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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Bovidae said in GNR:

    I saw Slash with Myles Kennedy on vocals a few years ago. A much better use of my money.

    I find Slash ( and Angus Young for that matter ) hard to rate in terms of pure guitar playing ability.

    Being a bit of a music snob I don’t think they hold a candle to others but then again they play some cool stuff over some absolutely iconic rock songs…..

    Both having a very unique look helps too.

    Slash is the last of a breed though, can anyone honestly name a guitar god that came out after him ?

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    @MN5 said in GNR:

    Slash is the last of a breed though, can anyone honestly name a guitar god that came out after him ?

    It depends what genre of music you like or think is influential.

    I saw Slash at G-Taranaki which had a number of guitar heroes on the bill like Uli Jon Roth, Vinnie Moore, Jennifer Batten and Leslie West. Jason Eaton was standing nearby in the crowd.

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    @Bovidae said in GNR:

    @MN5 said in GNR:

    Slash is the last of a breed though, can anyone honestly name a guitar god that came out after him ?

    It depends what genre of music you like or think is influential.

    I saw Slash at G-Taranaki which had a number of guitar heroes on the bill like Uli Jon Roth, Vinnie Moore, Jennifer Batten and Leslie West. Jason Eaton was standing nearby in the crowd.

    He’s the only person who’s name I recognise. I think this answers the question !

    What is he like as a guitarist ?

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    @MN5 Interesting. A few months ago, I remember Mariner said that System Of A Down was probably the last time anybody did anything really new with heavy rock / metal. At the time, I thought that can't be right, but the more I thought about it, the only thing I could think of was Royal Blood. Although I'm not quite sure they are different enough.

    This question is very similar. Has there been another iconic guitarist since Slash? Racking my brain of all the guitarists I view as iconic, bassist too, they are all the wrong side of 50. I genuinely can't even think of one that would be in his 40's, let alone 30's.

    The closest I've got is Frusciante. And he's 52.

    Don't agree with the look thing though. I would recognise (I think) all of what I would consider iconic guitarists even those who look rather plain these days (Clapton, Gilmour, Hatfield etc).

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    @MajorRage said in Guitarists:

    This question is very similar. Has there been another iconic guitarist since Slash? Racking my brain of all the guitarists I view as iconic, bassist too, they are all the wrong side of 50. I genuinely can't even think of one that would be in his 40's, let alone 30's.
    The closest I've got is Frusciante. And he's 52.

    I was thinking Tom Morello who I guess came to prominence slightly after Slash but he's already 58.

    I also had no idea until I read via wiki that his dad was Kenyan.

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    @MN5 Surely you've at least heard of Batten. She was Michael Jackson's touring guitarist for over a decade and had a distinctive look (big blonde hair). She also recorded and toured with Jeff Beck.

    As to younger guitarists, I've mentioned Guthrie Govan before. He was praised in his early 20s (now 50) but isn't mainstream. I could also name others from the prog scene. I don't equate iconic/influential to popular, more what their peers and other musicians say.

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    Even Johnny Marr is closer to 60 than 50.

    For young rock players that guy in Greta van Fleet can cut some riffs even if he is channelling the rock gods that went before him.

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    @Nepia Good shout, I'm surprised he's that old too!

    @Crucial said in Guitarists:

    Even Johnny Marr is closer to 60 than 50.

    For young rock players that guy in Greta van Fleet can cut some riffs even if he is channelling the rock gods that went before him.

    Thats a good one, but I agree. Too much of a Zepp rip off to be considered an icon!

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    No mention of Jack White? Arguably the most widely known new riff of the last 20 years.

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    @Crucial Saw Jack White a couple of weeks ago in Christchurch. By some way the loudest concert I’ve ever been to. He obviously has an issue with empty air and would usually segue from one song to the next by feeding back one guitar while he strapped of another then eventually letting his mixing guy fade the first one down.

    Anyway, he was all kinds of awesome. Started with Taking Me Back and didn’t really let up for 2 hours. Of course at Seven Nation Army, which I bet is the one you’re referring to, the place went apeshit.

    Marvellous.

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    @MN5 said in Guitarists:

    @Bovidae said in GNR:

    @MN5 said in GNR:

    Slash is the last of a breed though, can anyone honestly name a guitar god that came out after him ?

    It depends what genre of music you like or think is influential.

    I saw Slash at G-Taranaki which had a number of guitar heroes on the bill like Uli Jon Roth, Vinnie Moore, Jennifer Batten and Leslie West. Jason Eaton was standing nearby in the crowd.

    He’s the only person who’s name I recognise. I think this answers the question !

    What is he like as a guitarist ?

    How can you never have heard of Leslie West? He pretty much invented heavy. In more ways than one, he himself put out an album called The Great Fatsby. Check him out

    Start here:

    Lots of collaborations too with other legends who always rated him right up there. Ozzy, Bonamassa, Slash and this earlier spanker from Gillan

    And my all time favourite from him:

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    @JC said in Guitarists:

    @Crucial Saw Jack White a couple of weeks ago in Christchurch. By some way the loudest concert I’ve ever been to. He obviously has an issue with empty air and would usually segue from one song to the next by feeding back one guitar while he strapped of another then eventually letting his mixing guy fade the first one down.

    Anyway, he was all kinds of awesome. Started with Taking Me Back and didn’t really let up for 2 hours. Of course at Seven Nation Army, which I bet is the one you’re referring to, the place went apeshit.

    Marvellous.

    Jack White was in NZ? How did I miss that?
    Edit: Ahh... I see the Christchurch gig was the 1 and only. WTaF?

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    @Kruse Yep, we travelled from The Bay to Christchurch specifically to see him. Well worth the effort.

    Also, Christchurch Town Hall has the JC seal of approval

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    Jack White, John Frusiante ( especially ) and Tom Morello have all done some awesome stuff but I’m not sure I’d call them guitar hero’s as such.

    JF recorded Mother’s Milk at 18 years of age. Incredible stuff

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    @Bovidae said in Guitarists:

    @MN5 Surely you've at least heard of Batten. She was Michael Jackson's touring guitarist for over a decade and had a distinctive look (big blonde hair). She also recorded and toured with Jeff Beck.

    As to younger guitarists, I've mentioned Guthrie Govan before. He was praised in his early 20s (now 50) but isn't mainstream. I could also name others from the prog scene. I don't equate iconic/influential to popular, more what their peers and other musicians say.

    It was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment. They’re not mainstream icons like Slash and Angus.

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    @MN5 said in Guitarists:

    @Bovidae said in GNR:

    I saw Slash with Myles Kennedy on vocals a few years ago. A much better use of my money.

    I find Slash ( and Angus Young for that matter ) hard to rate in terms of pure guitar playing ability.

    Being a bit of a music snob I don’t think they hold a candle to others but then again they play some cool stuff over some absolutely iconic rock songs…..

    Both having a very unique look helps too.

    Slash is the last of a breed though, can anyone honestly name a guitar god that came out after him ?

    Just a bit?

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Guitarists:

    @MN5 said in Guitarists:

    @Bovidae said in GNR:

    I saw Slash with Myles Kennedy on vocals a few years ago. A much better use of my money.

    I find Slash ( and Angus Young for that matter ) hard to rate in terms of pure guitar playing ability.

    Being a bit of a music snob I don’t think they hold a candle to others but then again they play some cool stuff over some absolutely iconic rock songs…..

    Both having a very unique look helps too.

    Slash is the last of a breed though, can anyone honestly name a guitar god that came out after him ?

    Just a bit?

    I was being modest

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    @JC said in Guitarists:

    Lots of collaborations too with other legends who always rated him right up there. Ozzy, Bonamassa, Slash and this earlier spanker from Gillan

    Joe Bonamassa would be a good choice for a younger guitarist.

    Scott Holiday has got his own unique style, but most probably haven't even heard of his band - Rival Sons. He's 30.

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    For what it’s worth my personal top 10 would be like so…..

    I look at these guys as guitarists first, music I listen to second ( ie some of these guys I don’t particularly go out of my way to listen to nowadays )

    1 ) Jimi Hendrix ( changed the game, I don’t need to say anymore, rock owes so much to his legacy )
    2 ) Jeff Beck ( amazingly original, dynamic and creative. NO ONE can play like him )
    3 ) Richie Blackmore ( Godfather of shred, VASTLY underrated and so much more to him than “Smoke on the Water” )
    4 ) Jimmy Page ( guitarist of my favourite band of all time, cool riffs and licks )
    5 ) Johnny Winter ( best slide guitarist of all time )
    6 ) Stevie Ray Vaughan ( such power and feeling in his playing )
    7 ) Dave Gilmour ( he did less is more so well, amazing feel )
    8 ) Tony Iommi ( invented a genre, no one played darker than he did )
    9 ) Carlos Santana ( awesome distinctive Latin style )
    10 ) Prince ( people forget how much this guy could shred cos of all the other strings to his bow, but he was awesome )

    No Slash. No Angus. No Clapton. No EVH.

    I’ll probably look back on this post and realise I’ve made some big omissions……but there you go.

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    @MN5 said in Guitarists:

    For what it’s worth my personal top 10 would be like so…..

    I look at these guys as guitarists first, music I listen to second ( ie some of these guys I don’t particularly go out of my way to listen to nowadays )

    1 ) Jimi Hendrix ( changed the game, I don’t need to say anymore, rock owes so much to his legacy )
    2 ) Jeff Beck ( amazingly original, dynamic and creative. NO ONE can play like him )
    3 ) Richie Blackmore ( Godfather of shred, VASTLY underrated and so much more to him than “Smoke on the Water” )
    4 ) Jimmy Page ( guitarist of my favourite band of all time, cool riffs and licks )
    5 ) Johnny Winter ( best slide guitarist of all time )
    6 ) Stevie Ray Vaughan ( such power and feeling in his playing )
    7 ) Dave Gilmour ( he did less is more so well, amazing feel )
    8 ) Tony Iommi ( invented a genre, no one played darker than he did )
    9 ) Carlos Santana ( awesome distinctive Latin style )
    10 ) Prince ( people forget how much this guy could shred cos of all the other strings to his bow, but he was awesome )

    No Slash. No Angus. No Clapton. No EVH.

    I’ll probably look back on this post and realise I’ve made some big omissions……but there you go.

    To me when you are talking R&R players then you have to give a nod to those that came before given that most of those in the list were literally riffing off them. The Chuck Berry's, Buddy Guy's and Muddy Waters' that took Robert Johnson's blues and elevated it to new levels. Even just one of them.
    Some would also dismiss your list for omitting Duane Allman.

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