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    • Canes4life
      Canes4life last edited by Duluth

      Hopefully this eventuates on Saturday.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/127920157/highlanders-midfielder-thomas-umagajensen-relishes-chance-to-line-up-hurricanes-twin-peter

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      • Bovidae
        Bovidae last edited by

        The ref is Brendon Pickerill.

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          foobaNZ last edited by

          Selection this week is going to be super interesting. Have the players finally forced Holland's hand into selecting the right 23?

          Probably not lol. I don't hold out hope.

          I hope we see Pasilio Tosi soon.

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          • Kiwiwomble
            Kiwiwomble last edited by Kiwiwomble

            Fakatava to start, so it begins!

            Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Tasman?

            continuity in the forwards, hope they all keep growing, learnt from last week and back to the 5/3 split

            always a little concerned when injury cover or a WTG player comes in to start, know nothing about Coombes-fabling

            alt text

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            • Tim
              Tim last edited by

              Be interesting to see how Ma'u goes.

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              • Duluth
                Duluth last edited by

                HURRICANES TEAM NAMED FOR HOME CLASH AGAINST THE HIGHLANDERS

                HURRICANES TEAM NAMED FOR HOME CLASH AGAINST THE HIGHLANDERS

                1 Pouri Rakete-Stones
                2 Asafo Aumua
                3 Tyrel Lomax
                4 James Blackwell
                5 Caleb Delany *
                6 Reed Prinsep
                7 Du’Plessis Kirifi
                8 Ardie Savea (c)
                9 Jamie Booth
                10 Ruben Love
                11 Salesi Rayasi
                12 Billy Proctor
                13 Bailyn Sullivan
                14 Julian Savea
                15 Jordie Barrett

                16 Siua Maile *
                17 Xavier Numia
                18 Tevita Mafileo
                19 Devan Flanders
                20 Brayden Iose
                21 Richard Judd
                22 Jackson Garden-Bachop
                23 Peter Umaga-Jensen

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                • Higgins
                  Higgins last edited by

                  Prize Pet Proctor has lost the number 13 jersey! Don't get your hopes up too high Hurricanes supporters as he is shoveled into the number 12 instead.

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                  • Yeetyaah
                    Yeetyaah last edited by

                    Iose deserves a start based on his recent form. Hopefully not another wasted benchwarmer for his while Canes career.

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                    • Canes4life
                      Canes4life last edited by Canes4life

                      Argh ffs Holland you really are a f&#kwit

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                        mikey07 last edited by

                        He really has no f**king idea does he PUJ has a strong game same with Wes oh no keep PUJ on the bench and no Goosen at all.

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                        • Kiwiwomble
                          Kiwiwomble last edited by

                          shit id love a win, another loss and i can see getting written off for th erest of the season

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                            mikey07 @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                            @kiwiwomble I kinda hope you do also just to put pressure on Holland BUT given mediocrity seems to be a job saver I doubt it.

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                            • Machpants
                              Machpants @Canes4life last edited by

                              @canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                              Argh ffs Holland you really are a f&#kwit

                              I just think his dice rolled that way, there is obviously no plan to hsi teams - they have to be random, with a few on loaded dice

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                              • FakatavaAllBlack
                                FakatavaAllBlack @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                @kiwiwomble love seeing Fakatava get the start , Coombes-fabling is the winger from Waikato with the head gear , dudes only like 80kg😅 he's very like for like for vili koroi

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                                • Canes4life
                                  Canes4life last edited by

                                  There’s way too much chopping and changing. It’s obvious to the fans who should be starting so why can’t Holland see it.

                                  Iose over Kirifi
                                  Flanders over Prinsep
                                  Goosen over Savea
                                  Umaga-Jensen over Proctor

                                  Ffs it’s not rocket science.

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                                  • gt12
                                    gt12 last edited by gt12

                                    Is Sangster injured? Kid has been great so better send him to the stands.

                                    Edit: they are going to be tiny if they lose Delaney.

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                                    • Canes4life
                                      Canes4life @gt12 last edited by Canes4life

                                      @gt12 apparently he has a few bumps and bruises.

                                      I rate Caleb and I’m stoked he’s been given a shot atleast.

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                                        mikey07 @Canes4life last edited by

                                        @canes4life Apparently not on the Hurricanes Facebook page they’re all singing his praises it’s quite sickening.

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                                          foobaNZ last edited by

                                          LOL man Holland is dense

                                          Where does he come up with these selections?

                                          I can't believe Goosen can't even make the 23.

                                          I don't think he's ever played Proctor at 12, but he is now. Why? Wtf? What about PUJ the guy who made the ABs at 12?

                                          Iose and Flanders should be starting - that is obvious

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                                          • Canes4life
                                            Canes4life @mikey07 last edited by Canes4life

                                            @mikey07 it’s because the Hurricanes monitor their posts and don’t let a single negative comment infiltrate the perfect perception of their golden boy coach.

                                            Jason Holland truely is a munter. So much so that when he was questioned on Rayasi’s hat trick against the Blues, he was quoted saying that he thought Rayasi only scored two tries. Does the guy even watch his team?

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                                              foobaNZ last edited by

                                              The funny thing about our coaching is that I think on attack, generally the Canes have good structure and hold the ball well. They're no where near as error prone as historical Canes teams

                                              It's the game plans where we fall over (for example kicking the ball midfield versus Saders and trying to take them on upfront)

                                              But far and away the worst thing about this coaching group is their selections, they are so unfathomably bad and inconsistent week on week

                                              He'll fix one problem (put in Love) but create another (Proctor at 12) - and he does this all year

                                              Last year IWL would play a blinder, and next week, he'd drop him

                                              it's such a shame this squad has this muppet in charge

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                                              • Canes4life
                                                Canes4life last edited by Canes4life

                                                If you flick across on the post Holland explains the team selections. Apparently Peter Umaga-Jensen played really well off the bench last week but he trusts Proctor to do the job at 12. 🤦🏼‍♂️

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                                                • Bovidae
                                                  Bovidae @gt12 last edited by

                                                  @gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                  Is Sangster injured? Kid has been great so better send him to the stands.

                                                  Edit: they are going to be tiny if they lose Delaney.

                                                  IIRC Prinsep went into lock last week. But your point still stands.

                                                  Howden would offer some height and size off the bench.

                                                  As to the Highlanders, I know that Brown said that both Fijian wingers were projects but Coombes-Fabling starting over either, or even Punivai (injured?), is a big surprise. I can't remember him playing on the left wing before.

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                                                  • Stargazer
                                                    Stargazer last edited by

                                                    So the Blues player who knocked Jacob Devery in the face with his arm, not only took Devery out of last week's game, but also out of this week's. Concussion. ☹

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                                                    • Higgins
                                                      Higgins @Bovidae last edited by

                                                      @bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                      IIRC Prinsep went into lock last week.

                                                      Ahead of Ardie? Wow that is a waste of Ardie's loftiness.

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                                                      • Crucial
                                                        Crucial last edited by

                                                        Where's all the Canes fans bitching about the team nearly being correct except for 12?

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                                                          Darren @Crucial last edited by

                                                          @crucial said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                          Where's all the Canes fans bitching about the team nearly being correct except for 12?

                                                          12, loose forwards, wing
                                                          That's my issue, it really makes no sense. Seems if someone plays well they get dropped.

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                                                          • Canes4life
                                                            Canes4life @Crucial last edited by Canes4life

                                                            @crucial you obviously haven't read the thread.

                                                            All of Iose, Goosen, PUJ and Flanders should be starting. Those guys along with Love, Sullivan and Ardie, are the reason we came back against the Blues, yet Holland still decides to stick with impactless players like Prinsep, Kirifi, Proctor etc.

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                                                              foobaNZ @Crucial last edited by

                                                              @crucial can't tell if you're trolling or just didn't read the thread lol.

                                                              The whole thread is us moaning about Holland and his selections.

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                                                              • Dan54
                                                                Dan54 last edited by

                                                                I not sure about some of Cane's selections, Proctor over PUJ, I actually don't get that upset over as I still waiting to be convinced about how good PUJ is. And I actually thought Savea wasn't all that bad at 12 last week, not a keeper or anything, but he didn't really do much wrong, and probably in a couple of carries bent tha line a bit. I think Goosen desrves to still be there, but I not shouting house down over it. In forwards personally I would have Flanders over Prinsep, and I a real Iose fan, have siad so for last couple of years, but I not sure I would start him at 7 , so maybe has to be a bench player for now, He actually much like Ardies as aplayer. I take it Love will go to 15 when JB comes off, and JGB to 10?

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                                                                • Dan54
                                                                  Dan54 @foobaNZ last edited by

                                                                  @foobanz said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                                  @crucial can't tell if you're trolling or just didn't read the thread lol.

                                                                  The whole thread is us moaning about Holland and his selections.

                                                                  Well some of it is, I might pick differently, but I not part of caoching staff, and surely don't claim to know more about game plan etc to say too much.

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                                                                    foobaNZ @Canes4life last edited by

                                                                    @canes4life he's such a muppet.

                                                                    This "trusting people to do a job" crap is nonsensical

                                                                    Pick the players who we know CAN do the job, or at the least, have a lot of upside (ie R Love and the young loosies)

                                                                    Princep, Blackwell etc can do a job, but it's a decidedly average job which will never win a title.

                                                                    Does Holland want the Canes to be average? Or does he want to try and win a comp?

                                                                    His acceptance of mediocrity sucks.

                                                                    such an idiot and it's a shame no one else in the Canes setup seems to care

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                                                                    • Canes4life
                                                                      Canes4life @foobaNZ last edited by

                                                                      @foobanz I guess the only ones that care are the likes of PUJ, Iose and Flanders who must be thinking wtf do we have to do to get a start. I will be pissed if they all decided to move at the end of the year because of this idiot.

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                                                                        foobaNZ @Dan54 last edited by

                                                                        @dan54 the problem I have with PUJ is they always drop him and never give him a run.

                                                                        J Savea has been good. He should definitely be in the 23 but personally I wouldn't start him over PUJ at 12 or Goosen on the wing

                                                                        You don't need to play Iose at 7, Ardie can play there

                                                                        I was a Kirifi fan (I remember him killing Wainui in the final for Norths a few years back) but he gives away too many penalties.

                                                                        I just think there are better loose forward options

                                                                        Even Gibson is unlucky to make the 23 I think he was strong last week

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                                                                          foobaNZ @Dan54 last edited by

                                                                          @dan54 genuine question - what game plan have you observed from the Canes the first few weeks?

                                                                          week 1 if the plan was to kick the ball to Jordan, and try and beat the Saders up front, they sure did follow it well. Not a very good plan though.

                                                                          When they gave that away we were much more threatening

                                                                          week 2 I thought the Blues controlled the ball for the most part, so didn't give us much of a chance to play with it. When we did have it, we were deadly

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                                                                          • Crucial
                                                                            Crucial @foobaNZ last edited by Crucial

                                                                            @foobanz said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                                            @crucial can't tell if you're trolling or just didn't read the thread lol.

                                                                            The whole thread is us moaning about Holland and his selections.

                                                                            Not trolling just being sarcastic. Every Canes match selection results in an uproar about selection. 🙂

                                                                            None of you admit that he got it right with the bench mixture last week. Maybe it was deliberate to finish the stronger team. Risky move but it paid off.

                                                                            (Edit: @Winger gives him alittle credit in a fewposts time sohe's not included in this comment)

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                                                                              bobily2 @Crucial last edited by

                                                                              @crucial said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                                              @foobanz said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                                              @crucial can't tell if you're trolling or just didn't read the thread lol.

                                                                              The whole thread is us moaning about Holland and his selections.

                                                                              Not trolling just being sarcastic. Every Canes match selection results in an uproar about selection. 🙂

                                                                              None of you admit that he got it right with the bench mixture last week. Maybe it was deliberate to finish the stronger team. Risky move but it paid off.

                                                                              So he got it wrong for 65 mins and got it right for 15? That still sounds a lot like getting it wrong,

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                                                                                foobaNZ @Crucial last edited by

                                                                                @crucial said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                                                @foobanz said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                                                @crucial can't tell if you're trolling or just didn't read the thread lol.

                                                                                The whole thread is us moaning about Holland and his selections.

                                                                                Not trolling just being sarcastic. Every Canes match selection results in an uproar about selection. 🙂

                                                                                None of you admit that he got it right with the bench mixture last week. Maybe it was deliberate to finish the stronger team. Risky move but it paid off.

                                                                                I think you're kind of missing the point. Our bench won it because most of them should be starting.

                                                                                I don't think selecting a weak 15 to rely on your bench to win it every week is the right idea. We were behind by heaps and were lucky to win that. Blues ran out of gas.

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                                                                                • Canes4life
                                                                                  Canes4life @Crucial last edited by

                                                                                  @crucial said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                                                  @foobanz said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:

                                                                                  @crucial can't tell if you're trolling or just didn't read the thread lol.

                                                                                  The whole thread is us moaning about Holland and his selections.

                                                                                  Not trolling just being sarcastic. Every Canes match selection results in an uproar about selection. 🙂

                                                                                  None of you admit that he got it right with the bench mixture last week. Maybe it was deliberate to finish the stronger team. Risky move but it paid off.

                                                                                  Lol he didn't get it right because I doubt scoring 3 tries in the last ten minutes was part of the plan. For 65+ minutes the Hurricanes failed to fire any real shot against the Blues.

                                                                                  We only won because the players he continuously neglects came on and showed why they should be starting. That's where the selection frustration comes in every week. Holland seems to pick his mediocre favourites, over form.

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                                                                                  • Crucial
                                                                                    Crucial last edited by

                                                                                    I'm not saying that he got it right. Absolutely 3 tries to win is not the position you want to be in. Blues players hadn't played much footy in a very long time. Good chance that they would weaken.

                                                                                    However, what I never see acknowledged is that this is a season that requires player management and that it is also a 23 man game that can involve strategy around subs.
                                                                                    It isn't always a case of putting out your best XV and put the next best on the bench. It has been proven that doing that ends up with a compromised team by the pointy end of the season.

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