BOP police in Kawerau
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My thoughts are with those officers shot, doing their job. <br><br>
I happened to be on site at Kawerau today, interviewing. Just incredible that it was happening so close and we just carry on as normal. <br><br>
Heard the commotion of the police cars but certainly didn't hear the shots. <br><br>
I don't know what happened but I hope the person that shot them is eliminated. <br><br>
Police get a hard time but I respect them immensely now I have grown up. So much so that I don't flash cars that one is up the road (I do flash for speed cameras though) -
<p>Yeah being a cop cant be easy, they are always in the wrong to someone; damned if they do, damned if they dont.</p>
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<p>Yeah they believe he is in there alone, if thats the case, a few hand grenades through the windows and go home to thier families.</p>
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<p>I never flash lights at people for anything, camera or not anymore, too many morons on the road in NZ.</p> -
<p>Yep, tough being a copper all right. There's a case being heard currently in the UK whereby a couple of young chavs burgled some office and nicked a pick up truck. A car chase ensued and the police laid down stinger device to puncture the tyres, so the little bogan crossed on to the central reservation and mowed down the (clearly visible) copper standing there , then aimed the car at the next policeman too. First poor bloke was hurled through the air and died. The prosecution are going for murder and I hope they nail the little shits.</p>
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<p>Mind you on the reverse side, playing the local police at rugby was always a messy affair. Dirtiest bastards around.</p> -
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<p>Mind you on the reverse side, playing the local police at rugby was always a messy affair. Dirtiest bastards around.</p>
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<p>One of my dayjob tasks is updating a wall graphic each day on NZ road deaths. 70 people have perished on the roads so far this year, all age groups, all over the country.</p>
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<p>Scum who speed, drive dangerously, drink and drive, drug and drive have been responsible for so many of these deaths. They don't deserve a light flash. EVER.</p>
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<p>Seriously. Slow the fuck down.</p>
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<p>And no, I don't envy the police their job. I couldn't do it, think I'd turn Judge Dredd within a week, tops.</p> -
So this is still going on, and now the gunmans family are blaming the police saying they are blocking them and a Maori liaison officer from going in and getting him out, cos he will come out if they tell him to.<br><br>
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<div><strong>8.40am:</strong> A family spokesperson just held an impromptu stand-up for media outside the cordon.<br><br>
She confirmed Mr Morehu was liaising with the family and he had been sent inside to collect the alleged gunman on behalf of family.</div>
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<p>Hopefully he doesn't get shot at....surely he has a phone in the house, that the family could have convinced him to surrender via?</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603029'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11603029</a></p>
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<p><strong>8.50am:</strong> Ripeka Lessels said they have been at the scene all night and fear the alleged gunman will be shot by police.<br><br>
She says the "police way is not the only way" and family are disgruntled and believe the information they have been given is misleading.</p>
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<p>They are disgruntled?</p>
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<p><strong>9.02am:</strong> The family say they are frustrated at being left out of police efforts to end the siege.<br><br>
The spokeswoman said the whanau were notified that an incident was unfolding at the Onepu Springs family home yesterday just after 2pm.<br><br>
The information given to them was “pretty spasmodic and somewhat misleading†leaving the whanau often disgruntled.</p>
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<p>Ah, so it's the police that handled this situation poorly from the outset!</p> -
<p>Apparently he has been arrested without further incident.</p>
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<p>Hopefully he doesn't get shot at....surely he has a phone in the house, that the family could have convinced him to surrender via?</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;">Apparently he's been texting his family. From the Herald:</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Calibri, Candara, Segoe, 'Segoe UI', Optima, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;">The gunman has indicated to family through text messages that he wants to come out but he wants the support of his family to do so and does not want to go to prison.</span></span></p>
<p style="font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Calibri, Candara, Segoe, 'Segoe UI', Optima, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;">"He's scared," his mother said. "He knows what he's done and that's it for him."</span></p>
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<p>So he's got a phone alright. I don't know why they don't just tell him he's being stupid and just to leave. But then again when you see what passes for logic in the family that's unlikely.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Police had no proof the shots had come from the house. They could have easily come from the other side of the road where there was a firing range, she said
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">"It has been traumatic being in a position that the whanau believe could have been avoided had the police found the time to find another way."
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Not as traumatic as actually being shot though, eh?</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Anyway, he's now been arrested. Now just wait for the whanau to protest his innocence.</span></span></p> -
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<p>They are disgruntled?</p>
<p>I am disgruntled that they helped raise a feral piece of shit</p>
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<p>Exactly. I'm also disgruntled on behalf of the officers seriously injured in hospital, and their worried families, thanks to that fucktard.</p> -
<p>Well, I suppose if he comes out with family, he shouldn't have to go to prison since he's ending it peacefully. It's only fair. Maybe after shooting several people, he might be able to enjoy home detention. Perhaps even with conditions to allow him to work eight hours a day as well. In fact, bugger it - throw away the electronic bracelet. We just don't understand what he's had to go through over the last 18 hours. It's tough, OK guys?</p>
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<p>Only filth make demands on police after one of their relatives has decided to start shooting at them.</p>
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<p>Only filth make demands on police after one of their relatives has decided to start shooting at them.</p>
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<p>Mind you on the reverse side, playing the local police at rugby was always a messy affair. Dirtiest bastards around.</p>
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<p>If you had to hold yourself back from giving little turds a clip around the ear all week, you'd rip in on the paddock, too.</p>
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<p>Looks like my calming words have worked, and he has been arrested without incident.</p>
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<p>Up next, I solve the Syrian refugee crisis using some crepe paper, a piece of dowel and some snips. </p>
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<p>even more impressive without the need for sticky tape!</p> -
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<p>Love a good misrelated particable.</p>
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<p>I've tried to work out what was supposed to be typed here but I can't</p> -
<p>Sounds like him and his whanau are ferals, "could have come from a shooting range" ffs. Were the people at the shooting range firing at the plane that was overhead too?</p>
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<p>I've got a mate who was related to Stephen Wallace, he's normally good company but I've had to bite my tongue a few time over the years as hes twisted himself in knots trying to claim the police were at fault not the nutter who wouldn't put down his weapons when confronted by an armed cop.</p> -
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<p>Family members voiced encouragement and tapped the car as he was driven away.<br>
They gathered around to pray with a priest.</p>
<p>Mr Warren's mother Renee Wetini told the <i>Herald</i> her son was "clearer" in his head.</p>
<p>"He's a bit clearer in his head, he would have been scared yesterday, frightened...with the helicopters and everything."</p>
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<p>I expect the loud bang of the gun to have been frightening too, maybe that's what happened, they gave him a fright so he accidentally pulled the trigger, lots?</p> -
<p>This family makes me want to vomit. Hard to recall such complete blame transferal.</p>
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<p>As for frightened, how the fuck does this dumb bitch think the police felt when bullets started flying? The families, when they got the call that their partner/brother/father had been SHOT and rushed to hospital???</p> -
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<p>Mayor of Kawerau was on radio saying he is a good kid.</p>
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<p>What a fucking glory seeker. Who cares if the mayor of Kawerau is a good kid??? Hardly relevant.</p>
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To be fair to the Mayor he was being interviewed and was asked questions about the family - whether he knew them, how long he'd known them, did he know the perp, what was he like etc.<br><br>I actually got the quote wrong now I think about it. He said the family were good - about the kid he said it was inappropriate to comment.
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<p>What a fucking glory seeker. Who cares if the mayor of Kawerau is a good kid??? Hardly relevant.</p>
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<p>(see Hooroo.. the dangers of a dangling participle)</p>
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<p>Sounds like him and his whanau are ferals, "could have come from a shooting range" ffs. Were the people at the shooting range firing at the plane that was overhead too?</p>
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<p>I've got a mate who was related to Stephen Wallace, he's normally good company but I've had to bite my tongue a few time over the years as hes twisted himself in knots trying to claim the police were at fault not the nutter who wouldn't put down his weapons when confronted by an armed cop.</p>
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<p>I've worked with an officer who was extremely involved in that case. Depending on which lunatic relative you believe Wallace was only shot and killed cos he was Maori ( conveniently forgetting that the officer who pulled the trigger is too ) and "was only smashing a few windows" the police could have easily "taken him down with a Stephen Seagal type move" ( I've never had a golf club to the head but I'd imagine if I survived that basic things like eating, drinking and going to the toilet on my own would be difficult ) and incapacitated him until help arrived. At a sole charge town like Waitara "help" is often 20-30 minutes away and that is when they are red lighting. So yeah when I hear about this it is a pretty sore point for me personally ( some fluffybunny shot my police officer granddad dead many moons ago )</p>
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<p>You can be sure as fuck that no "whanau" support were given the disgusting soapbox like they were today. Trying to garner sympathy for some fuckwit who deliberately shot at our brave boys in blue trying to do their job repulses me in the extreme. Do that shit in private and lament the fact that you raised what you did......</p>
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<p>I'm not sure how anyone, family or not, can in their right mind suggest taking someone on who is armed with a golf club. I know how Police are trained and if Wallace had complied he'd be alive now. It's as black and white as that.</p>
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<p>Been involved in an armed incident before ????? so fucken what, that's his job.</p> -
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<p>Shoot him in the leg then... no need to shoot to kill when he's carrying a golf club</p>
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<p>Don't go there SammyC.....a golf club will kill you just as surely as a knife or an axe.</p>
