Mens Health
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@mn5 said in RIP Warney:
Healy ( who I thought was a bit of a dick before this comment ) might want to time his comments better but I don’t think he’s saying anything untrue.
Spot on.
My first response was about heart disease being a massive killer for middle aged men, but deleted as it was too soon.
Healy probably knew him well, but it's landed with a clang. That said, male Ferners look after yourselves, eat clean, drink in moderation and keep exercising. Do as I say not as I do basically
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@voodoo said in RIP Warney:
Keep living fellas!
Not suggesting you lock yourself in a commune and drink your own kale-infused urine, but leaning toward moderation is not a bad thing. More important to get a blood test every 12-24 months which might pick up some underlying issues.
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@nta said in RIP Warney:
@voodoo said in RIP Warney:
Keep living fellas!
Not suggesting you lock yourself in a commune and drink your own kale-infused urine, but leaning toward moderation is not a bad thing. More important to get a blood test every 12-24 months which might pick up some underlying issues.
A regular physical is a good idea
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Healy made a point about the yo-yo dieting.
My cardiologist said that I had a type of cholesterol buildup they're seeing in a lot of middle aged men, particularly those who had lost a lot of weight in a short period of time, which I had in 2011; I'd cut out a lot of crap, but was still heavily red meat including smoked meats.
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@nta said in RIP Warney:
@voodoo said in RIP Warney:
Keep living fellas!
Not suggesting you lock yourself in a commune and drink your own kale-infused urine, but leaning toward moderation is not a bad thing. More important to get a blood test every 12-24 months which might pick up some underlying issues.
I do bloods every 6 months or so. Also did one of those 24hr blood pressure tests a while back. Bit high, but no meds needed.
Then just a month ago I did 2 weeks of no red meat or alcohol, skipped a bunch of dinners, ate clean and drank water like it was running out. Did some bloods and a blood pressure test after and the improvements were insane.
It's not rocket science to figure out how to improve your health is it!
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@voodoo said in RIP Warney:
It's not rocket science to figure out how to improve your health is it!
Yeah red meat and bacon and stuff is great, but so is being able to fit into nice pants.
After a couple of years on cholesterol meds and aspirin, I've gone without both for a couple of months now. Cleaning up the diet a bit at the same time as doing some preseason work for rugby, and hoping the next set of blood tests are good enough.
No doubt my GP will be a bit concerned I've not come back for a new prescription in a while, but if I can improve things there I'll just stay away from it. If I don't make the change permanent at 45 it'll continue to haunt me forever.
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I have an annual check up, and it was this that showed my cholesterol was slightly high, and Dr told me to lose some weight, keep off for 3 months then come back, so have about a month before i go back (although in Covid world, it'll be a phone consult and still charged full price)
Sitting at <94kg most mornings now, so keeping off the 7kg so far.
Belly def looks smaller, skin taking its time reshaping itself
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@taniwharugby diet is huge. And difficult to maintain. I have my cheats at night. But try to be very disciplined during week days
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@canefan mine is maintaining my protein intake, without just having protein shakes all day!
I have all but given up bread and chips (although Burgen do a great low carb bread) reduced my sugar (cereal bars)
Sensational Seeds - Bürgen
A great tasting loaf baked with a delicious blend of Linseed, Sunflower Seeds and Poppy Seeds
I dont drink alot anyway (ave 6 330ml bottles of beer Fri - Sun) so I would hope my health has improved considerably.
It is interesting tracking what you eat, and seeing I actually dont always get enough fibre or iron in my daily diet (although I have never had issues with my iron count)
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@taniwharugby said in Mens Health:
@canefan mine is maintaining my protein intake, without just having protein shakes all day!
I have all but given up bread and chips (although Burgen do a great low carb bread) reduced my sugar (cereal bars)
Sensational Seeds - Bürgen
A great tasting loaf baked with a delicious blend of Linseed, Sunflower Seeds and Poppy Seeds
I dont drink alot anyway (ave 6 330ml bottles of beer Fri - Sun) so I would hope my health has improved considerably.
It is interesting tracking what you eat, and seeing I actually dont always get enough fibre or iron in my daily diet (although I have never had issues with my iron count)
A few years ago I got reducated by my GP when he found my cholesterol was slightly high. Too much pasta rice and noodles. I didn't want to take meds and didn't want to be forced to be denied foods. So now I eat 4 slices of vogels extra thin bread with some sliced meat and cheese or avocado. And a piece of fruit. The hardest time is dinner where I like to eat lots, and sneaky bags of chips watching sports in the evening
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Chronometer is the beat nutrient tracker its good to chuck an average day in and see what your low on.
With the cholesterol stuff, there is pretty good evidence now that high cholesterol is not an issue in isolation and potentially beneficial. It's controlling arterial calcium which causes plaque build up and big issues with blood pressure.
Increasing vitamin k uptake through various dairy or leafy greens helps distribute calcium.
Insulin sensitivity plays a big role also as it leads to oxidisation of ldl cholesterol. Basically limit the rubbish carbs and fried oils. And get your body leaner. Red meat should be very low on your list of foods to reduce, unless your eating over 500g a day.
Plug the meats into chronometer and see how great a source of nutrients they are. Oily fish and pork being the best.
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Ultimately it's about moderation and I'm guessing Warne still wanted to party like he was 25 rather than 52. I'm also guessing he was the type who would go on an extreme diet then bender - rinse and repeat.
It seems to me that the whole getting healthy or weight loss thing is so unnecessarily complicated. You don't need the expensive supplements or gym equipment. Eat and drink less crap and go for walks and you're already most of the way there.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Mens Health:
Ultimately it's about moderation and I'm guessing Warne still wanted to party like he was 25 rather than 52. I'm also guessing he was the type who would go on an extreme diet then bender - rinse and repeat.
It seems to me that the whole getting healthy or weight loss thing is so unnecessarily complicated. You don't need the expensive supplements or gym equipment. Eat and drink less crap and go for walks and you're already most of the way there.
I can relate to that. An all day bender at a stag do completely fucked me last weekend, I can still put it away like I’m 20 odd but I felt every bit my 44 years the next morning…..the girl was NOT happy with me sprawled on the couch all Sunday when we had chores to do but I made up for them midweek.
Any plans of a Sunday workout were completely out the window but I was back into the swing of things on Monday. Lean Meats and salad from the garden ( thanks, previous owners ! ) and I’m feeling ok after a week of that ( plus a cheeky beer or two each night ) I think the odd blow out every now and again is still fine but by golly, we need to remember the ageing process is inevitable!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Mens Health:
Ultimately it's about moderation and I'm guessing Warne still wanted to party like he was 25 rather than 52. I'm also guessing he was the type who would go on an extreme diet then bender - rinse and repeat.
It seems to me that the whole getting healthy or weight loss thing is so unnecessarily complicated. You don't need the expensive supplements or gym equipment. Eat and drink less crap and go for walks and you're already most of the way there.
Everything in moderation including moderation.
I put very little thought into what I consume but I shy away from anything overly processed to start with and and cooking is almost always 'from scratch'.
The best thing you can do food wise is learn to cook and by that I mean be able to look in the fridge/garden/pantry and throw something together without recipe. A full range of ways to put together proteins and greens and keep the carbs dialled back by portion.
