All Blacks 2023
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And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
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The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
That’s a long bow.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Can’t see Love making the ABs until after the WC tbh, unless injuries strike. Also it will be interesting where the Canes select Josh Moorby, in his rookie season last year he had that 15 jersey locked down.
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I think the main thing of interest in that article is that Barrett will play 12 in Super Rugby this year.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Can’t see Love making the ABs until after the WC tbh, unless injuries strike. Also it will be interesting where the Canes select Josh Moorby, in his rookie season last year he had that 15 jersey locked down.
that's not true, it was Love who was the starting 15 by the end of last season
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@Asterik6 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Can’t see Love making the ABs until after the WC tbh, unless injuries strike. Also it will be interesting where the Canes select Josh Moorby, in his rookie season last year he had that 15 jersey locked down.
that's not true, it was Love who was the starting 15 by the end of last season
Nah it wasn’t mate, Josh Moorby was at 15 and rightfully so after the season he had. Love was injured.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Moorby shift to 14 and Love start at 15 after his form in the NPC.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Can’t see Love making the ABs until after the WC tbh, unless injuries strike. Also it will be interesting where the Canes select Josh Moorby, in his rookie season last year he had that 15 jersey locked down.
Agree. He's a good shot post BB and RM depending on the coach.
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Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
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@Darren perfect as a Hurricanes lock
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@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
Not much different to Will Jordan or BB.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
Not much different to Will Jordan or BB.
Both of them would be at least 2 or 3 inches taller than Love and heavier.
Love would be about the same as Mils.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
Not much different to Will Jordan or BB.
Both of them would be at least 2 or 3 inches taller than Love and heavier.
Love would be about the same as Mils.
Judging by the never reliable internet search BB is 4cm taller and 1kg heavier. Jordan is 5cm taller and 5kg heavier.
I'm guessing that Love (given his age and time in pro camps) has probably put a bit of bulk on since that stat as well.
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@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
Damian McKenzie says hi
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Nice to see Holland recognise how good Love was during the NPC.
I think 2024 is more likely for Love and the ABs but I wouldn't rule it out for 2023 - he could make quite the bench impact player.
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@MN5 Yep as does Perofeta, but good that a coach letting everyone know he has a good un!
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@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
Christian Cullen, Stephen Perofeta, Damian McKenzie + more say hi.
I see both Love and Moorby pushing for All Black selection next year.
We also have to remember Nehe Milner-Skudder’s year in 2015. He went from a nobody to a WC star in the space of 7-8months, anything is possible.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
Not much different to Will Jordan or BB.
Both of them would be at least 2 or 3 inches taller than Love and heavier.
Love would be about the same as Mils.
Love is apparently 1.83m high and 90kg, a behemoth compared to Dmac.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
Not much different to Will Jordan or BB.
Both of them would be at least 2 or 3 inches taller than Love and heavier.
Love would be about the same as Mils.
Love is apparently 1.83m high and 90kg, a behemoth compared to Dmac.
I’d rather be tackled by Ruben I think. DMac has that feral Southland edge.
Talking about feral southlanders, I met Paul ‘Ginge’ Henderson in passing a few weeks ago. (No breakfast)
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
Doesn't Love just seem to small for AB level 15?
Not much different to Will Jordan or BB.
Both of them would be at least 2 or 3 inches taller than Love and heavier.
Love would be about the same as Mils.
Love is apparently 1.83m high and 90kg, a behemoth compared to Dmac.
Aaron Cruden says to hold his beer
I don’t buy this “too small” shit for a second. He’s not a bloody blindside flanker. If he can make tackles round the ankles and isn’t afraid to put his body on the line then he’s big enough. Especially if we play Jordie outside him, a willing carthorse of static ball.
That’s not saying he has a realistic shot at this years squad , but if past RWCs have taught us anything, it’s that players not initially involved should keep their phones on
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@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
Love is apparently 1.83m high and 90kg, a behemoth compared to Dmac.
Aaron Cruden says to hold his beer
Because his hands aren't big enough? (I can't give Cruden shit, an exciting player with a big heart IMO).
I don’t buy this “too small” shit for a second. He’s not a bloody blindside flanker. If he can make tackles round the ankles and isn’t afraid to put his body on the line then he’s big enough. Especially if we play Jordie outside him, a willing carthorse of static ball.
I'd rather have a smaller man at 10 than 15. And Love would be nearly as heavy as Carter and taller. Carter was such a solid tackler his size was never a problem.
But at 15 I'd rather see a bigger player. Will Jordan doesn't look heavy but he's rangy.That’s not saying he has a realistic shot at this years squad , but if past RWCs have taught us anything, it’s that players not initially involved should keep their phones on
-play players in their position
-don't eat roadside food
-and get Barnes to specsaversa good coach would probably help too but there's another thread for that.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Not good news for Riley Higgins and PUJ.
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@cgrant Well with the AB rest protocols etc, I can see them getting a bit of time, will suit how they would want to hanle Higgins who I suggest will only be treated as a project player, and wouldn't expect much time anyway (like Lakai)
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@cgrant said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Not good news for Riley Higgins and PUJ.
isn't PUJ more a 13?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@cgrant said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Not good news for Riley Higgins and PUJ.
isn't PUJ more a 13?
Yep cna play either well, without being a worldbeater.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@cgrant said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Not good news for Riley Higgins and PUJ.
isn't PUJ more a 13?
I did a quick count of where he played for the Hurricanes last season. I think this is accurate.
4 starts at 12
1 start at 13Sullivan was generally the Hurricanes preferred 13 with Proctor also getting some time
PUJ had injuries, but when fit, his usual spot was on the bench
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@cgrant said in All Blacks 2023:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
And with that positional switch likely to remain leading into this year’s World Cup, Foster would have been pleased by Holland confirming that Barrett would spend the majority of the Super Rugby season with No 12 on his back.
Whole lotta Love: Barrett move to increase chances for ABs bolter
The Hurricanes’ plans for Jordie Barrett should enhance the All Blacks’ World Cup chances.
Not good news for Riley Higgins and PUJ.
Higgins will spend a lot of time coming off the bench this year, same with Lakai I feel. Over time I think Higgins will grab one of those centre positions, he’s got the size, the skillset and the smarts to go very far in this game, but no need to rush him considering his age.
Also, isn’t PUJ out for half the season anyway? He’s still recovering from shoulder surgery?
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
Also, isn’t PUJ out for half the season anyway?
That goes without saying when referencing either brother doesn't it?
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@Duluth yes Canes coaches played him off the bench and usually at 12 but for the ABs as I recall he played at 13 off the bench (or was it 12?) and he just looks better at 13 (and a poster on here agreed with me a year or two ago)
'Should make it into All Blacks': Peter Umaga-Jensen impresses with first half brace of tries as All Blacks selectors watch on
Don't be surprised to hear calls for Peter Umaga-Jensen to earn a surprise call-up to the All Blacks squad in the wake of the Hurricanes' Super Rugby Aotearoa clash with the Chiefs.
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Let's see if he makes it through the season...
Dane Coles to retire at the end of 2023
Dane Coles is set to leave everything on the field this season, which will be his last in professional rugby.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:
Let's see if he makes it through the season...
Dane Coles to retire at the end of 2023
Dane Coles is set to leave everything on the field this season, which will be his last in professional rugby.
I see it says last in pro rugby, I see Coles playing for Horwhenua/Kapiti for a few games next year.You read it here first!!
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watching the 6 Nations, especially Ireland, it has rammed home to me that the ABs are really missing a front line breakdown menace.
Cane isn't that guy. I'm not actually sure Papali'i is either. Savea is good for a last ditch turnover but he's not a battle in the trenches guy. And who ever we have at 6 definitely aren't. Ireland have two in VdF and Doris is a massive pest. And they create a constant stream of shit ball for their opponents.
I'm battling to think of who around the country fits the bill?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
watching the 6 Nations, especially Ireland, it has rammed home to me that the ABs are really missing a front line breakdown menace.
Cane isn't that guy. I'm not actually sure Papali'i is either. Savea is good for a last ditch turnover but he's not a battle in the trenches guy. And who ever we have at 6 definitely aren't. Ireland have two in VdF and Doris is a massive pest. And they create a constant stream of shit ball for their opponents.
I'm battling to think of who around the country fits the bill?
Part of the problem IMO is that our comps are 'hard' on spoilers. Hopefully the new WR directives are closer to that with stricter ruling of 'off feet'. When Ireland were here last year we saw their players actually lying on top of rucks and disrupting ball and getting away with it. I hope that changes.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
watching the 6 Nations, especially Ireland, it has rammed home to me that the ABs are really missing a front line breakdown menace.
Cane isn't that guy. I'm not actually sure Papali'i is either. Savea is good for a last ditch turnover but he's not a battle in the trenches guy. And who ever we have at 6 definitely aren't. Ireland have two in VdF and Doris is a massive pest. And they create a constant stream of shit ball for their opponents.
I'm battling to think of who around the country fits the bill?
S Barrett can get a little scrappy..
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
watching the 6 Nations, especially Ireland, it has rammed home to me that the ABs are really missing a front line breakdown menace.
Cane isn't that guy. I'm not actually sure Papali'i is either. Savea is good for a last ditch turnover but he's not a battle in the trenches guy. And who ever we have at 6 definitely aren't. Ireland have two in VdF and Doris is a massive pest. And they create a constant stream of shit ball for their opponents.
I'm battling to think of who around the country fits the bill?
Hugh Renton has statistically been the biggest pest in the breakdown the last few years - but I don't think he'd ever be rounded enough that the All Blacks will look at him
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
I'm battling to think of who around the country fits the bill?
Boshier?
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
I'm battling to think of who around the country fits the bill?
Boshier?
The brother? Or has Lachlan returned? I read he was happy in Japan: https://www.instagram.com/lachybosh/
