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  • @Salacious-Crumb said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    It was the jockey who claimed crowd spooked his horse; and then later another jockey said same, said he saw Maximum Security dart at the noise. Analyst Jerry Bailey, who won something like 6,000 races including a coupe Derbies, backed them up. Presumably all three know more about that track than I ever will, so I defer to them.

    I'd say they would be bang on then. Watching the replay a few times, it certainly didn't look like that. That makes the DQ even more of a shambles



  • @SammyC said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Polly Grey $4 on tab. Hopefully better with aus bookies once markets are up (anytime now)

    Track suits too. She should go fairly well. Fitness is an issue but we think we have her there or thereabouts.

    Great run! Makes me glad I looked at this thread this morning.

    Back to Rotorua to repeat the dose of her last start there hopefully. Her last start has a line through as we can't explain how it went so bad. Missed kick, got checked, packed sad and strolled home.

    We had Opie aboard but now he can't make weight so looking elsewhere



  • @Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @SammyC said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Polly Grey $4 on tab. Hopefully better with aus bookies once markets are up (anytime now)

    Track suits too. She should go fairly well. Fitness is an issue but we think we have her there or thereabouts.

    Great run! Makes me glad I looked at this thread this morning.

    Back to Rotorua to repeat the dose of her last start there hopefully. Her last start has a line through as we can't explain how it went so bad. Missed kick, got checked, packed sad and strolled home.

    We had Opie aboard but now he can't make weight so looking elsewhere

    I must have missed that race while in the US. Hopefully so good odds for saturday then!



  • @Hooroo can you remind me Saturday morning. Beteasy are fucking shit for getting bets on early, so day of in NZ is the best.

    Very good chance Mulligans runs next Thursday



  • Yeah pretty much all the Aus bookies are usually morning of or at best the day before for NZ races. Only Neds has the early markets but Im banned from Neds so boohoo.

    Do you use PuntersApp @mariner4life ?? It's brilliant for notifcation when odds are available. Also shows the odds across all the bookies so can place the bet with those who want to pay you the most when it wins.



  • @JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Yeah pretty much all the Aus bookies are usually morning of or at best the day before for NZ races. Only Neds has the early markets but Im banned from Neds so boohoo.

    Do you use PuntersApp @mariner4life ?? It's brilliant for notifcation when odds are available. Also shows the odds across all the bookies so can place the bet with those who want to pay you the most when it wins.

    i do, it's fucking sending me market movers right now.



  • @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Yeah pretty much all the Aus bookies are usually morning of or at best the day before for NZ races. Only Neds has the early markets but Im banned from Neds so boohoo.

    Do you use PuntersApp @mariner4life ?? It's brilliant for notifcation when odds are available. Also shows the odds across all the bookies so can place the bet with those who want to pay you the most when it wins.

    i do, it's fucking sending me market movers right now.

    haha that farken horse noise as a notifcation? The wife HATES it! She used to actually hate me on the punt in general until I started making withdrawls etc. Now often get the question on a sat arvo "how much are WE up?"...>WE?????? 😕



  • @JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Yeah pretty much all the Aus bookies are usually morning of or at best the day before for NZ races. Only Neds has the early markets but Im banned from Neds so boohoo.

    Do you use PuntersApp @mariner4life ?? It's brilliant for notifcation when odds are available. Also shows the odds across all the bookies so can place the bet with those who want to pay you the most when it wins.

    i do, it's fucking sending me market movers right now.

    haha that farken horse noise as a notifcation? The wife HATES it! She use to actually hate me on the punt in general until I started making withdrawls etc. Now often get the question on a sat arvo "how much are WE up?"...>WE?????? 😕

    their tipping is pretty shit though, they very rarely get anything right.



  • @mariner4life will do. We are a little unsure if we will start her at the moment it seems. Will see how she goes today and tomorrow.

    Her gallop on Tuesday was good.

    Our three year olds are all performing too which is good. They should be at the races in the next month or so and Ricky Baker is back at work and loving it as he gets a spot on food lane which is the race leading from the house to the stables. Anyone on food lane knows they will get a carrot each time you walk past.

    When is your horse running mate?



  • @Hooroo next Thursday here in Cairns



  • Sweeeet! How excited? Do you have the day off work?



  • @Hooroo i'm flying back from Sydney that morning, probably straight to the track.



  • Mulligans accepted in to R4 at Cairns on Thursday!!!

    It's all very fucking cool. Just saw the colours on the Sportsbet app for the first time.

    She's drawn the carpark, so that's pretty fucking far from ideal. First race since December so don't expect too much. She'll be paying heaps.

    So obviously i will load the fuck up.



  • Unseasonably shit day here in Cairns, fucking wet season will not end!!

    Anyway, the smaller your horse, the easier it skips over wet ground right? right?

    We started at big odds, and we are drifting.

    If a miracle occurs, and she gets up, expect the drunkest posts since Hooroo's heyday



  • @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Unseasonably shit day here in Cairns, fucking wet season will not end!!

    Anyway, the smaller your horse, the easier it skips over wet ground right? right?

    We started at big odds, and we are drifting.

    If a miracle occurs, and she gets up, expect the drunkest posts since Hooroo's heyday

    Good Luck!!! Hope she sneaks up there for a place minimum



  • @Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Unseasonably shit day here in Cairns, fucking wet season will not end!!

    Anyway, the smaller your horse, the easier it skips over wet ground right? right?

    We started at big odds, and we are drifting.

    If a miracle occurs, and she gets up, expect the drunkest posts since Hooroo's heyday

    Good Luck!!! Hope she sneaks up there for a place minimum

    getting great money for a place now!



  • @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Unseasonably shit day here in Cairns, fucking wet season will not end!!

    Anyway, the smaller your horse, the easier it skips over wet ground right? right?

    We started at big odds, and we are drifting.

    If a miracle occurs, and she gets up, expect the drunkest posts since Hooroo's heyday

    Good Luck!!! Hope she sneaks up there for a place minimum

    getting great money for a place now!

    Put on $2ew at $41/6.50 for shits and giggles.



  • Best of luck mate



  • Always back from the draw but was Ok late. Clearly in need of more ground.



  • @Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Always back from the draw but was Ok late. Clearly in need of more ground.

    Trainer reckons 1250 next

    That was still pretty cool.



  • @mariner4life How did Mulligans pull up after the race? What is plan?

    Polly is supposed to be going to Te Rapa pearl series race next Wednesday but she had a rubbish gallop yesterday. She will gallop again on Saturday to see if it was just an off day. Hopefully she was just not in the mood on Wednesday.

    Two trialling on Monday. Mr Pickles (this will be the test to see if we think he will make a race horse or not) and Sussex, a 3 year old Tavistock filly. She is looking quite a nice type so hopefully she puts it all together for a good run on Monday.



  • @Hooroo no idea, trainer was supposed to come back to us with an update, and the plan for the next race. Maybe she didn't pull up well?



  • @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @Hooroo no idea, trainer was supposed to come back to us with an update, and the plan for the next race. Maybe she didn't pull up well?

    Weird. Usually a trainer will say how they are the next day as that is when you see any negative effects from the race.



  • Pulled up a bit flat apparently.

    Trainer flicked through the book of excuses and landed on "jockey's fault" so new jockey next time.

    Next run June 10th



  • Just read this somewhere else and got a chuckle from me

    I know this bloke who had a bet in this race one day where the horse he backed was running last. Down the back straight it suddenly stopped turned around and started coming back the opposite way. He was cheering the horse on, jumping up and down yelling Go,Go,Go. I said mate what are you cheering that one on for.
    He said “I’ve backed it Each Way”



  • Any news re Polly today @Hooroo ? I see listed for a couple of options at Te Rapa

    Also Gosford tomorrow couple of runners I’m interested in

    R3 - super pins. Well bred...follow the hype
    R8 - oxford angel. showed a lot of promise and won latest trial by about 8 lengths. Could be in for a good prep



  • @JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Any news re Polly today @Hooroo ? I see listed for a couple of options at Te Rapa

    Also Gosford tomorrow couple of runners I’m interested in

    R3 - super pins. Well bred...follow the hype
    R8 - oxford angel. showed a lot of promise and won latest trial by about 8 lengths. Could be in for a good prep

    She is in Race 5 and a prick of a draw but Te Rapa is the place to get a bad draw. She can win.

    Hoping her to weigh in, minimum



  • We're now up to 3, possibly 4, of the 6 (now 7) horses in our syndicate that have either not made it to the track or have been retired.

    • One didn't even get sent to its intended trainer
    • One looked OK, placed a couple of times, won a "walkover" (only horse nominated for a race in a specific series), and then got injured. The syndicate manager hasn't actually told us she's finished as a racehorse because - well - that would actually involve being upfront to the people who pay the bills.
    • One simply hasn't been good enough, judging by her efforts at the workouts or trials.
    • Another one got two bumps on the leg and was retired without even getting close to the workout sor trials.

    Of the rest:
    One has placed 2-3 times, and won by a nose. Currently back jogging.
    Another one had her first workout on Saturday and hit the line nicely.
    A replacement for one of the retired ones was apparently looking REALLY good at home then had a setback (again, we're too simple to be told what the setbacks are) and will come back as a 3yo apparently.

    I wouldn't give so much of a shit about throwing good money after bad if the communication hadn't been so piss-poor. The syndicate organisers treat us like 12-year-olds, and seem to think silence is the best policy.

    The whole point of signing up to a syndicate with a syndicate manager (rather than through a trainer) was for better communication. I even offered early in the piece to help out for free, considering my background. Often they'll email us 2-3 days after a horse has trialled, rather than letting us know a day before when the fields are publicly available, and considering we have 4-5 horses in work, it can be a month between emails.

    By contrast, the other syndicate I've joined up to has 2-3 yearlings - yes, not even in proper work yet - and that trainer's wife has averaged 2-3 emails a week with videos and pictures, although it's a bit quieter now as we go into winter. The contrast is not only obvious, it's confusing considering the resources the first syndicate has to call on.



  • @Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    We're now up to 3, possibly 4, of the 6 (now 7) horses in our syndicate that have either not made it to the track or have been retired.

    • One didn't even get sent to its intended trainer
    • One looked OK, placed a couple of times, won a "walkover" (only horse nominated for a race in a specific series), and then got injured. The syndicate manager hasn't actually told us she's finished as a racehorse because - well - that would actually involve being upfront to the people who pay the bills.
    • One simply hasn't been good enough, judging by her efforts at the workouts or trials.
    • Another one got two bumps on the leg and was retired without even getting close to the workout sor trials.

    Of the rest:
    One has placed 2-3 times, and won by a nose. Currently back jogging.
    Another one had her first workout on Saturday and hit the line nicely.
    A replacement for one of the retired ones was apparently looking REALLY good at home then had a setback (again, we're too simple to be told what the setbacks are) and will come back as a 3yo apparently.

    I wouldn't give so much of a shit about throwing good money after bad if the communication hadn't been so piss-poor. The syndicate organisers treat us like 12-year-olds, and seem to think silence is the best policy.

    The whole point of signing up to a syndicate with a syndicate manager (rather than through a trainer) was for better communication. I even offered early in the piece to help out for free, considering my background. Often they'll email us 2-3 days after a horse has trialled, rather than letting us know a day before when the fields are publicly available, and considering we have 4-5 horses in work, it can be a month between emails.

    By contrast, the other syndicate I've joined up to has 2-3 yearlings - yes, not even in proper work yet - and that trainer's wife has averaged 2-3 emails a week with videos and pictures, although it's a bit quieter now as we go into winter. The contrast is not only obvious, it's confusing considering the resources the first syndicate has to call on.

    That is awful. I look at the likes of Te Akau and Chris Waller who give weekly updates, even if the damn thing is in a paddock. Loads and loads of info on the horse and you get the feel you are getting special treatment but they do that for every owner.

    The whole idea of syndication is to get a feel of being part of the whole thing. I know one trainer that doesn't even tell the owners that the horse has been nominated for a race. The only way my mate finds out is when he gets an owners email from the race day organiser which is usually three days before the race.



  • @Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    Any news re Polly today @Hooroo ? I see listed for a couple of options at Te Rapa

    Also Gosford tomorrow couple of runners I’m interested in

    R3 - super pins. Well bred...follow the hype
    R8 - oxford angel. showed a lot of promise and won latest trial by about 8 lengths. Could be in for a good prep

    She is in Race 5 and a prick of a draw but Te Rapa is the place to get a bad draw. She can win.

    Hoping her to weigh in, minimum

    Yes mate!!! Got it!! Another nice win mate



  • Yay Polly Grey, well done @Hooroo 👍🏻



  • Nice @Hooroo



  • Really happy with that after missing the kick. Thank goodness The King was on. Rode her to perfection after missing the start like that



  • What a weird night.

    We went out to dinner with some others and then tried to drink the Liquor cabinet dry (unsuccessfully as I had no idea how much booze we had)

    Fair to say I have a head of horrors today.



  • Well, shit. Monday looks like an action replay of last time. We're running the same distance and have the same gate.



  • God help me, but i've just whacked a bit on perennial bridesmaid Tom Melbourne in the Straddie Handicap tomorrow. For once he's not up around the top of the weights, and 31/8.50 seems like a lot for a horse that is usually in the top 2.

    Couple of horses running tomorrow i like at double figure odds. Invincibella at 11s. And Fun Fact at 16s. Both at Eagle Farm.



  • @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    God help me, but i've just whacked a bit on perennial bridesmaid Tom Melbourne in the Straddie Handicap tomorrow.

    You're a punting masochist.



  • @Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    God help me, but i've just whacked a bit on perennial bridesmaid Tom Melbourne in the Straddie Handicap tomorrow.

    You're a punting masochist.

    he's due!!!!



  • @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    @mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:

    God help me, but i've just whacked a bit on perennial bridesmaid Tom Melbourne in the Straddie Handicap tomorrow.

    You're a punting masochist.

    he's due!!!!

    I mean, I could get on board with some of that place money, but the win bet? Check yourself into a clinic*, man!

    *= problem gambling clinic, not sexual health. Although having heard some of your stories...



  • Someone just tipped an $81 shot at the next in Nelson. Number 13. No idea why it has been tipped but a punt's a punt!


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