Ferns v Oz World cup
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Black Ferns: Renee Holmes, Ruby Tui, Stacey Fluhler, Amy du Plessis, Portia Woodman, Ruahei Demant (c), Kendra Cocksedge, Liana Mikaele-Tu’u, Sarah Hirini, Charmaine McMenamin, Chelsea Bremner, Joanah Ngan-Woo, Amy Rule, Luka Connor, Phillipa Love
Reserves: Georgia Ponsonby, Awhina Tangen-Wainohu, Santo Taumata, Maiakawanakaulani Roos, Kendra Reynolds, Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu, Hazel Tubic, Logo-I-Pulotu Lemapu Atai’i (Sylvia) Brunt
Four Black Ferns remain unavailable as they recover from injuries – winger Ayesha Leti-l’iga, loose forwards Alana Bremner and Kennedy Simon and prop Tanya Kalounivale.
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The team most were predicting based on the injury unavailabilities. The only surprise is that Mikaele-Tu’u and McMenamin have swapped positions.
If you like pictures:
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Smith has said he won't know his best team until later but I am guessing this one is pretty close.
I really like that backline, especially the midfield. Fitzpatrick probably the better bench option but good to see Brunt get a chance.
Roos also a possible starter later but I guess the coaches know how combos are working and there are a couple of forwards to come back as well.
Awesome to see Taumata's rapid rise. I said she could be the surprise of the tournament for the BFs and maybe the selectors agree. -
Three, if not all, of those players listed as injured would be starters in the best XV. Smith is going to rotate players for the pool matches.
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@Bovidae said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
Three, if not all, of those players listed as injured would be starters in the best XV. Smith is going to rotate players for the pool matches.
To be honest I do wonder if Leti-l’iga has a bit of flat track bully about her. Not on purpose but by experience. At her usual levels she would easily finish any breaks/chances she gets but at this level she gets put into decision making positions and doesn't quite know what to do.
Devastating runner in the right circumstances but I suspect that in the big games the speed/acceleration and experience of Woodman may pay better dividends.I don't know whether there is an option for both. They both favour the left don't they?
Also I tend to find that the right wing can be a dry position in the womens game with opportunities few and far between. It's a generalization but the ball moves faster right to left -
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
Four Black Ferns remain unavailable as they recover from injuries – winger Ayesha Leti-l’iga
Disappointing for Ayesha as she deserves to be in the starting 15 if healthy. I'd definitely have her in the starting side over Ruby Tui. She just brings so much to the game, a mini Jonah who has great pace but her balance and the ability to change direction on a dime for such a solid body is just awesome. I'm a big fan if you can't tell.
Watching the game last week against Japan live at Eden Park was awesome. The Black Ferns were just clicking and the game Japanese did what they could. Biggest cheers on the ground were for the two tried by Japan.
Also, can see why Stacey Fluhler is starting. She came off the bench against Japan but everything she did was gold. Her offloads and passing set up several tries as her pace and vision from the 7's really were evident.
Whilst England might be the favourites, I think our girls can give them a hell of a run for their money!
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On the optimistic side, this is Englands recent results
Last five results (most recent first): Beat Wales 73-7, beat USA 52-14, beat France 24-12, beat Ireland 69-0, beat Wales 58-5
I would think that our scores would be comparable at least against Wales, Ireland and USA. In fact our recent against the US was 50-6.
Biggest question there is obviously how we would go against France and the 'pro' forwards but I can see us getting over that . -
Ferns by 50.
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@NTA said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
Ferns by 50.
I think your side has a bit more pride than allowing that. Win by 35-40 I can see.
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@Crucial said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
@Bovidae said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
Three, if not all, of those players listed as injured would be starters in the best XV. Smith is going to rotate players for the pool matches.
To be honest I do wonder if Leti-l’iga has a bit of flat track bully about her.
She is the one of the four I am 50/50 about. Bremner has been the first-choice no.6 for a while now, Kalounivale is the best TH prop, and Simon is a CC and will start at 7 once fit. Hirini off the bench would be great to provide toughness and leadership at the end.
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@Crucial said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
@NTA said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
Ferns by 50.
I think your side has a bit more pride than allowing that. Win by 35-40 I can see.
Given Sharni Williams is at inside centre, maybe we're a chance at keeping it under 35?
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@Bovidae said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
The team most were predicting based on the injury unavailabilities. The only surprise is that Mikaele-Tu’u and McMenamin have swapped positions.
If you like pictures:
I reckon Mikaele-Tu’u is a gun. Still very young but from what I’ve seen she does give us a genuine ball running option in the loose and off the back of the scrum.
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Just realised how much I've missed Smithy & Ted
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Could be one for the podcasts thread but this BBC interview with Ruby Tui is excellent.
Rugby Union Weekly - The Ruby Tui Special - BBC Sounds
Ugo and Sara chat to one of the biggest stars in the women's game, Ruby Tui.
Edit: From about 30 minutes she talks quite a bit about the RWC, the changes, the captains etc. Well worth listening for insight and background.
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On TCGW last night they said there are only 1800 tickets left for this game. What a buzz for the team to run out to see that crowd and feel that atmosphere.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
On TCGW last night they said there are only 1800 tickets left for this game. What a buzz for the team to run out to see that crowd and feel that atmosphere.
It's a smaller capacity due to the music setup but still an awesome crowd. Great way to kick things off.
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What is the capacity at the moment?
Will re sub to Spark for this (and the Cricket I guess...)
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@foobaNZ said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
What is the capacity at the moment?
Will re sub to Spark for this (and the Cricket I guess...)
Around 40k in the setup they are using I think.
EDIT: 47k. I assume that one end on stand area is being used as a stage.
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@Crucial that's great!! A shame Ayesha isn't playing as others have said. She's a gun.
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Really loving the buzz around this. It is like going back to 87 in a way. The womens game hasn't become a load of cliched responses and questions, nor is it being too serious.
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@Crucial said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
Could be one for the podcasts thread but this BBC interview with Ruby Tui is excellent.
11 minutes in. This is great.
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The other two games should be interesting as well.
France v SA with SA a bit of an unknown quantity.
Eng v Fiji with England looking to lay down a marker but they will know little about Fiji who have adjusted their team with a bunch of Sevens players. If Fiji get some ball it could be fun
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@Crucial said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
Could be one for the podcasts thread but this BBC interview with Ruby Tui is excellent.
Rugby Union Weekly - The Ruby Tui Special - BBC Sounds
Ugo and Sara chat to one of the biggest stars in the women's game, Ruby Tui.
Edit: From about 30 minutes she talks quite a bit about the RWC, the changes, the captains etc. Well worth listening for insight and background.
How can you not love Ruby Tui - talented, funny, intelligent, resilient and captivating
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@Crucial said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
France v SA with SA a bit of an unknown quantity.
France to smash them by a bigger margin than BFs v Wallaroos.
Eng v Fiji with England looking to lay down a marker but they will know little about Fiji who have adjusted their team with a bunch of Sevens players. If Fiji get some ball it could be fun
Will probably be the same old story: England dominate the set piece and structured play, Fiji carve up the broken field.
The physicality in the loose will be value tho.
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@NTA said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
@Crucial said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
France v SA with SA a bit of an unknown quantity.
France to smash them by a bigger margin than BFs v Wallaroos.
Eng v Fiji with England looking to lay down a marker but they will know little about Fiji who have adjusted their team with a bunch of Sevens players. If Fiji get some ball it could be fun
Will probably be the same old story: England dominate the set piece and structured play, Fiji carve up the broken field.
The physicality in the loose will be value tho.
Could well be pretty bang on NTA, kind of how I see it too.
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Sadly, the majority of the games are foregone conclusions, even more than men's
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@Machpants said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
Sadly, the majority of the games are foregone conclusions, even more than men's
Helluva vibe for those players accustomed to empty stadia tho.
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On itv4 at 7am for UK ferners. Looks like they're possibly going to broadcast all the games, not just home nations. Choice!
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0700 get up and grab breakfast from Maccas on my way to...
0745 plasma donation! First one in 6 months after Rugby, COVID and other shit
0915 post-donation snacks before heading home
1000 Mrs TA leaves to get her hair done
1015 drop Daughter Unit at dance lessons
1200 having no females in the house for a few hours, settle in for 3 X RWC games and a side order of Japan v Aus A, as the rain comes down in Sydney. -
@Dan54 said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
@NTA said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
@Crucial said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
France v SA with SA a bit of an unknown quantity.
France to smash them by a bigger margin than BFs v Wallaroos.
Eng v Fiji with England looking to lay down a marker but they will know little about Fiji who have adjusted their team with a bunch of Sevens players. If Fiji get some ball it could be fun
Will probably be the same old story: England dominate the set piece and structured play, Fiji carve up the broken field.
The physicality in the loose will be value tho.
Could well be pretty bang on NTA, kind of how I see it too.
Fiji are ranked 21 but will be pushing top 10 after this tournament.
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@NTA said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
0700 get up and grab breakfast from Maccas on my way to...
0745 plasma donation! First one in 6 months after Rugby, COVID and other shit
0915 post-donation snacks before heading home
1000 Mrs TA leaves to get her hair done
1015 drop Daughter Unit at dance lessons
1200 having no females in the house for a few hours, settle in for 3 X RWC games and a side order of Japan v Aus A, as the rain comes down in Sydney.Well I got wife in house, but can despatch her too her sewing romm when needed NTA, but she actually enjoys a bit of rugby. So I will have a quiet day, weather is a cracker here in the Naki, so mow lawns, then at 2 will watch NPC QF, Wellington/Hawkes Bay, and then probably swap a bit between Canterbury game and second women's game. and catch the Ferns/Wallaroos live at 7. So much rugby and so little time huh?
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Too much good weather to waste for me with a fence to finish.
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@Bones said in Ferns v Oz World cup:
On itv4 at 7am for UK ferners. Looks like they're possibly going to broadcast all the games, not just home nations. Choice!
Yes all games broadcast in uk. Switching between ITV and itv4
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Not exactly full seats! 2/3 max I guess.
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Is it wet, drizzle?
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Sarah Hirini looks like Kamo
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Foe me, the women need to keep their emotion in check. Emotion will get you so far, but application and execution are crucial.
