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    • Chris
      Chris last edited by Duluth

      Marty Bourke to be appointed new coach for 2022.

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      • FakatavaAllBlack
        FakatavaAllBlack @Chris last edited by FakatavaAllBlack

        @Chris hopefully he can turn ship around! The past couple of seasons have been very uncantab like.. would be nice if Bridge and Ennor are available for Canterbury this season!
        lots of good young forwards to don the red & black jersey in Gallagher, Bell, Kellow, Williams, Newell, Darry☺️

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        • Chris
          Chris @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

          @FakatavaFuture said in Canterbury 2022:

          @Chris hopefully he can turn ship around! The past couple of seasons have been very uncantab like.. would be nice if Bridge and Ennor are available for Canterbury this season!
          lots of good young forwards to don the red & black jersey in Gallagher, Bell, Kellow, Williams, Newell, Darry☺️

          The last two seasons have been shocking not up to Canterbury standards.
          I hope Bourke can set some standards up and get them performing up to a decent level.

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          • booboo
            booboo @Chris last edited by booboo

            @Chris what's his background (for us non Cantabs)?

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            • Bovidae
              Bovidae last edited by

              This seemed to be a job nobody wanted.

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              • FakatavaAllBlack
                FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                Knew that surname sounded familiar, he's the brother of Bay legend Colin Bourke

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                • Chris
                  Chris @booboo last edited by

                  @booboo said in Canterbury 2022:

                  @Chris what's his background (for us non Cantabs)?

                  He was the attack coach for Canterbury last year .
                  Before that he was involved coaching with the New York team in the USA.
                  And was the defence coach for BOP.

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                  • Chris
                    Chris @Bovidae last edited by

                    @Bovidae said in Canterbury 2022:

                    This seemed to be a job nobody wanted.

                    It seemed that way,Canterbury Rugby is a bit of a mess ATM it needs sorting out.

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                    • Duluth
                      Duluth @Bovidae last edited by Duluth

                      @Bovidae said in Canterbury 2022:

                      This seemed to be a job nobody wanted.

                      You can see why. There's been three seasons of bad results (not just two) and the fans will judge the 2022 side by the standards of 4+ years ago.
                      So a coach will get no credit for a big turnaround and even a moderate improvement isn't good enough.

                      Now that Tasman is the premier side in the Crusaders region recruitment and holding quality players is harder. Canterbury should still be near the top, but structurally things are a lot more difficult

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                      • FakatavaAllBlack
                        FakatavaAllBlack @Duluth last edited by FakatavaAllBlack

                        @Duluth Canterbury went from a team that could put 80 points on southland to then a side that would only beat the stags by the skin of their teeth, I hope the Canterbury of greater days can return, strip prinsep of the Captaincy and let Luke Romano lead by example

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                        • Duluth
                          Duluth last edited by Duluth

                          @FakatavaFuture

                          2019 - 6 wins 5 losses
                          2020 - 4 wins 6 losses
                          2021 - 5 wins 5 losses

                          In 3 seasons they have not been able to out perform a coin toss (15 wins 16 losses)

                          The fact that there are teams like Southland that are essentially amateur makes it even worse

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                          • Bovidae
                            Bovidae last edited by

                            The irony is that Canterbury beat the eventual winners in 2020 and 2021.

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                            • FakatavaAllBlack
                              FakatavaAllBlack @Duluth last edited by

                              @Duluth grizz wyllie would be non too impressed

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                              • FakatavaAllBlack
                                FakatavaAllBlack @Bovidae last edited by

                                @Bovidae Canterbury managing to keep the Mako scoreless had me shocked I tell you! Luke Romano put in an immense shift whilst Havili & his men looked as tho they were on a labour weekend bender ( don't recall if it was labour wknd)

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                                • Chris
                                  Chris @Duluth last edited by

                                  @Duluth said in Canterbury 2022:

                                  @Bovidae said in Canterbury 2022:

                                  This seemed to be a job nobody wanted.

                                  You can see why. There's been three seasons of bad results (not just two) and the fans will judge the 2022 side by the standards of 4+ years ago.
                                  So a coach will get no credit for a big turnaround and even a moderate improvement isn't good enough.

                                  Now that Tasman is the premier side in the Crusaders region recruitment and holding quality players is harder. Canterbury should still be near the top, but structurally things are a lot more difficult

                                  Yeah there were some problems within the board as well.
                                  Those seems to be getting better.
                                  It will take a couple of years to get back on track
                                  Tasman has had a major impact on the landscape as you say it has hurt the recruitment process for Canterbury.

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                                    African Monkey @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                                    @FakatavaFuture Stuff that haha! They might return but I certainly don't miss seeing them win the comp year after year.

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                                    • Chris
                                      Chris @African Monkey last edited by

                                      @African-Monkey said in Canterbury 2022:

                                      @FakatavaFuture Stuff that haha! They might return but I certainly don't miss seeing them win the comp year after year.

                                      I remember Auckland winning every year through the 1980's by 20 points at least every game.Starting after the great Shield game when Auckland took it back from Grizz's team.
                                      That team use to thump Canterbury by 30 points everytime.
                                      Auckland were miles ahead of everyone in fitness and professionalism.
                                      It took Canterbury 5 or 6 years to catch up.

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                                        African Monkey @Chris last edited by

                                        @Chris haha true. So how are you guys gonna fit all your locks in now Gallagher coming along and Gardiner as well?

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                                        • FakatavaAllBlack
                                          FakatavaAllBlack @African Monkey last edited by

                                          @African-Monkey thought Gardiner was a loose forward that can cover lock? he's certainly not a winger😭

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                                          • Chris
                                            Chris @African Monkey last edited by Chris

                                            @African-Monkey said in Canterbury 2022:

                                            @Chris haha true. So how are you guys gonna fit all your locks in now Gallagher coming along and Gardiner as well?

                                            Gardiner is a LF really who covers lock.Dunshea out for the season.
                                            So I guess Romano,Gallagher and Darry rotating around the 23.

                                            LF looks like a squeeze to. Christie,Harmon,Kellow,Gardiner,Prinseep and Grace.
                                            Plus there are a couple of young LF's in Torian Barnes and George Metheven who deserve a crack.

                                            It is really the backs we are shit with donkey's like Mcleod,both Punivai Brothers nothing behind Burke and HB is weak behind Drummond.

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                                              kiwi_expat @Duluth last edited by

                                              @Duluth said in Canterbury 2022:

                                              @FakatavaFuture

                                              2019 - 6 wins 5 losses
                                              2020 - 4 wins 6 losses
                                              2021 - 5 wins 5 losses

                                              In 3 seasons they have not been able to out perform a coin toss (15 wins 16 losses)

                                              The fact that there are teams like Southland that are essentially amateur makes it even worse

                                              It also highlights how great of a coach Razor was for Canterbury.

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                                              • Duluth
                                                Duluth @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                                @kiwi_expat said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                @Duluth said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                @FakatavaFuture

                                                2019 - 6 wins 5 losses
                                                2020 - 4 wins 6 losses
                                                2021 - 5 wins 5 losses

                                                In 3 seasons they have not been able to out perform a coin toss (15 wins 16 losses)

                                                The fact that there are teams like Southland that are essentially amateur makes it even worse

                                                It also highlights how great of a coach Razor was for Canterbury.

                                                They were winning championships immediately before Roberston and immediately after Robertson. In fact, the only Championship they didn't win between 2008 & 2017 was one of the years Roberston was coach

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                                                • FakatavaAllBlack
                                                  FakatavaAllBlack @Chris last edited by

                                                  @Chris sounds like it's time to bring Alex Nankivell back to chch

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                                                  • mariner4life
                                                    mariner4life @Duluth last edited by

                                                    @Duluth said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                    @kiwi_expat said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                    @Duluth said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                    @FakatavaFuture

                                                    2019 - 6 wins 5 losses
                                                    2020 - 4 wins 6 losses
                                                    2021 - 5 wins 5 losses

                                                    In 3 seasons they have not been able to out perform a coin toss (15 wins 16 losses)

                                                    The fact that there are teams like Southland that are essentially amateur makes it even worse

                                                    It also highlights how great of a coach Razor was for Canterbury.

                                                    They were winning championships immediately before Roberston and immediately after Robertson. In fact, the only Championship they didn't win between 2008 & 2017 was one of the years Roberston was coach

                                                    narrative Duluth, narrative!

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                                                    • Chris
                                                      Chris @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                                                      @FakatavaFuture said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                      @Chris sounds like it's time to bring Alex Nankivell back to chch

                                                      Would be great if it could happen.

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                                                      • Chris
                                                        Chris last edited by

                                                        Matt Todd added to the Canterbury coaching group for 2022 along with locals back coach Alex Robertson and Craig Dunlea (who was set piece coach last season) under Head Coach Marty Bourke.

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                                                        • Stargazer
                                                          Stargazer @Chris last edited by

                                                          @Chris Here's the media release:

                                                          New look coaching group announced for Canterbury NPC — Canterbury Rugby

                                                          New look coaching group announced for Canterbury NPC — Canterbury Rugby

                                                          Marty Bourke will lead the Canterbury NPC coaching group for 2022 with Alex Robertson and Craig Dunlea alongside as Assistants.

                                                          Canterbury stalwart Matt Todd will also join the coaching staff as he transitions from playing in Japan.

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                                                          • FakatavaAllBlack
                                                            FakatavaAllBlack @Chris last edited by

                                                            @Chris Craig Dunlea i think he was mid canterbury coach a few years back & wow Canterbury's favorite underated son Matt Todd joining the coaching team can only be good news🙂

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                                                              nzzp @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                                                              @FakatavaFuture said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                              @Chris Craig Dunlea i think he was mid canterbury coach a few years back & wow Canterbury's favorite underated son Matt Todd joining the coaching team can only be good news🙂

                                                              Matt Todd was seriously good. Not Marty Holah good, but a damn good player

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                                                                  FakatavaAllBlack @Stargazer last edited by FakatavaAllBlack

                                                                  @Stargazer an England international no less!! First Todd back in the environment now Willi.. who next Tom Taylor?? 🙂

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                                                                    Nepia @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by Nepia

                                                                    @FakatavaFuture said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                                    @Stargazer an England international no less!! First Todd back in the environment now Willi.. who next Tom Taylor?? 🙂

                                                                    The hope is he's another Razor, the worry is he's one of the other type of promoted ex player who flops as a coach.

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                                                                    • FakatavaAllBlack
                                                                      FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                                                                      Mock XV. Williams, Mcclaister, Jager, Romano, Gallagher, Harmon, Christie, Grace, Drummond, Burke, George Bridge, Poihipi, Ennor, Mataele, Fihaki
                                                                      Canterbury to Rise again!!

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                                                                        Tim @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                                                                        @FakatavaAllBlack That should be a pretty good team, epsecially with another ball carrier in the loose forwards. Is Henry Stowers available again?

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                                                                        • Canes4life
                                                                          Canes4life @Tim last edited by

                                                                          @Tim said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                                          @FakatavaAllBlack That should be a pretty good team, epsecially with another ball carrier in the loose forwards. Is Henry Stowers available again?

                                                                          He’s back playing in Wellington so I’m wondering if he’s signed for the Lions. We are in need of a number 8/6

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                                                                          • Chris
                                                                            Chris @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by Chris

                                                                            @FakatavaAllBlack said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                                            Mock XV. Williams, Mcclaister, Jager, Romano, Gallagher, Harmon, Christie, Grace, Drummond, Burke, George Bridge, Poihipi, Ennor, Mataele, Fihaki
                                                                            Canterbury to Rise again!!

                                                                            Also George Bell,Daniel Leinart-Brown,Fletcher Newell,Sam Darry,Corey Kellow on the bench gives some depth.Plus Finlay Brewis,Dom Gardner and Seb Calder
                                                                            backs a bit thinner Willie Heinz adds a bit.
                                                                            Plus Cart horse Dallas McLeod.

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                                                                                Crazy Horse @Stargazer last edited by Crazy Horse

                                                                                @Stargazer said in Canterbury 2022:

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                                                                                Jason and Scott Pawson. Are they the Pawsons that played cricket for Shirley? I think Jason played the odd game for Canterbury. If so, I never picked them as rugby coaches/players!

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                                                                                  Chris @Crazy Horse last edited by

                                                                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                                                  @Stargazer said in Canterbury 2022:

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                                                                                  Jason and Scott Pawson. Are they the Pawsons that played cricket for Shirley? I think Jason played the odd game for Canterbury. If so, I never picked them as rugby coaches/players!

                                                                                  Yep thats them,Scott played First Five for Shirley in the CHCH club comp as well as Cricket for East-Shirley.

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                                                                                    Crazy Horse @Chris last edited by

                                                                                    @Chris said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                                                    @Crazy-Horse said in Canterbury 2022:

                                                                                    @Stargazer said in Canterbury 2022:

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                                                                                    Jason and Scott Pawson. Are they the Pawsons that played cricket for Shirley? I think Jason played the odd game for Canterbury. If so, I never picked them as rugby coaches/players!

                                                                                    Yep thats them,Scott played First Five for Shirley in the CHCH club comp as well as Cricket for East-Shirley.

                                                                                    Thanks mate. Played cricket with them for a few years and had no idea they played rugby. Guess I need to take more interest in the lives of others.

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