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    • MajorRage
      MajorRage last edited by Duluth

      YESS. The big one.

      Got me a corporate shindig for this one.

      That's all I've got to say really.

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      • mariner4life
        mariner4life last edited by

        at least we don't need to wait around for the team naming, we're back to the top 23 picks itself.

        only real call is at 11.

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        • MajorRage
          MajorRage @mariner4life last edited by

          @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England:

          at least we don't need to wait around for the team naming, we're back to the top 23 picks itself.

          only real call is at 11.

          Which locks start? Coverage today said Retallick would be back, but I think Barrett has been our best lock this year.

          But I agree (...ish) 21-22 of the squad are already penned in.

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          • mariner4life
            mariner4life @MajorRage last edited by

            @MajorRage said in All Blacks Vs England:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England:

            at least we don't need to wait around for the team naming, we're back to the top 23 picks itself.

            only real call is at 11.

            Which locks start? Coverage today said Retallick would be back, but I think Barrett has been our best lock this year.

            But I agree (...ish) 21-22 of the squad are already penned in.

            if i am picking the team, the ones that started today, with Retallick on the bench. Frizzle Fry at 6, probably AI on the bench as well.

            If our backline actually does something for the first time all tour i expect us to win well given the form of our best forwards.

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            • Bovidae
              Bovidae last edited by

              All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

              I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

              Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

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                bayimports @Bovidae last edited by

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England:

                All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

                I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

                Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

                perhaps you have read the Scotland thread lol..I think you could be on the money, definitely JB at 12 and I think Talea may have forced his way in too.

                If SB not at 6 it will be Frizell I think from what they will be looking for.

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                  foobaNZ last edited by

                  Top 15 should be pretty clear cut. No one has really pushed their claim when given a chance.

                  In saying that - I'd have Telea over Reece at 14. Of course Jordan would be there had he not been ruled out of the tour.

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                  • booboo
                    booboo @bayimports last edited by

                    @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

                    Talea

                    I may be set for a whinge of Messum and Reid like proportions... unless I'm missing the joke?

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                      foobaNZ @bayimports last edited by

                      @bayimports yea that's the interesting call, do we go Whitelock, Retallick & SB at 6. Or Frizell at 6.

                      I think I want to see Barrett there.

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                      • chimoaus
                        chimoaus @booboo last edited by

                        @booboo said in All Blacks Vs England:

                        @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

                        Talea

                        I may be set for a whinge of Messum and Reid like proportions... unless I'm missing the joke?

                        Reiko will be starting so no need to worry.

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                        • booboo
                          booboo @chimoaus last edited by

                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                          @booboo said in All Blacks Vs England:

                          @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

                          Talea

                          I may be set for a whinge of Messum and Reid like proportions... unless I'm missing the joke?

                          Reiko will be starting so no need to worry.

                          But he'll be outside Jodie

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                            nostrildamus @bayimports last edited by

                            @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England:

                            All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

                            I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

                            Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

                            perhaps you have read the Scotland thread lol..I think you could be on the money, definitely JB at 12 and I think Talea may have forced his way in too.

                            If SB not at 6 it will be Frizell I think from what they will be looking for.

                            I thought SF was solid, which was a very pleasing attribute at the time he came on.

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                              nostrildamus last edited by

                              I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

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                                mariner4life @nostrildamus last edited by

                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                                why? France, playing at home, have fallen over the line in their last 2 games against sides we would easily be able to argue we are better than.

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                                  BerniesCorner last edited by BerniesCorner

                                  Scooter to 6 for me
                                  Reece and Telea

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                                  • Machpants
                                    Machpants @nostrildamus last edited by

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                    I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                                    Dude, we'll smash England. Last game was the shit game, Foster's ABs alternate OK/good and shit. England are similar and played well vs Japan. The stars are aligning!

                                    Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

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                                      nostrildamus @mariner4life last edited by nostrildamus

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                      why? France, playing at home, have fallen over the line in their last 2 games against sides we would easily be able to argue we are better than.

                                      Maybe we'd be competitive but they look super tough to me (S Africa played super amped and still lost) and I am still getting over that near loss to Scotland. Summary: maybe the ABs would be ok but I don't think my heart is up to it.

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                                        nostrildamus @Machpants last edited by

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                        I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                                        Dude, we'll smash England. Last game was the shit game, Foster's ABs alternate OK/good and shit. England are similar and played well vs Japan. The stars are aligning!

                                        Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

                                        you may be right. Hopefully Eddie tries to goad the ABs and it motivates them.
                                        But France still look damn good. Not as good without Dupont though.

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                                        • nzzp
                                          nzzp @Machpants last edited by

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                          Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

                                          Even in 2015 we struggled against SA and didn't play well - just did enough.

                                          2011 was the final... we really went into our shells after a few things didn't go our way.

                                          2007 .... arguable about how well we played against the frogs, but we certainly went to pieces mentally.

                                          Frankly, a lot of RWC is the draw. Look at SA 2007: Fiji Argentina England to win the thing...

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                                          • Billy Tell
                                            Billy Tell last edited by

                                            It’s been a bang average year. Hopefully the ABs can ride off into the sunset to the sound of a forlorn, halfhearted, feeble Swing Low having beaten England out the gate.

                                            Selecting needs to be much better in 2023. Year is basically summed up by Karl T and PGS.

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                                            • Crucial
                                              Crucial @Billy Tell last edited by

                                              @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                              It’s been a bang average year.

                                              Does seem that way yet somehow we still have the Bled and the RC and are mikes ahead in the calendar year try scoring count.

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                                              • Bones
                                                Bones @Crucial last edited by

                                                @Crucial said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                It’s been a bang average year.

                                                Does seem that way yet somehow we still have the Bled and the RC and are mikes ahead in the calendar year try scoring count.

                                                It's Mark Telea, not Mike.

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                                                • Bones
                                                  Bones @nostrildamus last edited by

                                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                  Hopefully Eddie tries to goad the ABs and it motivates them.

                                                  If that makes ya feel better then swing for the stars!

                                                  I find it pretty funny to think the professional ABs playing England at Twickenham in their final match of the year after a lacklustre showing against Scotland - would need a known troll to be a bit mean just so they can be motivated.

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                                                  • booboo
                                                    booboo @Bones last edited by booboo

                                                    @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                    It’s been a bang average year.

                                                    Does seem that way yet somehow we still have the Bled and the RC and are mikes ahead in the calendar year try scoring count.

                                                    It's Mark Telea, not Mike.

                                                    From now on I shall refer to the right winger who made his debut against Scotland this morning (NZT) as Mike Talea.

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                                                    • Catogrande
                                                      Catogrande last edited by Catogrande

                                                      For all the talk about the AB selection , I feel the England selection to be both more interesting and more problematic.

                                                      Have Eddie’s recent selections been of any help in his “learnings”? 😄 S Foster. (Amusingly that came out as Fister, what that says about my browsing history is worrying). Has he a much clearer view on his starting XV than me might believe? Will he persist with Farrell at 12 and shoe horn Tuilagi in at 13? What is going to happen at 9 and 8?

                                                      The answer to all those questions is fuck knows. 😬

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                                                        nostrildamus @Bones last edited by

                                                        @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                        Hopefully Eddie tries to goad the ABs and it motivates them.

                                                        If that makes ya feel better then swing for the stars!

                                                        I find it pretty funny to think the professional ABs playing England at Twickenham in their final match of the year after a lacklustre showing against Scotland - would need a known troll to be a bit mean just so they can be motivated.

                                                        I suspect you are bored so you are just trying to create your own angle.
                                                        I didn't say the above.
                                                        Eddie plays mind games. They amuse me. But I hope if he plays them against the ABs they backfire. I am after all an ABs fan.
                                                        I didn't say that the ABs lack motivation. But anything that augments that motivation is good.
                                                        I understand though if the distinction is too subtle for you.

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                                                        • Bones
                                                          Bones @nostrildamus last edited by

                                                          @nostrildamus fuck I hope it happens otherwise we don't have a chance. Where's the motivation otherwise.

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                                                          • MiketheSnow
                                                            MiketheSnow @Catogrande last edited by

                                                            @Catogrande said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                            For all the talk about the AB selection , I feel the England selection to be both more interesting and more problematic.

                                                            Have Eddie’s recent selections been of any help in his “learnings”? 😄 S Foster. (Amusingly that came out as Fister, what that says about my browsing history is worrying). Has he a much clearer view on his starting XV than me might believe? Will he persist with Farrell at 12 and shoe horn Tuilagi in at 13? What is going to happen at 9 and 8?

                                                            The answer to all those questions is fuck knows. 😬

                                                            Van at 9 definitely

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                                                              ARHS last edited by

                                                              Itoje at 6 still??

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                                                              • Bones
                                                                Bones @ARHS last edited by

                                                                @ARHS I hope so, he's been average there.

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                                                                • Catogrande
                                                                  Catogrande @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                  @MiketheSnow

                                                                  Definitely if you or I or anyone else but Eddie were picking the team.

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                                                                  • Catogrande
                                                                    Catogrande @ARHS last edited by

                                                                    @ARHS said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                                    Itoje at 6 still??

                                                                    I'd like to think "no way" but...

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                                                                      BerniesCorner last edited by

                                                                      Current weather forecast, rain. Going to be good. AB forwards and JB direct at 12. A game for the purists. Yeah.

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                                                                      • MiketheSnow
                                                                        MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                        Backline

                                                                        BB
                                                                        Telea
                                                                        Reiko
                                                                        JB
                                                                        Reece
                                                                        Mo
                                                                        Smith

                                                                        TJ, DMac, ALB

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                                                                          nostrildamus @Bones last edited by

                                                                          @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                                          @nostrildamus fuck I hope it happens otherwise we don't have a chance. Where's the motivation otherwise.

                                                                          I understand though if the distinction is too subtle for you.
                                                                          I understand.

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                                                                          • Bones
                                                                            Bones @nostrildamus last edited by

                                                                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                                            @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                                            @nostrildamus fuck I hope it happens otherwise we don't have a chance. Where's the motivation otherwise.

                                                                            I understand though if the distinction is too subtle for you.
                                                                            I understand.

                                                                            So subtle I need extra motivation, just like the ABs.

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                                                                              nostrildamus @Bones last edited by

                                                                              @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                                              So subtle I need extra motivation, just like the ABs.

                                                                              Doesn't seem like you need any to keep this thread going 🙂

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                                                                                pakman last edited by

                                                                                Ofa/Sami/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Paps/Scooter/RD/Nugget/Richie/Jordie/Ioane (R)/CC/Telea/BB

                                                                                Bench is where it gets interesting...

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                                                                                • Stargazer
                                                                                  Stargazer @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                                  @MiketheSnow Dmac isn't in the ABs. He'll join the Baabaas this week.

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                                                                                  • MiketheSnow
                                                                                    MiketheSnow @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                                                                    @MiketheSnow Dmac isn't in the ABs. He'll join the Baabaas this week.

                                                                                    With Foster obviously not trusting Perofeta, if Mo gets injured I'd be far more confident with DMac going to 10 than BB

                                                                                    You pick your best 23

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