but as with many others with mental illness and addictions, he'll relapse.

Great post.

Yeah, Mental illness is a life-long struggle with ups and downs. Not excusing his behavior, but wish him well in his fight.

Being well-known in NZ certainly doesn't help. It's a fish bowl.

I have a famous sporting cousin and the fish-bowl almost wrecked her marriage and damaged her health. And that was in pre-Social Media days.