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@Bovidae said in NZ Cricket:
Wags made his debut for Otago in 2008 against ND in Dunedin, and finished his first class career in NZ today for ND against Otago in Dunedin.
Even better for us ND fans (the first in 13 years).
Stoked that he gets to hang up his boots on a high with a title.
Had a bit to do with him through my job over the years and he's one of the nicest blokes you could meet. -
The Black Caps are searching for a new coach after Gary Stead confirmed he was quitting their white-ball teams.
New Zealand Cricket (NZC) announced on Tuesday morning that Stead was stepping down from leading the side in Twenty20s and one-day internationals, with a decision to be made on his role as test coach.
NZC confirmed its top job would be advertised from next week and said it hadn’t yet been determined if they would split coaching roles between formats.
However, one of the strong favourites to replace Stead in white-ball cricket is Rob Walter, South Africa’s former white-ball coach, who resigned from that position last week. That indicates they are planning on a separate coach for the red-ball game.
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@Bovidae said in NZ Cricket:
The Black Caps are searching for a new coach after Gary Stead confirmed he was quitting their white-ball teams.
New Zealand Cricket (NZC) announced on Tuesday morning that Stead was stepping down from leading the side in Twenty20s and one-day internationals, with a decision to be made on his role as test coach.
NZC confirmed its top job would be advertised from next week and said it hadn’t yet been determined if they would split coaching roles between formats.
However, one of the strong favourites to replace Stead in white-ball cricket is Rob Walter, South Africa’s former white-ball coach, who resigned from that position last week. That indicates they are planning on a separate coach for the red-ball game.
Gary Stead has ended up the most successful coach NZ has had over all 3 formats,Results wise he is miles ahead of any other coach.
Another plus is the depth that has been built over that time probably more levels of depth than we have ever had.
three appearances in finals in white ball cricket,winning a World test championship and another final in the test championship. -
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
Gary Stead has ended up the most successful coach NZ has had over all 3 formats,Results wise he is miles ahead of any other coach.
and yet he inherited Hesson's team - and he was a better coach.
Stead was/is very very conservative as a selector. That said, he's left the team in solid place, so well done!
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@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
Gary Stead has ended up the most successful coach NZ has had over all 3 formats,Results wise he is miles ahead of any other coach.
and yet he inherited Hesson's team - and he was a better coach.
Stead was/is very very conservative as a selector. That said, he's left the team in solid place, so well done!
He has built on that over the years and has left us in a strong place.
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@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers
Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.
Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.
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@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers
Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.
Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.
Compromised by half the players playing in overseas 20/20 tournaments leading up to it.
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Stead feels like a test batter with an average in the mid 40s. Clearly a good player, with a bunch of impressive innings but prone to inexplicable failures and not 100% reliable in the toughest of moments.
Honestly, a decade from now he'll be remembered as our greatest ever coach, the conservative selections, odd horrible series and influence of Hesson will be forgotten, but the finals, titles and series sweep in India will all be remembered.
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@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers
Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.
Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.
Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision
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@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers
Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.
Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.
Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision
you do realise the captain has a massive say in selections when outside NZ not all on Stead.
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Without a doubt Stead has benefitted from a golden generation of talent, but at the same time, he's helped to build that talent and depth. The majority of players that have come into the side have gone well, which is a big green flag that he and Kane have developed a professional culture that allows new players to thrive.
There's no doubt Hess and Baz were the catalyst's for change, and Stead (with Kane) have been a steady hand (pun intended) to continue that culture on. Our results speak for themselves really, but at the same time I think the Stead/Kane combo has erred on the side of being too conservative at times, which has held us back a bit at times.
With all that said, if he gets remembered as the greatest coach we've had, then I wouldn't begrudge him that. It's been an absolute pleasure watching his Black Caps sides play over the years. Some of the results we got I never thought I'd ever see in my lifetime, and the way the side has handled itself under his leadership (read: custodians of the game) has made me a proud NZer. Go well Mr Stead.
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@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers
Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.
Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.
Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision
you do realise the captain has a massive say in selections when outside NZ not all on Stead.
I felt like Stead was very conservative, and didn't really challenge Kane at times
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@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers
Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.
Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.
Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision
you do realise the captain has a massive say in selections when outside NZ not all on Stead.
I felt like Stead was very conservative, and didn't realize challenge Kane at times
Yes I agree with that Kane had a big say in team selections due to his powerful position.
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@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@canefan said in NZ Cricket:
He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers
Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.
Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.
Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision
Allowing Henry Nicholls to play on longer than he should have would have been one. It actually seems recently that we have started to promote a lot more fresh talent (maybe this hasn't been by choice) whereas previously we would keep playing the same players regardless of form.
Probably the worst selection was allowing Southee a farewell tour when we should have been going all out for a spot in the WTC final.
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Satnav has done us proud (again!)
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mitchell-santner-wisden-trophy-winner-in-2024-1481804
NZ has produced 3 winners in the last eight years.