Historical footage, anyone?
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Long shot, but last week my mind randomly sent me back 35 years to the All Blacks tour or Japan at the end of 1987.
I recall listening to it on the radio at the time as an eager 8-year-old as we dispatched the Cherry Blossoms (and a few other teams) like a strong wind through a Tokyo garden.
Wikipedia states they were test matches but I'm not so sure they were, unless that has been retrospectively applied, as this is on Brent Anderson's allblacks.com profile:
Anderson's only other All Black appearances came when he went on the short tour of Japan late in 1987, owing his selection in part to the fact that the World Cup locks, Albert Anderson and Murray Pierce, were rested for the tour. Anderson partnered Gary Whetton in the two internationals against Japan but full caps were not awarded for either of these games.
Anyway, the point I'm eventually getting to is whether this tour was filmed at all? I don't think it was broadcast in NZ, which begs the question as to whether it was actually covered in Japan.
And if so, has anyone ever seen some footage or found any on YouTube?
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Can't find any videos.
It's hard enough trying to find photos:
John Kirwan of All Blacks is tackled by Japanese defense during the...
John Kirwan of All Blacks is tackled by Japanese defense during the rugby international friendly match between Japan XV and New Zealand All Blacks at the National Stadium on October 21, 1987 in...
Gary Whetton of All Blacks scores a try during the rugby international friendly match between Japan XV and New Zealand All Blacks at the National Stadium on October 21, 1987 in Tokyo, Japan.
Andy Earl of the All Blacks scores a try during the rugby international test between Japan XV and New Zealand All Blacks at the National Stadium on October 21, 1987 in Tokyo, Japan.
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The lack of crowd in those photos suggests interest wasn't high in Japan
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TVNZ would have any archive footage, if there was any.
The two tests against Japan aren't included in "Men In Black", so definitely weren't classified as official tests.
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@Bovidae said in Historical footage, anyone?:
TVNZ would have any archive footage, if there was any.
The two tests against Japan aren't included in "Men In Black", so definitely weren't classified as official tests.
Yep I’m pretty sure all the matches on that tour were classified as games.
I think that 87 tour was the first by the All Blacks because prior to that we only sent University XVs and NZ B sides.
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1987 Bledisloe Cup game is also impossible to find.
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@Tim said in Historical footage, anyone?:
1987 Bledisloe Cup game is also impossible to find.
This one?
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@Bovidae said in Historical footage, anyone?:
@Tim said in Historical footage, anyone?:
1987 Bledisloe Cup game is also impossible to find.
This one?
Second half blitz by the ABs at Concord.
Fitzy’s first test try in the corner after Michael Jones got a partial charge down on a kick.
Kiwis in the crowd were louder than the Aussies 😀
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@Bovidae said in Historical footage, anyone?:
@Tim said in Historical footage, anyone?:
1987 Bledisloe Cup game is also impossible to find.
This one?
You absolute legend. Been wanting to see this for years! 35 to be exact.
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@Bovidae Thanks!
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They were televised on TVNZ. I watched them.
First time I ever saw a ton, didn't really like it, still don't.
The 2 'tests' and the Presidents XV or whatever they were called were broadcast live (remember watching Paul Turner). Good viewing times on weekend evening.
Midweek matches were highlights.Weren't official tests. Classified as All Black 'games'.
I've seen some of it on youtube since (I think?). Edit, maybe not.
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But speaking of untelevised top(ish) NZ rugby from 1987.
I don't remember anything from this tour (by NZ Barbarians) being televised in NZ. Big part of Michael Jones selection for the 87 world cup (this tour was in March).
Rugby: In the bootprints of the Barbarians
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New Zealand's first World Cup triumph was heavily influenced by an obscure Barbarians tour. Campbell Burnes traces a unique anniversary.
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@Rapido Michael Jones playing number 8 on that tour.
If anyone is into memorabilia, you can buy the official program of that final tour game on eBay
NEW ZEALAND BARBARIANS v BARBARIANS 1987 RUGBY PROGRAMME
NEW ZEALAND BARBARIANS v BARBARIANS 1987. NZ Barbarians 50th Anniversary tour, NZ Baabaas captained by David Kirk.
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Some of those 20 and 30 year old players look like they're in their mid 40s.
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@Rapido said in Historical footage, anyone?:
They were televised on TVNZ. I watched them.
First time I ever saw a ton, didn't really like it, still don't.
The 2 'tests' and the Presidents XV or whatever they were called were broadcast live (remember watching Paul Turner). Good viewing times on weekend evening.
Midweek matches were highlights.Weren't official tests. Classified as All Black 'games'.
I've seen some of it on youtube since (I think?). Edit, maybe not.
I blame my parents for not letting me stay up to watch, but making me listen on my early-model alarm clock radio.
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@Smudge said in Historical footage, anyone?:
@Rapido said in Historical footage, anyone?:
They were televised on TVNZ. I watched them.
First time I ever saw a ton, didn't really like it, still don't.
The 2 'tests' and the Presidents XV or whatever they were called were broadcast live (remember watching Paul Turner). Good viewing times on weekend evening.
Midweek matches were highlights.Weren't official tests. Classified as All Black 'games'.
I've seen some of it on youtube since (I think?). Edit, maybe not.
I blame my parents for not letting me stay up to watch, but making me listen on my early-model alarm clock radio.
I have no memory of these games being on TV either, so maybe my parents were the same. But they always used to wake me up for late or early morning games.
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@Nepia I feel like some of the games were on a Sunday night (could check the dates but cbf) in which case they might have been 8 or 9pm kickoffs. Far too late for 8yo me on a school night.
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@Smudge said in Historical footage, anyone?:
@Nepia I feel like some of the games were on a Sunday night (could check the dates but cbf) in which case they might have been 8 or 9pm kickoffs. Far too late for 8yo me on a school night.
I could be fucked and the internationals were both on Sunday. Thanks for the links @Duluth
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@Rapido said in Historical footage, anyone?:
They were televised on TVNZ. I watched them.
I have a vague recollection of watching them too, and it could only have been on TV1.
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@Smudge said in Historical footage, anyone?:
@Rapido said in Historical footage, anyone?:
They were televised on TVNZ. I watched them.
First time I ever saw a ton, didn't really like it, still don't.
The 2 'tests' and the Presidents XV or whatever they were called were broadcast live (remember watching Paul Turner). Good viewing times on weekend evening.
Midweek matches were highlights.Weren't official tests. Classified as All Black 'games'.
I've seen some of it on youtube since (I think?). Edit, maybe not.
I blame my parents for not letting me stay up to watch, but making me listen on my early-model alarm clock radio.
They were on at about 6pm.
It was quite a novel experience for a kid back then. TV sport not at 2:30pm on a Saturday or in the middle of the night.These tour matches also bring back subconcious memories of sunshine to me. I'm not sure if this is because it was late spring in NZ and warm and watching rugby while it was warm and sunny outside, or if it was that the weather in Japan seemed very bright
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@Rapido from the match report
“ Conditions - Weather fine, breezy, ground firm”
According to weather history on that day in Osaka it was lovely 81 degrees.
1987 New Zealand rugby union tour of Japan - Wikipedia
