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    2022 New Zealand U20s

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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by

      Great to have a reason to start this thread:


      Oceania U20 Championship confirmed for Sunshine Coast

      Oceania Rugby and Rugby Australia have confirmed the upcoming Oceania U20 Championships will be held on the Sunshine Coast from July 1-10.

      The tournament will see hosts Australia take on newcomers Argentina, New Zealand and Fiji at Sunshine Coast Stadium.

      The tournament has become the major warm-up tournament ahead of the U20 World Championships, which will return in 2023.

      The Junior Wallabies enter as defending champions after their heroics in 2019, which saw now established stars such as Angus Bell, Harry Wilson and Noah Lolesio upset New Zealand 24-0 to claim the title.


      2022 Oceania Rugby U20 Championship Schedule (Sunshine Coast Stadium)

      Round 1: Friday 1 July 2022

      • New Zealand v Fiji
      • Australia v Argentina


      Round 2: Tuesday 5 July 2022

      • New Zealand v Argentina
      • Australia v Fiji


      Round 3: Sunday 10 July 2022

      • Fiji v Argentina
      • Australia v New Zealand
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        cgrant last edited by

        Players who would probably figure in the future squad :

        Bell
        Bartlett
        Calder
        Holland
        Palmer
        Cahill
        Sititi
        Brial
        Hotham
        Kemara
        Godfrey
        Faleafaga
        Nordstrom
        Hurley
        Springer

        I guess they are going to be selected by Donelly but I might be wrong.

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        • Stargazer
          Stargazer @cgrant last edited by Stargazer

          @cgrant Flanders

          Although he didn't convince, I think Riley Higgins will be in it as well.

          Nikora Broughton if he's not too old.

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          • Canes4life
            Canes4life @Stargazer last edited by Canes4life

            @Stargazer yeah I think both Higgins and Flanders will be in there. Higgins was injured against the Chiefs so not sure how severe his injury is.

            Lakai is probably a lock in for that squad aswell.

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            • Bovidae
              Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

              Outside of Calder, I still have major doubts about the quality of the props on display when we face the NH scrums. I rate Mason Tupaea but he seemed to play more at TH when he has always been a LH prop.

              I am sure Donnelly will favour players who have already played NPC/SR (Lasaqa and Michaels not mentioned above), and there are also a few who are injured and didn't play in Taupō.

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              • Bovidae
                Bovidae last edited by

                Cahill shines in Taupō after challenging build up

                Cahill shines in Taupō after challenging build up

                Tahlor Cahill spent three months training with the Crusaders Under 20 side ahead of the Bunnings Warehouse Super Rugby Under 20 tournament in Taupō.

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                • TheMojoman
                  TheMojoman last edited by

                  Yeehaa..in my backyard. Will be definitely heading down to the Sunny Coast Stadium to watch this.

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                  • Bovidae
                    Bovidae last edited by

                    The New Zealand Under 20 squad is:
                    Forwards

                    Josh Bartlett (Chiefs/Bay of Plenty)
                    Josh Beehre (Blues/Auckland)
                    George Bell (Crusaders/Canterbury)
                    Joe Brial (Crusaders/Canterbury)
                    Tahlor Cahill (Crusaders/Canterbury)
                    Seb Calder (Crusaders/Canterbury)
                    Oliver Haig (Highlanders/Otago)
                    Jamie Hannah (Crusaders/Canterbury)
                    Fabian Holland (Highlanders/Otago)
                    Peter Lakai (Hurricanes/Wellington)
                    Siale Lauaki (Hurricanes/Wellington)
                    Hayden Michaels (Highlanders/Southland)
                    Lavengamonu (Monu) Moli (Crusaders/Tasman)
                    Viliami Napa'a (Crusaders/Tasman)
                    Wallace Sititi (Blues/Auckland)
                    Mason Tupaea (Chiefs/Waikato)
                    Raymond Tuputupu (Hurricanes/Manawatu)

                    Backs
                    Lucas Cashmore (Chiefs/Bay of Plenty)
                    Harry Godfrey (Hurricanes/Hawke’s Bay)
                    Riley Higgins (Hurricanes/Wellington)
                    Noah Hotham (Highlanders/Tasman)
                    Finn Hurley (Highlanders/Otago)
                    Joel Lam (Crusaders/Canterbury)
                    Adam Lennox (Chiefs/Taranaki)
                    Cameron Millar (Highlanders/Otago)
                    Jone Rova (Crusaders/Canterbury)
                    Mackay (Macca) Springer (Crusaders/Tasman)
                    Jake Te Hiwi (Highlanders/Otago)
                    Essendon Tuitupou (Blues/Auckland)
                    Nik Vikena (Crusaders/Tasman)

                    New Zealand Under 20 squad named

                    New Zealand Under 20 squad named

                    The next generation of rugby stars will have the opportunity to don the black jersey next month with a New Zealand Under 20 squad named today for their first international fixtures in three years.

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                    • Tim
                      Tim last edited by

                      Not many Chiefs or Blues players in there.

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                      • Bovidae
                        Bovidae last edited by

                        It doesn't look like too many players in their first year out of school. Tuitupou might be the exception.

                        Surprised not to see Veveni Lasaqa there. A few ordinary selections for me.

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                        • Daffy Jaffy
                          Daffy Jaffy @Tim last edited by

                          @Tim 9 Crusaders to 3 Blues yet the Blues u20 destroyed the Saders in the recent tournament.

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                          • Bovidae
                            Bovidae @Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                            @Daffy-Jaffy The Chiefs were under-represented last year but won the tournament.

                            The players selected might just correspond to where the coaches are from. 😉

                            The New Zealand Under 20s will be headed by former All Black Tom Donnelly, with assistant coaches Cory Jane and Scott Hansen.

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                            • Chris
                              Chris @Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2022 New Zealand U20s:

                              @Tim 9 Crusaders to 3 Blues yet the Blues u20 destroyed the Saders in the recent tournament.

                              11 Crusaders

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                                SouthernMann last edited by

                                Sounded like the team was pretty much already picked prior to the tournament.

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                                  bobily2 last edited by bobily2

                                  I believe 2 of those Crusaders players didn't play in the Crusaders team that lost to the Blues (they were in the Barbarians instead).

                                  Edit: Surprised not to see Kemara there

                                  Edit again: I think just one of the Crusaders was in the Barbarians.

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                                  • Tim
                                    Tim @Bovidae last edited by

                                    @Bovidae said in 2022 New Zealand U20s:

                                    Tom Donnelly, with assistant coaches Cory Jane

                                    Those are some very shit coaches.

                                    NZ U20 head coach seems to be a job for the worst NPC "Championship" coach.

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                                    • Bovidae
                                      Bovidae @bobily2 last edited by Bovidae

                                      @bobily2 Just Cahill I think, and he wasn't considered good enough. He is the other player first year out of school.

                                      Hannah is a lightweight lock. Beehre and Haig have some bulk to them.

                                      This squad looks weaker than the 2021 U20s.

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                                      • Stargazer
                                        Stargazer last edited by

                                        No Cooper Flanders? 😲

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                                        • Bovidae
                                          Bovidae last edited by

                                          The only player listed as "Unavailable for selection" is Caleb Tangitau due to the All Blacks Sevens. It would be good to know if others are injured as Kemara might be one of those. I wasn't surprised he wasn't included as they tend to favour the older players. In this case, Cashmore, Godfrey and Millar.

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                                            cgrant last edited by

                                            Kemara is the most surprising omission. The Highlanders first five (Faleafaga ?) is another one who caught the eye but who is not selected. The beefy Chiefs lock looked like a certainty to me but does not figure either.

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                                            • Stargazer
                                              Stargazer @Bovidae last edited by Stargazer

                                              @Bovidae said in 2022 New Zealand U20s:

                                              The only player listed as "Unavailable for selection" is Caleb Tangitau due to the All Blacks Sevens. It would be good to know if others are injured as Kemara might be one of those. I wasn't surprised he wasn't included as they tend to favour the older players. In this case, Cashmore, Godfrey and Millar.

                                              Hmmm, that could be a reason for Flanders missing out, too. I think he's still 18. Still, it shouldn't matter. He was clearly one of the best loosies, and has the versatility to play all three backrow positions.

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                                              • Bovidae
                                                Bovidae @Stargazer last edited by

                                                @Stargazer As I said I am more surprised that Lasaqa isn't there as a no.7. He played for BOP last year so already has NPC experience.

                                                I expect that the likes of Kemara, Flanders, Asi and Faleafaga will be in the 2023 team.

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                                                • Bovidae
                                                  Bovidae last edited by

                                                  Do we know if the team is playing a warmup game in NZ before they play Fiji on 1 July? If they are, it would have to be this week.

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                                                  • Stargazer
                                                    Stargazer @Bovidae last edited by

                                                    @Bovidae This is what the media release (team naming) says:

                                                    The squad will assemble for a week before departing for Australia, they will play a warm up match against Argentina, before taking part in the Oceania Rugby Under 20 Championship.

                                                    It doesn't say when and where, but obviously, it will be in Australia. If they assemble only a week before leaving for Oz, there isn't much time for a game in NZ.

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                                                    • Bovidae
                                                      Bovidae last edited by

                                                      I thought they may have assembled earlier (or today) and looked to play a game here later this week.

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                                                        • Bovidae
                                                          Bovidae last edited by

                                                          @Stargazer The squad is currently in the Hawke's Bay.

                                                          New Zealand Under 20s preparations underway in Hawke's Bay

                                                          New Zealand Under 20s preparations underway in Hawke's Bay

                                                          The New Zealand Under 20s' preparations are in full swing ahead of their first international hit out since 2019. They head to the Sunshine Coast later this week ahead of the Oceania Rugby Under 20 Championship against Australia, Fiji and Argentina.

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                                                          • Stargazer
                                                            Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                                            I haven't been able to find more info, but I saw a post on Facebook saying that the NZU20s beat Argentina U20 40 to 7 in Brisbane today (or yesterday, not sure).

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                                                              • Bovidae
                                                                Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

                                                                I note that Cody Nordstrom has his player profile in the 2022 squad, so obviously a late addition. No Essendon Tuitupou listed. IIRC he missed the final Blues game due to injury.

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                                                                • Stargazer
                                                                  Stargazer last edited by

                                                                  PREVIEW: Oceania Rugby Under 20 Championship (2022)

                                                                  PREVIEW: Oceania Rugby Under 20 Championship (2022)

                                                                  The Oceania Rugby Under 20 Championship kicks off on the Sunshine Coast on Friday. It’s the first time since June 2019 the New Zealand Under 20s have played an official international rugby fixture.

                                                                  All games will be broadcast live on Spark Sport in New Zealand.

                                                                  Friday 1 July - Sunshine Coast Stadium
                                                                  New Zealand v Fiji, kick off 5pm NZT
                                                                  Australia v Argentina, kick off 7pm

                                                                  Tuesday 5 July - Sunshine Coast Stadium
                                                                  New Zealand v Argentina, kick off 2pm NZT
                                                                  Australia v Fiji, kick off 4pm

                                                                  Sunday 10 July - Sunshine Coast Stadium
                                                                  Fiji v Argentina, kick off 2pm
                                                                  New Zealand v Australia, kick off 4pm

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                                                                  • Chris
                                                                    Chris last edited by

                                                                    All games also on Stan for everyone in Aussie.

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                                                                    • Machpants
                                                                      Machpants @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                      @Stargazer said in 2022 New Zealand U20s:

                                                                      PREVIEW: Oceania Rugby Under 20 Championship (2022)

                                                                      PREVIEW: Oceania Rugby Under 20 Championship (2022)

                                                                      The Oceania Rugby Under 20 Championship kicks off on the Sunshine Coast on Friday. It’s the first time since June 2019 the New Zealand Under 20s have played an official international rugby fixture.

                                                                      All games will be broadcast live on Spark Sport in New Zealand.

                                                                      Friday 1 July - Sunshine Coast Stadium
                                                                      New Zealand v Fiji, kick off 5pm NZT
                                                                      Australia v Argentina, kick off 7pm

                                                                      Tuesday 5 July - Sunshine Coast Stadium
                                                                      New Zealand v Argentina, kick off 2pm NZT
                                                                      Australia v Fiji, kick off 4pm

                                                                      Sunday 10 July - Sunshine Coast Stadium
                                                                      Fiji v Argentina, kick off 2pm
                                                                      New Zealand v Australia, kick off 4pm

                                                                      FFS Spark. NZR are fluffybunnies

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                                                                      • Stargazer
                                                                        Stargazer @Machpants last edited by

                                                                        @Machpants It's not up to NZR. It's an Oceania Rugby tournament, so they've made the deal with Spark. This was a response from one of the NZR accounts on FB to a comment similar to yours.

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                                                                        • Machpants
                                                                          Machpants @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                          @Stargazer said in 2022 New Zealand U20s:

                                                                          @Machpants It's not up to NZR. It's an Oceania Rugby tournament, so they've made the deal with Spark. This was a response from one of the NZR accounts on FB to a comment similar to yours.

                                                                          No excuse they need to get NZ televised rugby under one sub.

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                                                                          • Stargazer
                                                                            Stargazer last edited by

                                                                            The Argentinians are the biggest unknowns in this tournament in terms of strength and skill level.

                                                                            They're dominating the scrum. Australia have conceded a few penalties already close to their try line.

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                                                                              Stargazer last edited by

                                                                              And now it is a penalty try to the Pumitas.

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                                                                                Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                HT: Australia U20 14 - 14 Argentina U20

                                                                                Have only watched with half an eye, but the teams are as equally matched as the score suggests. I expected Australia to dominate more, so it's a bit of a surprise to me.

                                                                                Key takeaway from that first half: don't underestimate the young Argies.

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                                                                                • Stargazer
                                                                                  Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                  Wow, didn't see that coming.

                                                                                  FT: Australia U20 21 - 24 Argentina U20

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                                                                                  • Stargazer
                                                                                    Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                                                                    I hope our scrum will be good enough against the Argies. They dominated the Aussies in that area all game.

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