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    Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!

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    • Crucial
      Crucial last edited by Duluth

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300785129/dave-rennie-sacked-as-wallabies-coach-replaced-by-eddie-jones

      Well, well, well. Who'd of thunk?

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      • mariner4life
        mariner4life @Crucial last edited by

        @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300785129/dave-rennie-sacked-as-wallabies-coach-replaced-by-eddie-jones

        Well, well, well. Who'd of thunk?

        lol, well, go them

        made my post nominating him for Coach of the Year age like milk didn't it?

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        • taniwharugby
          taniwharugby last edited by

          Is that what Eddie told them in his interview?

          “It is a major coup for Australian Rugby to have the best coach in the world return home to coach the iconic Wallabies and to oversee the Wallaroos program,” McLennan said.

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          • gt12
            gt12 last edited by

            Ha ha ha.

            That was truly funny news to wake up to.

            The Wallabies are likely to be more dangerous now - against us at least.

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              hkkiwi @taniwharugby last edited by

              @taniwharugby Eddie is possibly the best at getting a team to improve/turn around in his first year. Biggest years for him with all of Japan, Tahs, Wallabies, South Africa and England all came in his first years with those teams. But a 5 year gig ….

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              • Nepia
                Nepia last edited by Nepia

                I was thinking fair enough at first, until I read the part about them signing Eddie to a 5 year deal. All the evidence shows Eddie's a couple of years kind of guy.

                Edit: Jinx @hkkiwi beat me to it.

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                • NTA
                  NTA last edited by

                  This is peak RA, I might add.

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                  • Crucial
                    Crucial @NTA last edited by

                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                    This is peak RA, I might add.

                    Peak RA would have been Alan Jones, not Eddie Jones. (I did double check).

                    The assistant line up will be interesting. Will Larkham get called back?

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                    • Bovidae
                      Bovidae last edited by

                      McLennan is the one who needs to be sacked. I thought that RA doesn't have any money?

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                      • taniwharugby
                        taniwharugby @hkkiwi last edited by

                        @hkkiwi guess it depends where the start line is, as others have mentioned, with so many close results last year and the injury toll, Aus were only a few bounces away from a very good season...Eddie usually starts with a lower bar I reckon, making the turnaround seem very good.

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                        • mariner4life
                          mariner4life @taniwharugby last edited by

                          @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                          @hkkiwi guess it depends where the start line is, as others have mentioned, with so many close results last year and the injury toll, Aus were only a few bounces away from a very good season...Eddie usually starts with a lower bar I reckon, making the turnaround seem very good.

                          if the results are good, then the narrative will be that Eddie rescued the team that lost to Italy.

                          Large portions of the Australian Rugby fraternity fucking hate the Wallabies being coached by a foreign type, so they'll be hoping that this works.

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                          • taniwharugby
                            taniwharugby @mariner4life last edited by

                            @mariner4life yeah the whole foreigner thing will always be a thorn to some, and I'd expect the same for us too, even if results went well...

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                            • Crucial
                              Crucial last edited by

                              I always think that Aussie sports teams have to operate with a real cocky attitude to do well and that 'foreigners' struggle to get that attitude and approach happening. If the Wallabies get early points and their tails up they are a very hard proposition.
                              Eddie will do well and will make things difficult on the other side of the RWC draw.
                              England v Argentina becomes a key match now, I reckon.

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                              • Stargazer
                                Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                As the stuff article says, Jones' first target will be the Bledisloe Cup.

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                                • mariner4life
                                  mariner4life @Stargazer last edited by

                                  @Stargazer said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                  As the stuff article says, Jones' first target will be the Bledisloe Cup.

                                  oh, true? naaah, bullshit

                                  what an incredibly redundant statement

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                                  • NTA
                                    NTA @mariner4life last edited by

                                    @mariner4life said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                    @hkkiwi guess it depends where the start line is, as others have mentioned, with so many close results last year and the injury toll, Aus were only a few bounces away from a very good season...Eddie usually starts with a lower bar I reckon, making the turnaround seem very good.

                                    if the results are good, then the narrative will be that Eddie rescued the team that lost to Italy.

                                    Large portions of the Australian Rugby fraternity fucking hate the Wallabies being coached by a foreign type, so they'll be hoping that this works.

                                    And if the Wallabies are instantly successful, a lot of the fringe supporters will come back.

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                                    • Stargazer
                                      Stargazer @mariner4life last edited by

                                      @mariner4life said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                      @Stargazer said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                      As the stuff article says, Jones' first target will be the Bledisloe Cup.

                                      oh, true? naaah, bullshit

                                      what an incredibly redundant statement

                                      Like about 80% of the posts on the Fern.

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                                      • Stargazer
                                        Stargazer last edited by

                                        The official media release:

                                        Rugby Australia  /  Jan 15

                                        Eddie Jones appointed Wallabies head coach | Latest Rugby News | Wallabies Rugby

                                        Eddie Jones appointed Wallabies head coach | Latest Rugby News | Wallabies Rugby
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                                        • RoninWC
                                          RoninWC last edited by

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                                          • TheMojoman
                                            TheMojoman @taniwharugby last edited by

                                            @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                            Is that what Eddie told them in his interview?

                                            “It is a major coup for Australian Rugby to have the best coach in the world return home to coach the iconic Wallabies and to oversee the Wallaroos program,” McLennan said.

                                            McLennan is on drugs. Incredibly stupid less than a year out from RWC and only makes sense if their focus is RWC 2027 in Australia. I like Eddie Jones alot but he's not the team/culture builder that Rennie was. He's what Aussie's call a shit-stirrer and IMO Rugby Aus will regret this in a couple of seasons time.

                                            Question for the Fern - is Rennie now a legit contender for the AB job? Razor has Super form and longevity but he doesn't have Rennie's international experience at both club & test level.

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                                            • G
                                              game_film last edited by

                                              With Skelton, Bell, Tupou, Valetini there’s enough for Eddie to work with there. They’ve got the easier half of the RWC draw. Harsh to rug pull Rennie though. I guess the thinking was now or never and Eddie being one of their own swung it. NZRU need to go cap in hand and get Rennie back somewhere asap. Eddie vs Razor next year. Goodness me. Can’t wait.

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                                              • TheMojoman
                                                TheMojoman @NTA last edited by

                                                @NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                @mariner4life said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                @hkkiwi guess it depends where the start line is, as others have mentioned, with so many close results last year and the injury toll, Aus were only a few bounces away from a very good season...Eddie usually starts with a lower bar I reckon, making the turnaround seem very good.

                                                if the results are good, then the narrative will be that Eddie rescued the team that lost to Italy.

                                                Large portions of the Australian Rugby fraternity fucking hate the Wallabies being coached by a foreign type, so they'll be hoping that this works.

                                                And if the Wallabies are instantly successful, a lot of the fringe supporters will come back.

                                                It's good for the Wallabies to be coached by an Aussie. TBF none of the Kiwi coaches the Wallabies have had, have worked out.

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                                                • Duluth
                                                  Duluth last edited by

                                                  All Blacks should hire Rennie as defence coach

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                                                  • Dan54
                                                    Dan54 @Duluth last edited by

                                                    @Duluth said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                    All Blacks should hire Rennie as defence coach

                                                    Bugger off, RA likes employing rejects from other countries, we don't want to start it.
                                                    RA wanted Deans after NZR didn't want him, now they want Eddie after Poms don't want him. Mind you we should of known he was buggered when Honest Hamish said in September he was the man to lead Wallabies into next WC, boy if that prick said the earth was round I would get suspicious.

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                                                      SBW1 @Dan54 last edited by

                                                      @Dan54 Rennie has done a deal to go to Japan. He would not go a miss with a role at Super level or in some capacity at least. This also begs the question of whether Scott gets to have some role to play with the Abs this world cup. Not expecting this but not surprised by Jones returning.

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                                                      • taniwharugby
                                                        taniwharugby @Duluth last edited by

                                                        @Duluth you'd like to think that whoever is applying for the AB job (be it Foz, Razor, JJ, assuming Rennie wont) will be talking with him.

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                                                        • Dan54
                                                          Dan54 @SBW1 last edited by

                                                          @SBW1 Makes it a little interesting doesn't it for Razor doesn't it? He won't or probably not interested in assistant roles with ABs, but if he misses the nest time job comes up next year, perhaps we now seen the Wallaby job gone, (and no overseas coach should touch them now) and if Poms stick with Bothwick?

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                                                          • Dan54
                                                            Dan54 @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                            @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                            @Duluth you'd like to think that whoever is applying for the AB job (be it Foz, Razor, JJ, assuming Rennie wont) will be talking with him.

                                                            Unfortunately will Rennie have to rebuild his reputation again? Geez not many get an international gig after Aussie have dumped you.

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                                                              SBW1 @Dan54 last edited by

                                                              @Dan54 This now means Razor has to get some role in this year's World Cup campaign.

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                                                              • Crucial
                                                                Crucial @SBW1 last edited by

                                                                @SBW1 said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                @Dan54 This now means Razor has to get some role in this year's World Cup campaign.

                                                                Why?

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                                                                • taniwharugby
                                                                  taniwharugby @Dan54 last edited by

                                                                  @Dan54 said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                  Unfortunately will Rennie have to rebuild his reputation again?

                                                                  dunno, I reckon he has done enough in NZ rugby to serve him well, and from an outside perspective, you can see he has made improvements although Aus Rugby and he werent without thier issues.

                                                                  NZR seem to love that International experience....

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                                                                  • NTA
                                                                    NTA @Crucial last edited by

                                                                    @Crucial said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                                                    This is peak RA, I might add.

                                                                    Peak RA would have been Alan Jones, not Eddie Jones. (I did double check).

                                                                    I stand corrected.

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                                                                    • TheMojoman
                                                                      TheMojoman @Duluth last edited by

                                                                      @Duluth said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                      All Blacks should hire Rennie as defence coach

                                                                      Now if they could work Razor, Rennie & Schmidt into a workable trio ala - Henry, Smith and Hansen? Probably too ambitious but if it could work?

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                                                                      • mariner4life
                                                                        mariner4life last edited by

                                                                        genuinely laughing at using Eddie's "world cup win percentage" as this amazing thing.

                                                                        Generally, the big teams lose once a world up. If you win your pool games and lose your quarter, boom! 80% win percentage achieved!

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                                                                        • antipodean
                                                                          antipodean last edited by

                                                                          So RA replace a bloke that lost against Ireland and France (ranked one and two in the world) by three and one points respectively, beat Argentina, Scotland and South Africa at home with a bloke who lost to Ireland by 17, France by 12 and lost to Argentina, Scotland and South Africa..? Have I got that right?

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                                                                          • NTA
                                                                            NTA @mariner4life last edited by

                                                                            @mariner4life said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                            genuinely laughing at using Eddie's "world cup win percentage" as this amazing thing.

                                                                            Generally, the big teams lose once a world up. If you win your pool games and lose your quarter, boom! 80% win percentage achieved!

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                                                                            • Dan54
                                                                              Dan54 @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                              @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                              @Dan54 said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                              Unfortunately will Rennie have to rebuild his reputation again?

                                                                              dunno, I reckon he has done enough in NZ rugby to serve him well, and from an outside perspective, you can see he has made improvements although Aus Rugby and he werent without thier issues.

                                                                              NZR seem to love that International experience....

                                                                              Yep taniwhai, but Deans seemed to of never really got another gig, and his rep was probably even higher than Rennies?

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                                                                              • taniwharugby
                                                                                taniwharugby @Dan54 last edited by

                                                                                @Dan54 did he ever reapply for the AB job after he left Aus?

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                                                                                • Stargazer
                                                                                  Stargazer @Dan54 last edited by

                                                                                  @Dan54 Didn't Deans "get another gig", or didn't he "go for another (international) gig"? Did he even apply?

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                                                                                  • Crucial
                                                                                    Crucial @Dan54 last edited by

                                                                                    @Dan54 said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                                    @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                                    @Dan54 said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

                                                                                    Unfortunately will Rennie have to rebuild his reputation again?

                                                                                    dunno, I reckon he has done enough in NZ rugby to serve him well, and from an outside perspective, you can see he has made improvements although Aus Rugby and he werent without thier issues.

                                                                                    NZR seem to love that International experience....

                                                                                    Yep taniwhai, but Deans seemed to of never really got another gig, and his rep was probably even higher than Rennies?

                                                                                    He's doing very nicely for himself in Japan without the stresses of test rugby.

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