Baby Blacks
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How about we go all 1986 and declare this lot in SA at the moment the Cavaliers. Meanwhile we put together a Baby Blacks back home then join a handful from the Cavs back in for the rest of the tear.
Who is the squad once the dead wood is cut and we jump the backups right into the fresh stuff? No pressure to win immediately but to sweep the room and rebuild.
DeGroot
Ross
Bower
ST
McAlister
AN Hooker
Jager
Williams
Newell
Vai'i
Gardiner
McWhannell
Grace
Blackadder
Mikaili-Tu'u
Savea
Plumtree
Papali'i
Ratima
Fakatava
Perofeta
Z Sullivan
Tupaea
R Ioane
Jordan
....Plenty of gaps to fill.
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@Crucial you're going to upset a lot of people
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I think all the new/nearly new ones mentioned have very high ceilings and that is the selection process IMO.
They are just off the top of my head, would love to hear others.Love?
B Sullivan?I probably missed TUJ too.
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O Norris
J Ainsley
A Hodgeman
Z Gallagher
J Sangster
T Robinson
B Iose
S Stevenson,Could all be looked at.
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Who's our Joe Stanley? A late 20s debutant.
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@Crucial said in Baby Blacks:
Love
Why does this guy get so much love? I've not seen anything from him apart from a couple of decent runs, but anything good seems few and far between. Seems like a poor man's Ihaia West to me.
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Definitely Ainsley over Jager.
Dickson and Hicks worth a look?
Nankivell could probably do the Havili role better than Havili at the moment...
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@Crucial when you mention Gardner do you mean Dom Gardiner from the crusaders😳
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So is this about the All Blacks XV?
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@Chris I must suggest Jona Nareki! If I didn't I would feel let down in myself
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@Bovidae Roger is late 20's😔
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@Bones said in Baby Blacks:
Definitely Ainsley over Jager.
That's a tough one, the Irish guy or the NZer who chose Oz.
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@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
So is this about the All Blacks XV?
no
THe NZRU has now banned most of the AB squad for being shit. In order to meet our test match obligations new players must be found. new players who will go on to revolutionise rugby and win the world cup next year
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@mariner4life But many of the players mentioned in this thread will be in the All Blacks XV team that will tour this year.
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AJ Lam
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@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
@mariner4life But many of the players mentioned in this thread will be in the All Blacks XV team that will tour this year.
dude fuck it's a hypothetical question to look at other options. Don't over think it
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@mariner4life Okay.
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Here's your Baby Blacks team, plus/minus a few other players:
New Zealand Under 20 squad named
The next generation of rugby stars will have the opportunity to don the black jersey next month with a New Zealand Under 20 squad named today for their first international fixtures in three years.
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@Stargazer George Bell will be the first to make the all blacks out of that group I think, it's just a prediction I could very well be wrong
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@KiwiMurph said in Baby Blacks:
AJ Lam
A winger that rips into everything, makes great decisions and very few mistakes?
Back 3 of him, Perofuture and Reece would be tasty.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Baby Blacks:
@Stargazer George Bell will be the first to make the all blacks out of that group I think, it's just a prediction I could very well be wrong
I think you are 100%. correct
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Baby Blacks:
@Crucial when you mention Gardner do you mean Dom Gardiner from the crusaders😳
Yep. Bad spelling sorry
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@Crucial he reminds me of if Scott Gregory was a loose forward.. 😅 hopefully Dom can prove me wrong! The more good young players coming through the better
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I thought that the concept was easy to understand.
Not a second XV. Not necessarily players that would be next cab in a spate of injuries and also not necessarily the U20s.
Add to those current ABs that are doing Ok a bunch of fresh faces with high ceilings and accelerate their progress.
The likes of Zarn Sullivan as example. Anyone with half a brain can see the talent and time on ball this guy has. Instead of making him wait, chuck him in the pool now.
There’s quite a few like him if you look around.
Our seconds are seconds mostly because they aren’t even as good as the current mob and probably never will be.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Baby Blacks:
@Stargazer George Bell will be the first to make the all blacks out of that group I think, it's just a prediction I could very well be wrong
bold call fella - back yourself! This is the Fern after all
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@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
Here's your Baby Blacks team, plus/minus a few other players:
New Zealand Under 20 squad named
The next generation of rugby stars will have the opportunity to don the black jersey next month with a New Zealand Under 20 squad named today for their first international fixtures in three years.
Is Joe Brial related to this fucktard?
He lives down Queenstown way now.
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@Crucial said in Baby Blacks:
@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
Here's your Baby Blacks team, plus/minus a few other players:
New Zealand Under 20 squad named
The next generation of rugby stars will have the opportunity to don the black jersey next month with a New Zealand Under 20 squad named today for their first international fixtures in three years.
Is Joe Brial related to this fucktard?
He lives down Queenstown way now.
Joe is his Son
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@Chris should be banned from the black jersey 😉
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Suafoa is another talked about around these parts.
Lord should be a go.
Would like to see more of Wrampling if he gets back playing. Could be a good midfield line impact player from the little bits I remember -
@Crucial said in Baby Blacks:
@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
Here's your Baby Blacks team, plus/minus a few other players:
New Zealand Under 20 squad named
The next generation of rugby stars will have the opportunity to don the black jersey next month with a New Zealand Under 20 squad named today for their first international fixtures in three years.
Is Joe Brial related to this fucktard?
He lives down Queenstown way now.
Rather embarrassing set of punches really. He didn't get a red card because the ref thought he was tickling Bunce. Red cards were for proper punches only 😁
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Is Brial eligible for NZ via birth?
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@Crucial a good chiefs man like yourself wouldn't dare forget Samipeni Finau😉
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Baby Blacks:
@Crucial a good chiefs man like yourself wouldn't dare forget Samipeni Finau😉
Nah. Happy with him as a Super player. Hasn’t shown anything that makes me think AB though.
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@Crucial Fair enough
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@Crucial said in Baby Blacks:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in Baby Blacks:
@Crucial a good chiefs man like yourself wouldn't dare forget Samipeni Finau😉
Nah. Happy with him as a Super player. Hasn’t shown anything that makes me think AB though.
Hey @mariner4life, this guy reckons you suck
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@Bones said in Baby Blacks:
@Crucial said in Baby Blacks:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in Baby Blacks:
@Crucial a good chiefs man like yourself wouldn't dare forget Samipeni Finau😉
Nah. Happy with him as a Super player. Hasn’t shown anything that makes me think AB though.
Hey @mariner4life, this guy reckons you suck
He's probably right
But he's wrong about Finau who is the only player in NZ that likes to wreck fluffybunnies. Need him the Republic folding Boks and getting them looking.
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@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
Is Brial eligible for NZ via birth?
No, although I read that the Brial family spends part of the year in the Queenstown area. Having arguments over building plans with neighbours, so nothing has changed.
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@Bovidae said in Baby Blacks:
@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
Is Brial eligible for NZ via birth?
No, although I read that the Brial family spends part of the year in the Queenstown area. Having arguments over building plans with neighbours, so nothing has changed.
Is his Mum a Kiwi? If not then is he using residency? And then I'd assume that would needed to have started after he left school.
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@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
@Bovidae said in Baby Blacks:
@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
Is Brial eligible for NZ via birth?
No, although I read that the Brial family spends part of the year in the Queenstown area. Having arguments over building plans with neighbours, so nothing has changed.
Is his Mum a Kiwi? If not then is he using residency? And then I'd assume that would needed to have started after he left school.
Joe has been in NZ since he was 8 so I presume Residency.
