Protein shakes

Have tried a couple to date and was wondering whether others had suggestions: 
 
SlimWhey - designed for the low-carb market I picked some up as it was half price. Mocha flavour was alright, and easy to mix with milk or water. High protein, being about 73% from memory, but believe they've gone out of business in Australia and are no longer distributed. Bugger 
 
Aussie Bodies' "Perfect Protein" - this one is utter shit. Protein content is good at 75.4% but it just won't dissolve sufficiently in milk OR water. Tastes like crap as well and I'm sorry I paid full price for it. Am consuming it with haste so I can move onto something else. 
 
 
I also saw some of the Atkins' Advantage stuff which is for the carb-free freaks among us. Watch out for this stuff as it has a fat content of close to 45%!!!!

Milk

Glad someone bought these up. I was using protein shakes for a few months, but quit because it was too expensive. I honestly can't say whether it was doing anything or not. For all I know I was using it wrong. Sometimes it feels like you need another bloody degree to practice good nutrition. There are so many differing views out there, and it seems to get pretty complicated. 
 
I was looking to lose weight, and wouldn't have said no to more muscle mass. I was recommended protein shakes as, amoung other reasons, apparently it helps muscle repair and growth. 
 
Anyone got any views on how necessary and helpful protein shakes are? 
 
PS. I was using Devine Protein, and while I don't know how effective it was, it mixed really bloody well and tasted really good.

Milk - for me its a matter of making sure my diet has enough protein to do the muscle repair and enhancement stuff as the more lean muscle mass you have, generally the faster your metabolism is (provided you're using it) 
 
But also very important is holding back cravings. If you eat sufficient protein you're unlikely to snack or end up eating foods which are high in carbs and more readily available that seriously proteinous stuff. One theory is you should have about 30% protein in your diet but as you said - those shakes can get bloody expensive.... 
 
Also watch out for the body builder supplements - they are usually carb-loaded in addition to protein and unless you're pumping serious iron you may not get a lot out of it.

Phreakboy

I have used a couple over the years.Â I need to otherwise I end up losing weight. 
 
if you are trying to lose weight I'd suggest limiting the extra protein intake in your diet.Â A well balanced diet will fulfill most prerequisites and body needs. 
 
However, the best ones i have found are: 
 
ASN (currently using) - Have found this really good and have added about 3kg in the last seven weeks.Â I am also on creatine though so some of that gain will be water retention.Â Tastes ok and mixes well.Â I add banana and berries to the shake in the morning and generally have a few berries with it in the evening as well.Â I also use their creatine and think it is the best I have used as it disolves easily, tastes ok (as much as that satuff can) and I am really feeling the affects from it. 
 
Aussie Bodies - I really like these guys Protein FX bars.Â Good for a snack on the run or when you don't have the facilities to make a good shake.Â really easy to get at most supermarkets as well.Â Agree that their protein powder is rubbish.Â 
 
EAS - haven't used their stuff for a whil but used it religiously when I used to do track.Â Always good quality and very popular with sports people.

[quote name='Phreakboy'] 
Aussie Bodies - I really like these guys Protein FX bars.[/quote] 
 
Yeah they are pretty bloody good and I think I need to see if I can get some in bulk to cut the cost....

Phreakboy

[quote]Yeah they are pretty bloody good and I think I need to see if I can get some in bulk to cut the cost....[/quote] 
 
They do sell them in boxes on the Aussie Bodies website (aussiebodies.com.au) but it is out of order at the moment.Â The online store that is. 
 
They are certainly not cheap.

Milk

Dragging up this old tread again... 
 
Longer distance running makes you lose muscle mass right? 
If so, would protein shakes help keep it on? 
If anyone's got some insight that would be great. 
 
I'm thinking of doing a half marathon in August and have to start training.

Well protein is for muscles generally Milk, as well as being an energy source, so it couldn't hurt.

Milk

I was talking to some guy at the gym who rated fat mobilisers or something similar. Said it was quite good for improving definition. 
Any one had any experience with those?

Bones

[quote name='Milk'] 
I was talking to some guy at the gym who rated fat mobilisers or something similar. Said it was quite good for improving definition. 
Any one had any experience with those? 
[/quote]L-Carnitine?

Milk

He couldn't remember what it was called, but he said it was herbal (apparently), and helped increase the amount of fat cells you burnt. I think there quite common.

BartMan

Gaurana - natural ephadra or something like that.Â excuse spelling!

[quote name='Milk'] 
He couldn't remember what it was called, but he said it was herbal (apparently), and helped increase the amount of fat cells you burnt. I think there quite common. 
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If you go into a health food/vitamin shop they should have something nicknamed "Cuts" which supposedly prevents fat from being digested as well as encouraging your body to metabolise it as the first energy source. I tried it in my youth but didn't notice a difference really, though you may get different results.

Milk

Sounds interesting. Might look into it a bit further.

Milk

Here's some 
 
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[b]Thermo DynamX [/b] actually works by increasing your bodyâ€™s metabolism so you burn more calories. It acts on the receptors that determine metabolic rate and temperature and amps them up so that you not only burn more energy while you exercise, you'll burn fat while you go about your normal day to day activities! It truly is your 'total body transformation solution' and results are guaranteed.

Mojoman

Redbak and Musashi are my favourite.Â Only because they taste best and dissolve best in water.Â 
 
Agree with NTA about Perfect Protein..mostly drinking clumps of powder with milk.

I tried a sampler the other day for this stuff called WheyGourmet - it tastes fucking awesome but is a bit pricey.

Rancid Schnitzel

[quote name='Nick the Aussie'] 
I tried a sampler the other day for this stuff called WheyGourmet - it tastes fucking awesome but is a bit pricey. 
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Not really a protein shake and I'm not sure if it's available in NZ or OZ but Nutrilet is what I drink. It's high in protein and low in fat so is perfect for the fatties. Personally I think it tastes good and is excellent to have if I'm feeling peckish.

They will probably have something similar Rancid - can you post up the profile of the drink (protein, fat and carbs per 100g) and manufacturer? Might also be worth listing ingredients if you could....

Rancid Schnitzel

[quote name='Nick the Aussie'] 
They will probably have something similar Rancid - can you post up the profile of the drink (protein, fat and carbs per 100g) and manufacturer? Might also be worth listing ingredients if you could.... 
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No probs. It's in Norwegian but pretty easy to read:Â [url="http://www.nutrilett.no/sw3461.asp"]http://www.nutrilett.no/sw3461.asp[/url] 
 
Just read an article where they're planning to launch it in AUS through a company called Faulding. Not sure if that helps.

Groovy. Thanks.

phoenetia

i started making my own check this out [url="http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek37.htm"]http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek37.htm[/url]

jegga

There's a whey breakfast cereal coming out next year.Fonterra are producing it, when I hear more I'll post details.

Im taking EAS 100% Whey Protein.Â Two shakes per day.Â One scoop Whey (23 grams protein), 300 mls milk, blended with one banana and a small pot of yoghurt.Â Contents of shake equal about 40 grams protein.

Well, they had WheyGourmet on special (for members) at the local GNC Live Well shop, so I bought the Chocolate Mousse flavour - its quite frickin good in milk or water actually so that's what I'm on now. 70% protein and the taste is better than ANYTHING I've ever had in terms of protein shakes. 
 
But why use containers that big when they're only half-full when you open them?

Virgil

Anyone in NZ watching the diet programme on TV in place of close up?..Has a group of over weight people who each are placed on a different type of diet and weightloss programme.After the first weigh in the most successful one was a guy who takes protein shakes.The othersÂ were using weighter watchers points(doing wonders for the mrs),Atkins with no carbs,working out at the gym 6 times a week,and this guy who has a diet which is based on his blood type :nta..something ive never heard of before.

Bones

[quote name='virgil'] 
Anyone in NZ watching the diet programme on TV in place of close up?..Has a group of over weight people who each are placed on a different type of diet and weightloss programme.After the first weigh in the most successful one was a guy who takes protein shakes.The othersÂ were using weighter watchers points(doing wonders for the mrs),Atkins with no carbs,working out at the gym 6 times a week,and this guy who has a diet which is based on his blood type :nta..something ive never heard of before. 
[/quote]Saw a bit of it. Quiet funny to see how gutted him and the atkins lady were. Odd how he didn't really look overweight either, but was 6' and 100kg.

Virgil

[quote name='Bones'] 
[quote name='virgil'] 
Anyone in NZ watching the diet programme on TV in place of close up?..Has a group of over weight people who each are placed on a different type of diet and weightloss programme.After the first weigh in the most successful one was a guy who takes protein shakes.The othersÂ were using weighter watchers points(doing wonders for the mrs),Atkins with no carbs,working out at the gym 6 times a week,and this guy who has a diet which is based on his blood type :nta..something ive never heard of before. 
[/quote]Saw a bit of it. Quiet funny to see how gutted him and the atkins lady were. Odd how he didn't really look overweight either, but was 6' and 100kg. 
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I thought i was the onyl one who noticed that!..watching his profile and thinking ok wheres the fat! 
Felt sorry for the huge guy,first he was too big for the scales and then the fancy machine that runs a scan to determine your body fat was unable to fully scan him as he was too round in the middle.Plus the poor bastard has to give up red meat

[quote name='virgil'] 
Plus the poor bastard has to give up red meat 
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<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> If I ever get that fat then I'll just kill myself...

Bones

[quote name='NTA'] 
[quote name='virgil'] 
Plus the poor bastard has to give up red meat 
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<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> If I ever get that fat then I'll just kill myself... 
[/quote] <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> 
Wasn't quite like that - was a diet type that he had to go on.

Virgil

[quote name='Bones'] 
[quote name='NTA'] 
[quote name='virgil'] 
Plus the poor bastard has to give up red meat 
[/quote] 
 
<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> If I ever get that fat then I'll just kill myself... 
[/quote] <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> 
Wasn't quite like that - was a diet type that he had to go on. 
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The show is on now,that guy who doesnt seem over weight and is on the protein shake diet lost over 7kg in two weeks,which is pretty hard out.Everyone else lost from less than 1 kg up to 1.5kg.

Is he using them as actual meal replacement? I don't dig that really... 
 
I only ever use protein shakes directly after exercise - stick back in 20 grams of protein mixed with 500ml of water, then have another 500ml water to finish off. Good for tidying up the fluid loss.

Milk

[quote name='Red Beard'] 
Im taking EAS 100% Whey Protein.Â Two shakes per day.Â One scoop Whey (23 grams protein), 300 mls milk, blended with one banana and a small pot of yoghurt.Â Contents of shake equal about 40 grams protein. 
[/quote] 
 
Exactly the same thing I use. Good with water, but delicious with milk. Huge fark off container- hardly subtle sitting in you kitchen though.

Virgil

[quote name='NTA'] 
Is he using them as actual meal replacement? I don't dig that really... 
 
I only ever use protein shakes directly after exercise - stick back in 20 grams of protein mixed with 500ml of water, then have another 500ml water to finish off. Good for tidying up the fluid loss. 
[/quote] 
 
Seems to be,the guys actually over doing it,not so much with the shakes but with the exercise.He lost alot of weight in the first couple weeks,the 'experts' on the show started showing their concern with his big weightloss..funny considering the show comes across as a contest to see which diet plan worksÂ best.

They reckon healthy weight loss is about 1kg per week at most, but it depends what sort of shape you're in. If you're a big fat bastard like me then you could conceivably lose 4kg in the first fortnight just through fluid loss via exercise and eating smart. When I did Atkins (briefly) I lost 3kg in the first week! Lost 1kg per week after that but I couldn't deal with the headaches from carb and sugar withdrawal and quit after a month.

Virgil

[quote name='NTA'] 
They reckon healthy weight loss is about 1kg per week at most, but it depends what sort of shape you're in. If you're a big fat bastard like me then you could conceivably lose 4kg in the first fortnight just through fluid loss via exercise and eating smart. When I did Atkins (briefly) I lost 3kg in the first week! Lost 1kg per week after that but I couldn't deal with the headaches from carb and sugar withdrawal and quit after a month. 
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You do often loss a shit load of weight in the first few weeks,we also have the biggest losser australian version on tv here..theres a guy who keeps lossing around 5 or 6kg's every week <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />..they always say you should loss weight at the same rate you put it on.Saves on being stuck with all that flabby skin.

CattquotBuffyquot

[quote name='Nick the Aussie'] 
Milk - for me its a matter of making sure my diet has enough protein to do the muscle repair and enhancement stuff as the more lean muscle mass you have, generally the faster your metabolism is (provided you're using it) 
 
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does it have to be full fat milk?

Milk

[quote name='Catt \"Buffy\"'] 
[quote name='"Nick the Aussie":2qct4y2y'] 
Milk - for me its a matter of making sure my diet has enough protein to do the muscle repair and enhancement stuff as the more lean muscle mass you have, generally the faster your metabolism is (provided you're using it) 
 
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does it have to be full fat milk? 
[/quote:2qct4y2y] 
 
I ask the same question myself. I don't believe so, but sometimes it seems no matter what I do I'm destined for chubbiness.

No it doesn't - in fact I've just switched over to using water and the taste is almost as good.

Virgil

Excuse my ignorance but taking these protein shakes,are they a food substitute?..what effect does it have on your hunger and are you supposed to avoid certain types of food when your on them?

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