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    Springboks v All Blacks I

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      pakman last edited by Duluth

      At the risk of upsetting the approved Fern narrative, I'll be very surprised if ABs don't win at least one of Bok tests.

      They won't be able to emulate Irish structures, and we know how to play them.

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        ARHS last edited by

        And perhaps the pent up emotion from letting themselves down in last Ireland match might inspire a superhuman effort in the first match?

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        • MiketheSnow
          MiketheSnow @pakman last edited by

          @pakman said in Bok Tests:

          At the risk of upsetting the approved Fern narrative, I'll be very surprised if ABs don't win at least one of Bok tests.

          They won't be able to emulate Irish structures, and we know how to play them.

          Sort the front five and ABs win both matches

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          • canefan
            canefan @ARHS last edited by

            @ARHS said in Bok Tests:

            And perhaps the pent up emotion from letting themselves down in last Ireland match might inspire a superhuman effort in the first match?

            I'd settle for a little organisation too

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              pakman last edited by

              Do Boks have an off season? Between NH club, Curries Cup and Rugby Champs, hard to see one?

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              • Bones
                Bones @ARHS last edited by

                @ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                And perhaps the pent up emotion from letting themselves down in last Ireland match might inspire a superhuman effort in the first match?

                Fool me once!

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                  canefan @Bones last edited by canefan

                  @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                  @ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                  And perhaps the pent up emotion from letting themselves down in last Ireland match might inspire a superhuman effort in the first match?

                  Fool me once! three times

                  Fixed

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                  • OomPB
                    OomPB last edited by

                    South Africa squad

                    Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Frans Malherbe, Ntuthuko Mchunu, Ox Nche, Trevor Nyakane

                    Hookers: Joseph Dweba, Malcolm Marx, Bongi Mbonambi

                    Locks: Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Salmaan Moerat, Ruan Nortje, Marvin Orie

                    Loose forwards: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi, Elrigh Louw, Evan Roos, Kwagga Smith, Jasper Wiese, Duane Vermeulen

                    Utility forwards: Rynhardt Elstadt, Deon Fourie, Franco Mostert

                    Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk, Jaden Hendrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Grant Williams

                    Flyhalves: Elton Jantjies, Handre Pollard

                    Midfielders: Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Andre Esterhuizen, Jesse Kriel

                    Outside Backs: Warrick Gelant, Willie le Roux, Makazole Mapimpi

                    Utility Backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse, Frans Steyn, Damian Willemse

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                      pakman @OomPB last edited by

                      @OomPB big squad for two matches! Any surprises?

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                      • OomPB
                        OomPB @pakman last edited by OomPB

                        @pakman our season ended, so the squad is until end of year. Vermeulen, Frans and Reinach was injured, now brought back for Marcel Coetzee, Fassi & Kolbey .

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                        • Billy Tell
                          Billy Tell last edited by

                          I’ll scream if we have no tactics (stupid midfield bombs is an anti-tactic).

                          That is all.

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                            Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                            A prop named Ox is pretty impressive.

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                              Darren @Billy Tell last edited by

                              @Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                              I’ll scream if we have no tactics (stupid midfield bombs is an anti-tactic).

                              That is all.

                              I just want to see a plan, even if it's wrong, just see some sort of structure, and some backline moves. Basically any kind of progress.

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                              • ACT Crusader
                                ACT Crusader @Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                A prop named Ox is pretty impressive.

                                Indeed, although his name is Retshegofaditswe Nché. So Ox is more for ease rather than what he does at scrum time 😉

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                                  pakman @OomPB last edited by

                                  @OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                  @pakman our season ended, so the squad is until end of year. Vermeulen, Frans and Reinach was injured, now brought back for Marcel Coetzee, Fassi & Kolbey .

                                  So no Currie Cup?

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                                  • Joans Town Jones
                                    Joans Town Jones last edited by

                                    I'm torn. As an ABs I want us to win. For the good of AB rugby, we have to lose.

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                                      pakman @pakman last edited by

                                      @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                      @OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                      @pakman our season ended, so the squad is until end of year. Vermeulen, Frans and Reinach was injured, now brought back for Marcel Coetzee, Fassi & Kolbey .

                                      So no Currie Cup?

                                      Final 25 June, which seems very early in relation to the old days.

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                                      • No Quarter
                                        No Quarter last edited by

                                        I am in no way torn at all, I want us to smash 7 shades of shit out of SA.

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                                          MajorRage @No Quarter last edited by

                                          @No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                          I am in no way torn at all, I want us to smash 7 shades of shit out of SA.

                                          Agree. But I acknowledge we won’t.

                                          We won’t even get close.

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                                          • Victor Meldrew
                                            Victor Meldrew @No Quarter last edited by

                                            @No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                            I am in no way torn at all, I want us to smash 7 shades of shit out of SA.

                                            Fuck yeah, the Boks are the team I want to beat most of all. Nothing feels better than giving them a good hammering. Weirdly though, they're are the team I get the least pissed-off losing against.

                                            Hard bastards on the field but seem bloody good blokes off it with minimal whinging, moaning or gloating.

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                                            • MajorRage
                                              MajorRage @Victor Meldrew last edited by

                                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                              @No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                              I am in no way torn at all, I want us to smash 7 shades of shit out of SA.

                                              Fuck yeah, the Boks are the team I want to beat most of all. Nothing feels better than giving them a good hammering. Weirdly though, they're are the team I get the least pissed-off losing against.

                                              Hard bastards on the field but seem bloody good blokes off it with minimal whinging, moaning or gloating.

                                              Justice 4 Bakkies

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                                                Victor Meldrew @MajorRage last edited by

                                                @MajorRage said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                Justice 4 Bakkies

                                                Almost as hard as BBBT

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                                                • OomPB
                                                  OomPB @pakman last edited by

                                                  @pakman CC runs the same time as URC. Next season it will be more hectic when we play in the European leagues.

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                                                    Frye @MajorRage last edited by Frye

                                                    @MajorRage said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                    @No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                    I am in no way torn at all, I want us to smash 7 shades of shit out of SA.

                                                    Fuck yeah, the Boks are the team I want to beat most of all. Nothing feels better than giving them a good hammering. Weirdly though, they're are the team I get the least pissed-off losing against.

                                                    Hard bastards on the field but seem bloody good blokes off it with minimal whinging, moaning or gloating.

                                                    Justice 4 Bakkies

                                                    Arguably the gold standard in player whinging. If there's a better example I can't think of one.

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                                                    • BartMan
                                                      BartMan last edited by

                                                      Heart says All Blacks. Head says Boers 2 nil.

                                                      We can't defend lineout drives. The Boers live to lineout drive. We just don't have the stock up front at the moment, no matter how well they play.

                                                      So for me, prepping for 2 losses, hoping for 2 Wins, not expecting them though.

                                                      Only positive from these losses is I've learned to bet at the TAB with me head, and not my heart - bet against the ABS in all 3 tests!

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                                                        booboo @BartMan last edited by

                                                        @BartMan was going to upvote until read the last para.

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                                                        • kiwiinmelb
                                                          kiwiinmelb @No Quarter last edited by

                                                          @No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                          I am in no way torn at all, I want us to smash 7 shades of shit out of SA.

                                                          Yes I could never bring myself to support against the jersey no matter who is playing or coaching

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                                                          • Chris B.
                                                            Chris B. @BartMan last edited by

                                                            G'day @BartMan,

                                                            This time last year we thought all they had to offer was a kicking game and we thought we'd smash seven shades of shit out of them.

                                                            As it turned out, they had quite a bit more to use and we shared two close games (1-1), with our current coaching group.

                                                            Home advantage will help them a bit, but I'm with Pakman. I reckon we've got a good chance of winning at least one.

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                                                              Chris B. @OomPB last edited by

                                                              @OomPB Strong looking squad - Kolbe is missing - any other big guns?

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                                                              • MN5
                                                                MN5 last edited by

                                                                Strong looking midfield.

                                                                David Havilli doesn’t quite inspire as much confidence as that bunch does.

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                                                                • Frank
                                                                  Frank last edited by Frank

                                                                  Clutching at straws a bit perhaps but there's weaknesses in the SA backs.
                                                                  I don't think either 10 is that great, nor are their wingers as good as ours.
                                                                  Unfortunately, their tight 5 looks a whole lot better.

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                                                                    pakman @Frank last edited by

                                                                    @Frank said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                                    Clutching at straws a bit perhaps but there's weaknesses in the SA backs.
                                                                    I don't think either 10 is that great, nor are their wingers as good as ours.
                                                                    Unfortunately, their tight 5 looks a whole lot better.

                                                                    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/rugby-championship-nick-mallett-t-073900917.html

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                                                                      nostrildamus @pakman last edited by

                                                                      @pakman I was looking for something outrageous in that article to disagree with but I have nothing 😞

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                                                                      • mantissanet
                                                                        mantissanet @pakman last edited by

                                                                        @pakman Mallet also thought we would put 20 plus on Wales in first test….

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                                                                        • OomPB
                                                                          OomPB @Chris B. last edited by

                                                                          @Chris-B Kolbey is injured. Big guns , Vermeulen & Reinach coming back.

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                                                                            Chris B. @OomPB last edited by

                                                                            @OomPB Cheers.

                                                                            Only missing Cheslin (colby cheese).

                                                                            Pleased to see Big Pieter-Steph listed.

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                                                                            • OomPB
                                                                              OomPB @pakman last edited by

                                                                              @pakman I am getting nervous reading this. I have never heard of a weak All Blacks team. The Springboks are far from the finish product.

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                                                                              • Crazy Horse
                                                                                Crazy Horse @nostrildamus last edited by

                                                                                @nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                                                @pakman I was looking for something outrageous in that article to disagree with but I have nothing 😞

                                                                                I don't know. I only scimmed it, but I reckon he is at least a couple of years late with some of his comments. Eg BBBR is world class, irreplaceable and will be sorely missed and our props are skilled at ball playing and cleaning out rucks etc.

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                                                                                  nostrildamus @Crazy Horse last edited by

                                                                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                                                  @nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

                                                                                  @pakman I was looking for something outrageous in that article to disagree with but I have nothing 😞

                                                                                  I don't know. I only scimmed it, but I reckon he is at least a couple of years late with some of his comments. Eg BBBR is world class, irreplaceable and will be sorely missed and our props are skilled at ball playing and cleaning out rucks etc.

                                                                                  He says we won't win and now you even take his few compliments away, thanks very much Mr Gilbert Enoka!

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                                                                                  • OomPB
                                                                                    OomPB last edited by

                                                                                    The Springboks rush defense needs to improve a lot. Wales backs beat us to easy. The bom squad was the difference in the final test. That 6/2 split is always a worry. Against the All Blacks this will be vital. Kitshoff, Marx, Sous, Kwagga always bring a huge step up.

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