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    • Tim
      Tim last edited by

      Players who try to look hard, or talk a big game, but fall short. Bonus points for cheap shots and picking on halfbacks.

      Some nominations:

      Ali Williams
      Dominic Bird
      Michael Brial
      Nathan Grey
      Bakkies Botha
      Ellis Genge
      Kyle Sinckler
      James Haskell
      Shannon Frizzell

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      • Kiwiwomble
        Kiwiwomble last edited by Kiwiwomble

        Jarrad Hoeata
        sio tomkinson

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        • Toddy
          Toddy last edited by

          Justin Harrison

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          • Duluth
            Duluth @Tim last edited by

            @tim said in Would-be hardmen thread:

            Shannon Frizzell

            Shannon's response:
            "Fuck you bitch tell your friend to hide I’m gonna fuck everyone’s up fuck with the wrong guy"

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            • Toddy
              Toddy last edited by

              Zac Guildford
              Akira Ioane
              Rieko Ioane

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              • MN5
                MN5 @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                @kiwiwomble said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                Jarrad Hoeata
                sio tomkinson

                Close the thread now.

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                • dogmeat
                  dogmeat last edited by

                  Andy Haden

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                  • Tim
                    Tim @dogmeat last edited by

                    @dogmeat Was sure you were going to post Dick Fromont, but you are getting on.

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                    • Bovidae
                      Bovidae last edited by

                      If Frizell counts so does Jamie Joseph. He did stomp on Bracken's ankle. Squire with his high shots. Plenty of Highlanders' 6s. 😉

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                      • Hooroo
                        Hooroo last edited by

                        Every Halfback

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                        • Tim
                          Tim @Hooroo last edited by

                          @hooroo Joost van der Westhuizen was a big fan of throwing punches when he was behind a ruck.

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                          • Nepia
                            Nepia @Tim last edited by

                            @tim said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                            picking on halfbacks.

                            I don't understand this bonus points system, surely this is a good thing? Wouldn't they lose points for it?

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                              bayimports @Nepia last edited by

                              @nepia said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                              @tim said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                              picking on halfbacks.

                              I don't understand this bonus points system, surely this is a good thing? Wouldn't they lose points for it?

                              Im with you, those mouthy failed jockeys deserve belting

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                                bayimports last edited by

                                Robin Brooke

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                                  KiwiMurph last edited by

                                  Liam Squire

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                                  • Tim
                                    Tim @bayimports last edited by

                                    @bayimports He was definitely a bully, but he could foot it with the best of them, and consistently delivered on the field. Late career fades don't count.

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                                      bayimports @Tim last edited by

                                      @tim I saw him as a spectacular athelete with grid iron like passes his repertoire, but not really as hardman unless sexual harrassment in fiji counts

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                                        • Tim
                                          Tim last edited by

                                          Phil Waugh

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                                          • Nepia
                                            Nepia @bayimports last edited by

                                            @bayimports said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                            @tim I saw him as a spectacular athelete with grid iron like passes his repertoire, but not really as hardman unless sexual harrassment in fiji counts

                                            I think we need to define hardman for the purpose of this thread, but, in the early 90s he definitely brought a hard edge to the pack, plus you wouldn't want to get in a scrap with the three Brooke bros back in the day.

                                            Brendon Cannon (I think) must be in the frame for his wuss punch on Kev.

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                                            • dogmeat
                                              dogmeat @Tim last edited by

                                              @tim same era - Blair Larsen

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                                                bayimports @Nepia last edited by

                                                @nepia said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                @bayimports said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                @tim I saw him as a spectacular athelete with grid iron like passes his repertoire, but not really as hardman unless sexual harrassment in fiji counts

                                                I think we need to define hardman for the purpose of this thread, but, in the early 90s he definitely brought a hard edge to the pack, plus you wouldn't want to get in a scrap with the three Brooke bros back in the day.

                                                Brendon Cannon (I think) must be in the frame for his wuss punch on Kev.

                                                agree hard edge - but Tim wants people that pciked on half backs etc, which like most locks he did in spades and I respected that, his brothers were what I would call hard (and you wouldnt take them on as a group) , at any rate it is all subjective at best

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                                                • MN5
                                                  MN5 @Nepia last edited by

                                                  @nepia said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                  @bayimports said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                  @tim I saw him as a spectacular athelete with grid iron like passes his repertoire, but not really as hardman unless sexual harrassment in fiji counts

                                                  I think we need to define hardman for the purpose of this thread, but, in the early 90s he definitely brought a hard edge to the pack, plus you wouldn't want to get in a scrap with the three Brooke bros back in the day.

                                                  Brendon Cannon (I think) must be in the frame for his wuss punch on Kev.

                                                  Wasn’t really a wuss punch, it just didn’t drop him that was all.

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                                                  • Nepia
                                                    Nepia @dogmeat last edited by

                                                    @dogmeat said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                    @tim same era - Blair Larsen

                                                    Wasn't he cop? He probably did bash a few heads in the job back in the day.

                                                    Ian Jones been mentioned yet?

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                                                    • dogmeat
                                                      dogmeat @Nepia last edited by

                                                      @nepia Yeah Larsen was a beat cop in Takapuna.

                                                      I can't remember Kamo ever being involved in anything?

                                                      Back in the mists of time Grant Batty was an angry little man. Would run halfway across the field to get involved in a bit of biff. Even though he would have need a step ladder in order to connect. Definitely compensating...

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                                                      • Tim
                                                        Tim @dogmeat last edited by

                                                        @dogmeat said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                        I can't remember Kamo ever being involved in anything?

                                                        Yeah, never saw Jones try it on. Bad call from @Nepia

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                                                        • Nepia
                                                          Nepia @dogmeat last edited by

                                                          @dogmeat said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                          I can't remember Kamo ever being involved in anything?

                                                          I thought it was common knowledge he was a dirty fucker in mauls and scrums? I've been told by two ABs, one who was a teammate of his.

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                                                            bayimports last edited by

                                                            Sir Richie would probably suggest Quade for this thread

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                                                            • MN5
                                                              MN5 @bayimports last edited by

                                                              @bayimports said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                              Sir Richie would probably suggest Quade for this thread

                                                              Yeah but anyone who steps in a boxing ring deserves respect

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                                                              • Frank
                                                                Frank @Tim last edited by

                                                                @tim said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                Bakkies Botha

                                                                What?

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                                                                • Mick Gold Coast QLD
                                                                  Mick Gold Coast QLD @Nepia last edited by

                                                                  @nepia said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                  @bayimports said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                  Brendon Cannon (I think) must be in the frame for his wuss punch on Kev.

                                                                  Keven never even felt it, didn't notice it, kept on doing whatever he was doing uninterrupted - likely first knew about it when he saw the replay a week later! 🙂 😉

                                                                  The reality is Cannon hit him flush with a good right hook, shoulder behind it, that rocked Keven. He reckoned it sent him cross-eyed and he kept his feet only through the grappling that followed. As they were walking off to the sin bin Keven amused himself with the thought that he'd been yellow carded for copping a punch in the head!

                                                                  Mealamu confirmed they were lying on adjoining benches getting treated, talking about family. He played on. He had given Cannon a closed eye and some bloody cuts, and Brendan could not continue.

                                                                  His later advice to others was:

                                                                  "Don't go near his head'. I've proved that's ineffective. I haven't tested Kevvy's ribs yet so give them a go,"

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                                                                  • Tim
                                                                    Tim @Frank last edited by

                                                                    @frank Constant off the ball cheap shots on smaller players. Head butts on the ground.

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                                                                    • Frank
                                                                      Frank @Tim last edited by

                                                                      @tim said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                      @frank Constant off the ball cheap shots on smaller players. Head butts on the ground.

                                                                      Oh yeah...I guess.
                                                                      But he was hard as nails. Fearsome player.

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                                                                        Michael Brial

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                                                                        • Rancid Schnitzel
                                                                          Rancid Schnitzel @Tim last edited by

                                                                          @tim said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                          @dogmeat said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                          I can't remember Kamo ever being involved in anything?

                                                                          Yeah, never saw Jones try it on. Bad call from @Nepia

                                                                          Wasn't Jones involved in a punch up with Norm Hewitt at training? Norm came off second best iirc. Jones also had a scrap with John Eales and soundly beat the shit out of him. He may have looked like a weird gangly mofo but he was not one to be fůcked with.

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                                                                          • Rancid Schnitzel
                                                                            Rancid Schnitzel last edited by

                                                                            Wallaby prop Dan Crowley was a dirty cnut and cheapshot merchant. But he was a legit undercover cop and probably no coward. There were times he didn't have his picture in the match programs because they didn't want to reveal his identity.

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                                                                            • dogmeat
                                                                              dogmeat @Rancid Schnitzel last edited by

                                                                              @rancid-schnitzel It appears Jones definitely did have a bit of mongrel

                                                                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/121073542/springbok-opens-up-on-all-black-punch-that-ended-1995-world-cup-final

                                                                              also found an article that confirms Norm and Jones exchanged punches at a training session in Brisbane in 96

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                                                                              • MN5
                                                                                MN5 @Rancid Schnitzel last edited by MN5

                                                                                @rancid-schnitzel said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                                @tim said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                                @dogmeat said in Would-be hardmen thread:

                                                                                I can't remember Kamo ever being involved in anything?

                                                                                Yeah, never saw Jones try it on. Bad call from @Nepia

                                                                                Wasn't Jones involved in a punch up with Norm Hewitt at training? Norm came off second best iirc. Jones also had a scrap with John Eales and soundly beat the shit out of him. He may have looked like a weird gangly mofo but he was not one to be fůcked with.

                                                                                When did he beat up Eales ?

                                                                                I’d put money on Norm vs Jones, perhaps he was feeling a bit like a midweeker and didn’t want to get in trouble for bashing a test player ? In fact I’m sure I remember that was the case, the book is in storage and not available til next month so I’ll have a look then.

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                                                                                • mariner4life
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                                                                                  Eben Etzabitch loves to fight an outside back

                                                                                  All beach muscles no ticker.

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                                                                                  • MN5
                                                                                    MN5 last edited by MN5

                                                                                    Martin Johnson punched Justin Marshall from behind ( to be fair possibly knew what kind of commentator he would become ) and stood on Marty Leslies throat. Dirty, dirty fucker

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