10. 2021 First Five-eighth
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Who 10ed best.
Please nominate, and say why.Refer rules in Sports Talk forum.
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Surname First Name Country Pros Cons BARRETT Beauden NZL Played well in underperforming team; better than Mo’unga better than Mo’unga COOPER Quade AUS Calm, controlled, smart; keeps the ball in front of his team; picks his passes, kicks from hand well, even does physical things like take the line on, make tackles, and hit rucks; kicks his goals; remarkable late career turnaround Quade Cooper NTAMACK Romaine FRA turned AB match with escape from in-goal; has skills to run team; stand out in current crop;great against ABs not a standout current crop; only 1.5games in 6N; France lost the one game he started in 6N RUSSELL Finn SCO Has time on his hands with the ball like only the truly great do; SMITH Marcus ENG joy to watch; anti ten man rugby fly half; steered the foundering ship that was Harlequins to the Premiership title; made his England debut; got a Lions call up; has cemented his place at 10 for England Only played two tests; too early for Smith;nominator would vote for Ntamack -
never, ever thought i would make this nomination, but
2021 Quade Cooper
Calm, controlled, smart. Keeps the ball in front of his team, picks his passes, kicks from hand well, even does physical things like take the line on, make tackles, and hit rucks. Kicks his goals
One of the more remarkable late career turnarounds you will ever see.
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Marcus Smith, just a joy to watch. The anti teen man rugby fly half
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Romain Ntamack, that escape from his in goal is worth a nom and he just looks like he has the skills to run a team well.
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@chimoaus said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
Romain Ntamack, that escape from his in goal is worth a nom and he just looks like he has the skills to run a team well.
Not a vintage crop of international 10s at the moment but he's the stand out
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Finn Russell. Has time on his hands with the ball like only the truly great do.
Not saying he's necessarily a truly great, but he has that attribute.
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Ntamack. This poll has come too early for Smith/Eddie didn’t pick him soon enough.
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@catogrande said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
Ntamack. This poll has come too early for Smith/Eddie didn’t pick him soon enough.
Excuse my ignorance. How much did Smith play? Also form in Club footy is admissible as evidence.
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@booboo said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
@catogrande said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
Ntamack. This poll has come too early for Smith/Eddie didn’t pick him soon enough.
Excuse my ignorance. How much did Smith play? Also form in Club footy is admissible as evidence.
Ok fuck it, I’ll nominate Smith then. Steered the foundering ship that was Harlequins to the Premiership title, made his England debut, got a Lions call up and has cemented his place at 10 for England.
He has my nomination but I’ll likely vote for Ntamack 😀
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@catogrande said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
@booboo said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
@catogrande said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
Ntamack. This poll has come too early for Smith/Eddie didn’t pick him soon enough.
Excuse my ignorance. How much did Smith play? Also form in Club footy is admissible as evidence.
Ok fuck it, I’ll nominate Smith then. Steered the foundering ship that was Harlequins to the Premiership title, made his England debut, got a Lions call up and has cemented his place at 10 for England.
He has my nomination but I’ll likely vote for Ntamack 😀
You're actually seconding @Machpants
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Beauden Barrett, of New Zealand. Played pretty good in a team with no plan.
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@delicatessen said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
Beauden Barrett, of New Zealand. Played pretty good in a team with no plan.
There is a plan. It’s called give it to Barrett.
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@catogrande said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
@delicatessen said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
Beauden Barrett, of New Zealand. Played pretty good in a team with no plan.
There is a plan. It’s called give it to Barrett.
Any Barrett. The nearest Barrett.
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@catogrande How many tests did Ntamack play this year? He was great against AB's but I don't remember him in 6N.
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Surprisingly to me, you are correct. Mind you these last couple of years seem to have blended.
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I only saw N'tamack in 1 test, so couldn't really say him. Like the look of Smith from Pommyland, but what I saw this year, Cooper was ok for Wallabies, and looked even better because of absolutely no competition for spot in Aus.
For ABs, although at start of season I would of said Mounga, but BB has certainly overtaken him with time in the 10 shirt, and RM just hasn't really taken his game to next level at tets as yet.
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@mariner4life said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
never, ever thought i would make this nomination, but
2021 Quade Cooper
Calm, controlled, smart. Keeps the ball in front of his team, picks his passes, kicks from hand well, even does physical things like take the line on, make tackles, and hit rucks. Kicks his goals
One of the more remarkable late career turnarounds you will ever see.
I tend to agree, he was really composed in a team that is known for panicking. He didn't play the ABs, or on the EOYT, but when he was on the park he transformed the Wallabies. With Kerevi outside him they were a real force.
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Ntamack by a country mile. He was very good during the 6N, walked on the water in the Top 14 and was decisive against the ABs.
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@cgrant said in 10. 2021 First Five-eighth:
Ntamack by a country mile. He was very good during the 6N, walked on the water in the Top 14 and was decisive against the ABs.
Whilst I agree with his nomination, he did only play one and a half games in the 6N this year and the one game he started, they lost.
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Vote above for the below.
(Table may need scrolling... )
Surname First Name Country Pros Cons BARRETT Beauden NZL Played well in underperforming team; better than Mo’unga better than Mo’unga COOPER Quade AUS Calm, controlled, smart; keeps the ball in front of his team; picks his passes, kicks from hand well, even does physical things like take the line on, make tackles, and hit rucks; kicks his goals; remarkable late career turnaround Quade Cooper NTAMACK Romaine FRA turned AB match with escape from in-goal; has skills to run team; stand out in current crop;great against ABs not a standout current crop; only 1.5games in 6N; France lost the one game he started in 6N RUSSELL Finn SCO Has time on his hands with the ball like only the truly great do; SMITH Marcus ENG joy to watch; anti ten man rugby fly half; steered the foundering ship that was Harlequins to the Premiership title; made his England debut; got a Lions call up; has cemented his place at 10 for England Only played two tests; too early for Smith;nominator would vote for Ntamack
