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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300589893/super-rugby-pacific-crusaders-hooker-codie-taylor-sidelined-with-rib-injury

      Hooker Codie Taylor has been ruled out of the Crusaders' match against the Fijian Drua in Christchurch on Friday night.

      The All Black suffered a rib cartilage sprain in the first half of the 37-26 win over the Brumbies in Canberra last Friday night, and was replaced by Ricky Jackson at halftime.

      The Crusaders have confirmed Taylor doesn't require scans, and was making good progress during his recovery phase, but will be scratched from the fixture against the Drua at Orangetheory Stadium.

      It's uncertain whether Taylor will be fit to play the final round-robin game against the Queensland Reds in Christchurch on May 27. The Crusaders stated they would provide more information on his availability at a later date.

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      • Duluth
        Duluth last edited by

        I assume the Crusaders will put out a B side?

        It will be interesting to see what the do if Mo’unga doesn’t start. Hickey and Burke have started matches and up until last week one of them has been on the bench to cover RM

        Was Havili covering 10 a one off? Or has Robertson had a change of policy late in the season?

        If he intends to use Havili to cover 10 in his top 23 he should get some game time there before the playoffs

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        • Chris
          Chris @Duluth last edited by

          @Duluth said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

          I assume the Crusaders will put out a B side?

          It will be interesting to see what the do if Mo’unga doesn’t start. Hickey and Burke have started matches and up until last week one of them has been on the bench to cover RM

          Was Havili covering 10 a one off? Or has Robertson had a change of policy late in the season?

          If he intends to use Havili to cover 10 in his top 23 he should get some game time there before the playoffs

          I think he has decided to use Havilli as cover at 10 so he can use all his Ab's

          Backline 23 like
          Hall
          Mounga
          LF
          Havilli
          Goodhue
          Reece
          Jordan

          BENCH
          Drummond
          Ennor
          Bridge

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          • Duluth
            Duluth @Chris last edited by Duluth

            @Chris

            Which is still a change of policy from earlier in the year. Goodhue returning from injury is hardly a surprise. There's no reason that Havili couldn't have covered ten earlier in the year. Or it might be a one off... we’lll see.
            If Havili is the backup ten, it would be negligent to go into playoffs without him having game time there. I’d be surprised if Robertson did that.

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            • Chris
              Chris @Duluth last edited by

              @Duluth said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

              @Chris

              Which is still a change of policy from earlier in the year. Goodhue returning from injury is hardly a surprise. There's no reason that Havili couldn't have covered ten earlier in the year. Or it might be a one off... we’lll see.
              If Havili is the backup ten it would be negligent to go into playoffs without him having any game time there. I’d be surprised if Robertson did that.

              It is, but of course Goodhue wasn't fit then so now its an extra body to fit into the 23.

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              • kiwi_expat
                kiwi_expat @Duluth last edited by kiwi_expat

                @Duluth said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                @Chris

                Which is still a change of policy from earlier in the year. Goodhue returning from injury is hardly a surprise. There's no reason that Havili couldn't have covered ten earlier in the year. Or it might be a one off... we’lll see.
                If Havili is the backup ten, it would be negligent to go into playoffs without him having game time there. I’d be surprised if Robertson did that.

                Welcome to Razor's mindset during finals footy, experience is everything. If having 2 multi-seasoned veteran Crusaders on the bench comes at the expense of specialist first-five cover, so be it. It's all about using the collective knowledge & cohesion of those players who have previously experienced finals footy at Super Rugby level.

                Obviously they view the regular season & knock-outs in a very different lens, regular season has function for blooding new players and building/maintaining depth, etc..

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                • Duluth
                  Duluth last edited by

                  Fuck you two are over sensitive about Robertson

                  If Havili is his reserve ten going into the playoffs he should game some game time there

                  It’s a simple point. No need for the circle the wagons. It wasn’t even a criticism you tedious fluffybunnies

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                  • Bones
                    Bones @Duluth last edited by

                    @Duluth said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                    Fuck you two are over sensitive about Robertson

                    If Havili is his reserve ten going into the playoffs he should game some game time there

                    It’s a simple point. No need for the circle the wagons. It wasn’t even a criticism you tedious fluffybunnies

                    Looks like the welcome worked eh.

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                    • kiwi_expat
                      kiwi_expat @Duluth last edited by kiwi_expat

                      @Duluth I don't think Havili necessarily would.. (need a few starts in the 10 jersey - going into playoffs) with the way he's utilized within the Crusader's attacking systems, he's used primarily as a second playmaker and is stationed at first-receiver half of the time anyway, it would be a pretty straight forward transition, I think.

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                      • Duluth
                        Duluth @kiwi_expat last edited by

                        @kiwi_expat

                        Maybe, but it’s still a risk. So it’d make sense to mitigate it.

                        This game is probably better than the Reds match to experiment.. I assume the Reds will get something close the top Crusaders xv

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                        • FakatavaAllBlack
                          FakatavaAllBlack @Duluth last edited by FakatavaAllBlack

                          @Duluth wonder if last seasons npc premier winger Kini Naholo get another run with the red and blacks this Friday

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                          • Chris
                            Chris @Duluth last edited by Chris

                            @Duluth said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                            Fuck you two are over sensitive about Robertson

                            If Havili is his reserve ten going into the playoffs he should game some game time there

                            It’s a simple point. No need for the circle the wagons. It wasn’t even a criticism you tedious fluffybunnies

                            I don't see where I Am over sensitive, I am not disagreeing with you on game time for Havili at 10.But I think Robertson is heading that way and I was explaining why I thought that,and it may be a big mistake not giving Havilli game time at 10.
                            So if he does and it back fires and we fuck up in the play offs because of it,I will call it was a fuck up by Robertson.

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                            • Chris
                              Chris @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                              @FakatavaFuture said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                              @Duluth wonder if last seasons npc premier winger Kini Naholo get another run with the red and blacks this Friday

                              I hope he does for me I would like to see him get some development time.

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                              • kiwi_expat
                                kiwi_expat @Chris last edited by kiwi_expat

                                @Chris said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                @Duluth said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                Fuck you two are over sensitive about Robertson

                                If Havili is his reserve ten going into the playoffs he should game some game time there

                                It’s a simple point. No need for the circle the wagons. It wasn’t even a criticism you tedious fluffybunnies

                                I don't see where I Am over sensitive, I am not disagreeing with you on game time for Havili at 10.But I think Robertson is heading that way and I was explaining why I thought that,and it may be a big mistake not giving Havilli game time at 10.
                                So if he does and it back fires and we fuck up in the play offs because of it,I will call it was a fuck up by Robertson.

                                I think Razor would opt for the more experienced backline if Mo'unga karked - so LF/Bridge, Havili, Goodhue, Ennor, Reece, Jordan > LF/Bridge, Burke, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan.

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                                • Chris
                                  Chris @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                  @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                  @Chris said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                  @Duluth said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                  Fuck you two are over sensitive about Robertson

                                  If Havili is his reserve ten going into the playoffs he should game some game time there

                                  It’s a simple point. No need for the circle the wagons. It wasn’t even a criticism you tedious fluffybunnies

                                  I don't see where I Am over sensitive, I am not disagreeing with you on game time for Havili at 10.But I think Robertson is heading that way and I was explaining why I thought that,and it may be a big mistake not giving Havilli game time at 10.
                                  So if he does and it back fires and we fuck up in the play offs because of it,I will call it was a fuck up by Robertson.

                                  I think Razor would opt for the more experienced backline if Mo'unga karked - so LF, Havili, Goodhue, Ennor, Reece, Jordan > LF, Burke, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan.

                                  Yeah I reckon he will too , experience counts in playoffs as you said.

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                                  • ACT Crusader
                                    ACT Crusader last edited by

                                    It could well be a change of policy or just a pragmatic decision given IMO the other two options aren’t really up to it.

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                                    • FakatavaAllBlack
                                      FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                                      haven't seen Mitch drumstick Drummond play for awhile so I'm sure fitness permitting he'll be back this week

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                                      • Stargazer
                                        Stargazer @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by Stargazer

                                        @FakatavaFuture Drummond got Covid when they were in Perth. Should be back, if fitness isn't an issue.

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                                        • Duluth
                                          Duluth last edited by

                                          Crusaders team will be named at 6:30pm

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                                          • Stargazer
                                            Stargazer last edited by

                                            Crusaders

                                            1 Finlay Brewis
                                            2 Ricky Jackson
                                            3 Fletcher Newell
                                            4 Zach Gallagher
                                            5 Sam Whitelock (VC)
                                            6 Scott Barrett (C)
                                            7 Tom Christie
                                            8 Ethan Blackadder
                                            9 Bryn Hall
                                            10 Fergus Burke
                                            11 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                            12 Jack Goodhue (VC)
                                            13 Braydon Ennor
                                            14 Sevu Reece
                                            15 Chay Fihaki

                                            RESERVES:
                                            16 Shilo Klein
                                            17 Tamaiti Williams
                                            18 Oli Jager
                                            19 Dominic Gardiner
                                            20 Corey Kellow
                                            21 Mitch Drummond
                                            22 Simon Hickey
                                            23 George Bridge

                                            Crusaders team named for historic first match against Fijian Drua in Christchurch

                                            Crusaders team named for historic first match against Fijian Drua in Christchurch
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                                            • Crazy Horse
                                              Crazy Horse last edited by

                                              There are a few players in that 23 who make me nervous. If the Drua get in one of their moods I am not sure how some of those Crusader players will cope.

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                                              • FakatavaAllBlack
                                                FakatavaAllBlack @Stargazer last edited by

                                                @Stargazer Dog Roll at 6, Jack as vice Captain! I thought they would include Kini on the bench but seeing as tho it's their first home game in ages it makes sense to reward the crowd with a superstar like George Bridge🙂

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                                                • Bones
                                                  Bones @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                                                  @FakatavaFuture got to have a world beating superstar to come on in case Ennor has to go off.

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                                                  • Duluth
                                                    Duluth last edited by

                                                    Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Zuriel Togiatama, Samuela Tawake, Isoa Nasilasila, Ratu Rotuisolia, Joseva Tamani, Mesulame Dolokoto, Nemani Nagusa (c), Peni Matawalu, Caleb Muntz, Vinaya Habosi, Teti Tela, Kalaveti Ravouvou, Selestino Ravutaumada, Kitione Taliga

                                                    Reserves: Tevita Ikanivere, Haereiti Hetet, Manasa Saulo, Chris Minimbi, Raikabula Momoedonu, Leone Nawai, Ilaisa Droasese, Tuidraki Samusamuvodre

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                                                    • taniwharugby
                                                      taniwharugby @Duluth last edited by taniwharugby

                                                      Momoedonu

                                                      I think this will be his first outing this year...apparently highly rated, but I haven't been overly impressed with what I saw at npc level last year, so will be interesting to see iow he goes if he gets on.

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                                                      • Chris
                                                        Chris @Crazy Horse last edited by

                                                        @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                                        There are a few players in that 23 who make me nervous. If the Drua get in one of their moods I am not sure how some of those Crusader players will cope.

                                                        What players make you nervous
                                                        Burke,Finaki.Klein and Jackson

                                                        The rest are ok, Brewis played well against the Brumbies when he came on

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                                                          cgrant @Chris last edited by

                                                          @Chris
                                                          Brewis is very promising. He is still a youngster but next year, he could leapfrog Bower in the pecking order at LHP.

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                                                          • Chris
                                                            Chris @cgrant last edited by

                                                            @cgrant said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                                            @Chris
                                                            Brewis is very promising. He is still a youngster but next year, he could leapfrog Bower in the pecking order at LHP.

                                                            He could do,Jason Ryan rates him highly.

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                                                            • Crazy Horse
                                                              Crazy Horse @Chris last edited by

                                                              @Chris said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                                              @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                                              There are a few players in that 23 who make me nervous. If the Drua get in one of their moods I am not sure how some of those Crusader players will cope.

                                                              What players make you nervous
                                                              Burke,Finaki.Klein and Jackson

                                                              The rest are ok, Brewis played well against the Brumbies when he came on

                                                              Add Hickey to that list and you pretty much nailed it. Not saying the Saders will lose but with two hookers and two 10s who haven't looked like they belong at Super level I will worry if the pressure comes on.

                                                              Then there is Fihaki. Still waiting for him to do anything to suggest he belongs as well.

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                                                              • FakatavaAllBlack
                                                                FakatavaAllBlack @Crazy Horse last edited by

                                                                @Crazy-Horse I want Fihaki to do well, he's Canterbury's favorite son after all! unfortunately when he's played for the Crusaders such as against the chiefs he's looked very green, is green the right term? idk😅

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                                                                • Chris
                                                                  Chris @Crazy Horse last edited by Chris

                                                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                                                  @Chris said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                                                  There are a few players in that 23 who make me nervous. If the Drua get in one of their moods I am not sure how some of those Crusader players will cope.

                                                                  What players make you nervous
                                                                  Burke,Finaki.Klein and Jackson

                                                                  The rest are ok, Brewis played well against the Brumbies when he came on

                                                                  Add Hickey to that list and you pretty much nailed it. Not saying the Saders will lose but with two hookers and two 10s who haven't looked like they belong at Super level I will worry if the pressure comes on.

                                                                  Then there is Fihaki. Still waiting for him to do anything to suggest he belongs as well.

                                                                  Yeah I agree they all worry me too especially if Dura get on one of their roles they are hard to stop.
                                                                  We could do with a bounus point to help secure 2nd.

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                                                                  • taniwharugby
                                                                    taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                    hopefully it pays off...

                                                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128683072/all-black-scott-barrett-sought-mental-skills-and-tackle-technique-advice-after-highshot-ban

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                                                                    • Duluth
                                                                      Duluth last edited by

                                                                      Tab offering a 31.5 point start

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                                                                      • taniwharugby
                                                                        taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                        no way was he supporting his own weight

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                                                                        • Bones
                                                                          Bones last edited by

                                                                          Excellent tidy up by Faingaanuku

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                                                                          • Machpants
                                                                            Machpants last edited by

                                                                            Hall looking distinctively average

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                                                                            • antipodean
                                                                              antipodean last edited by

                                                                              That shouldn't be a try - Christie propelled himself forward off the ground.

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                                                                                hydro11 @antipodean last edited by

                                                                                @antipodean said in Crusaders v Fijian Drua:

                                                                                That shouldn't be a try - Christie propelled himself forward off the ground.

                                                                                I agree. It was more than just reaching out.

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                                                                                • Machpants
                                                                                  Machpants last edited by

                                                                                  Christie was a double movement, propelled himself forward with his knees

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                                                                                  • taniwharugby
                                                                                    taniwharugby last edited by taniwharugby

                                                                                    is interesting that on attack (broken play) Goodhue is often out on the wing.

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