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    Black Ferns v Australia 2

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    • Bovidae
      Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

      Two debutants feature in Black Ferns clash against Australia

      Two debutants feature in Black Ferns clash against Australia

      Black Ferns coaches Wayne Smith, Wes Clarke and Whitney Hansen have made several changes to the side that locked in the O’Reilly Cup for another year with victory in Christchurch last weekend. The team will face Australia in the second Test in Adelaide this Saturday.

      1. Pip Love (18)

      2. Luka Connor (7)

      3. Amy Rule (6)

      4. Maiakawanakaulani Roos (6)

      5. Joanah Ngan Woo (9)

      6. Alana Bremner (7)

      7. Kendra Reynolds (4)

      8. Kennedy Simon (9) – co-captain

      9. Ariana Bayler (4)

      10. Ruahei Demant (19) – co-captain

      11. Ayesha Leti-I’iga (16)

      12. Chelsea Semple (28)

      13. Logo-I-Pulotu Lemapu Atai’i (Sylvia) Brunt (3)

      14. Ruby Tui (3)

      15. Grace Steinmetz – debut

      16. Natalie Delamare (1)

      17. Krystal Murray (3)

      18. Santo Taumata – debut

      19. Chelsea Bremner (4)

      20. Charmaine McMenamin (26)

      21. Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu (8)

      22. Renee Holmes (4)

      23. Hazel Tubic (15)

      Two further players will make their international debut this series, with Bay of Plenty teenager Santo Taumata to come off the bench, while outside back Grace Steinmetz will add to her one Black Ferns match in 2020, with her first Test on Saturday.

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      • NTA
        NTA last edited by

        BFs by another 50.

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        • Bovidae
          Bovidae last edited by

          This test is the last real opportunity to give players a chance to make the RWC squad. They need to take it.

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          • Crucial
            Crucial @Bovidae last edited by

            @Bovidae said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

            This test is the last real opportunity to give players a chance to make the RWC squad. They need to take it.

            Some will find that head to heads in FPC finals may help selection as well but it shouldn't change much. Hopefully no one picks up a serious injury.

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              trooa last edited by

              Damn Steinmetz at FB surprising & getting a start ahead of Tubic.

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              • Bovidae
                Bovidae @trooa last edited by

                @trooa said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                Damn Steinmetz at FB surprising & getting a start ahead of Tubic.

                And having both Holmes and Tubic on the bench seems to suggest the coaches want to see Tubic at 1st 5 in the 2nd half.

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                  trooa @Bovidae last edited by

                  @Bovidae Yupp, keen to see more of Tubic 10 & Demant 12 combo. They didn't get much time last week but Semple deserves a chance at 12.

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                  • Bovidae
                    Bovidae last edited by

                    The other thing about the starting XV is that none of the main goal kickers are there. Bayler was kicking for Waikato in their last game and did well, so maybe she has that role. Demant would be the other choice. Semple doesn't seem to anymore.

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                    • NTA
                      NTA @Bovidae last edited by

                      @Bovidae said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                      This test is the last real opportunity to give players a chance to make the RWC squad. They need to take it.

                      Aw bro it's just Aussie eh? Doesn't mean anything 😉

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                      • Bovidae
                        Bovidae @NTA last edited by

                        @NTA said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                        @Bovidae said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                        This test is the last real opportunity to give players a chance to make the RWC squad. They need to take it.

                        Aw bro it's just Aussie eh? Doesn't mean anything 😉

                        Note to the team: score near the posts. 😉

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                        • Crucial
                          Crucial @NTA last edited by

                          @NTA said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                          @Bovidae said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                          This test is the last real opportunity to give players a chance to make the RWC squad. They need to take it.

                          Aw bro it's just Aussie eh? Doesn't mean anything 😉

                          In reality (for this year and RWC), not much.
                          We are in the same pool. The other two teams are weak. Australia will be going into the quarters about 5th and likely to face either England or France. If they are lucky Pool B might even out and let the Pool C second place into third ranking. That would also be a good scenario for NZ as we might meet for a fifth time this year in the semis.

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                          • Machpants
                            Machpants last edited by

                            Ferns dominating already, but scrappy

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                            • Machpants
                              Machpants last edited by

                              Ferns 3 is too big, slow and never getting on side. Twice in a minute

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                              • Machpants
                                Machpants last edited by Machpants

                                Which had lead to a try, roos up 7-0, basically showing that there is a long way to beating France, let alone England.

                                Semprle, 12, totally upright in a tackle. Head contact, she should be on for a red card when she wakes up

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                                  Steven Harris last edited by

                                  Play should have been stopped straight away

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                                  • Machpants
                                    Machpants @Steven Harris last edited by

                                    @Steven-Harris said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                                    Play should have been stopped straight away

                                    Yup, but she should get a card

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                                      Steven Harris @Machpants last edited by

                                      @Machpants , no question about the card , but like I said play should been stopped straight away ..

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                                      • Machpants
                                        Machpants last edited by

                                        Yellow, cos she's 'passive'. Absorbing I guess

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                                        • Machpants
                                          Machpants last edited by Machpants

                                          Finally a bit of decent play, not vintage, and the ferns rumble it over close. 7-10 ferns 26 mins

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                                          • Machpants
                                            Machpants last edited by

                                            Smith will be pissed with the effort so far. Ozzie have really stepped up, but ferns very poor, scrappy

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                                            • Machpants
                                              Machpants last edited by

                                              And that's the half time score, very poor effort

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                                              • antipodean
                                                antipodean last edited by

                                                Did the Ferns get on the piss last night?

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                                                • KiwiMurph
                                                  KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                  Much better defence this week from Wallaroos.

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                                                    Steven Harris last edited by

                                                    Too much white line fever from the Black Ferns

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                                                    • Crucial
                                                      Crucial last edited by

                                                      This is good for us. Wallaroos exposing the weaknesses.
                                                      New prop is having a great debut though.

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                                                      • Machpants
                                                        Machpants @Crucial last edited by

                                                        @Crucial said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                                                        This is good for us. Wallaroos exposing the weaknesses.
                                                        New prop is having a great debut though.

                                                        They're doing rush defence really well, even if it has cost then a yellow, and lots of penalties

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                                                          KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                          Some of the catch pass skills are horrendous.

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                                                            Derpus last edited by

                                                            This is like teams from two different divisions playing each other. Wallaroos basic skills a big step below the ferns - particularly set piece and ruck stuff.

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                                                              Steven Harris @KiwiMurph last edited by Steven Harris

                                                              @KiwiMurph Wayne Smith will be pulling his hair out after watching this performance.
                                                              Despite all the changes , some of the passing and basic handling has been Horrendous..
                                                              Wish someone would Ruby Tui to put her bloody boot away when she’s in a one on one situation..
                                                              The 6 for Australia has been superb

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                                                              • Machpants
                                                                Machpants @Steven Harris last edited by

                                                                @Steven-Harris said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                                                                @KiwiMurph Wayne Smith will be pulling his hair out after watching this performance.
                                                                Despite all the changes , some of the passing and basic handling has been Horrendous..
                                                                Wish someone would Ruby Tui to put her bloody boot away when she’s in a one on one situation..
                                                                The 6 for Australia has been superb

                                                                Totally

                                                                And Ayesha dropping it with the line open..

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                                                                • Crucial
                                                                  Crucial last edited by

                                                                  Disagree about Tui. Yep, she is overusing it but in the womens game it it can really pay off. Oz have been really lucky a couple of times with the bounce.

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                                                                  • Machpants
                                                                    Machpants last edited by

                                                                    I think a card might be coming up here

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                                                                    • Machpants
                                                                      Machpants @Machpants last edited by

                                                                      @Machpants said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                                                                      I think a card might be coming up here

                                                                      Nope, reserve ferns hooker clothes lined some one, but missed

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                                                                      • NTA
                                                                        NTA last edited by

                                                                        FFS that last scrum - Black THP folds sideways on engage and then gets the penalty for being rubbish

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                                                                        • Machpants
                                                                          Machpants last edited by Machpants

                                                                          I hope tubic is nowhere near the cup squad, her passing had been laboured all game, and she poses to players under pressure far too often

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                                                                          • antipodean
                                                                            antipodean last edited by

                                                                            @Bovidae said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                                                                            Hazel Tubic

                                                                            Nice pass. 🙄

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                                                                            • Machpants
                                                                              Machpants last edited by Machpants

                                                                              Great try by the winger there

                                                                              Edit. Through were tubic should've been

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                                                                              • antipodean
                                                                                antipodean last edited by antipodean

                                                                                Womens' rugby is a difficult watch.

                                                                                That was a dreadful performance by the Ferns. A wake up call after the plaudits of the previous game.

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                                                                                • Crucial
                                                                                  Crucial last edited by

                                                                                  The “bomb squad” tactic with the props is a crock of shit and WR need to stop it IMO.
                                                                                  Props off after 30 minutes (the proven period of a lower number of scrums) then the first string front row on for the guts of the game followed by injury replacements from the rested starters.
                                                                                  It’s just bullshit manipulation of the rules there to protect props.

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                                                                                  • Machpants
                                                                                    Machpants @antipodean last edited by

                                                                                    @antipodean said in Black Ferns v Australia 2:

                                                                                    Womens' rugby is a difficult watch.

                                                                                    The ferns were poor, ozzie brought rush defences and attacking the breakdown, so they did their part making the ferns poor. The ferns were still better than the ABs have been most of the year

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