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    Stoli decides to fatbust for 07 atkins style

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      stoli last edited by

      Well I have decided to again get rid of the excess kgs. About 3 years ago I did the Atkins diet for just under a year and lost 32 kgs that was combined with exercise.<br />
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      Then went on a 6 week Europe tour involving lots of alcohol and food and then returned home and couldn't be arsed exercising and got back into bad eating habits. Hence almost got back to the old weight.<br />
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      So for a new year I have decided to try again to get the weight off. Will be using Atkins again as it worked for me the 1st time and will combine with exercise

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      • Kirwan
        Kirwan last edited by

        Atkins is a pretty unhealthy way to lose weight. Your goal should be to be healthy, as well as thinner.

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          stoli last edited by

          Atkins is done properly is not that unhealthy. Have done a lot of reading on it. <br />
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          What is unhealthy is to just done the induction stage non-stop which is about the only part most people read about.

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            Guest last edited by

            If you take it to the extreme and eat "as much fat as you like" as per the way some people read the Atkins diet, then its quite bad for you. Basically its elimination of carbs and lower threshholds on fat...

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            • Kirwan
              Kirwan last edited by

              [quote name='stoli']<br />
              [b]Atkins is done properly is not that unhealthy[/b]. Have done a lot of reading on it. <br />
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              What is unhealthy is to just done the induction stage non-stop which is about the only part most people read about.<br />
              [/quote]<br />
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              Not what I have read. Supposed to take ten years off your life if you stay on it, not to mention the strain on your kidneys.

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              • BartMan
                BartMan last edited by

                Any DIET is bad, as you go on it, lose weight, and then gain it when you stop doing the 'diet'.  As you proved Stoli.  So don't diet - change your whole bloody liefstyle and eating habits of a lifetime - that'll do it.

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                  Guest last edited by

                  It is a lifestyle change that you can continue Bart - but as he said: Stopped exercising. Which is the key thing...

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                    Fullermorg last edited by

                    [quote name='Kirwan']<br />
                    [quote name='stoli']<br />
                    [b]Atkins is done properly is not that unhealthy[/b]. Have done a lot of reading on it. <br />
                    <br />
                    What is unhealthy is to just done the induction stage non-stop which is about the only part most people read about.<br />
                    [/quote]<br />
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                    Not what I have read. Supposed to take ten years off your life if you stay on it, not to mention the strain on your kidneys.<br />
                    [/quote]<br />
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                    Which ten?<br />
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                    The last ten years, when i am shitting my pants in an old people's home???<br />
                    <br />
                    "Atkins!!! Get your fat ass over here boy!"

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                      stoli last edited by

                      Bartman<br />
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                      I agree to certain extent but as NTA says stopping the exercise was the biggest mistake along with coming off Atkins completely to allow myself to enjoy the travel. What I should have done was work my way off by introducing carbs slowly till i found my point of equilibrium at which stage I would know what I could do to maintain a [ro[er balance going forward.<br />
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                      That is what was supposed to happen it just didn't in my case this time I will finish it off properly. Along with the fact there is now low carb beers which will make the whole process much more pleasant

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                      • aucklandwarlord
                        aucklandwarlord last edited by

                        My flatmate when I was at uni was a pretty big guy, he went on the atkins diet basically because he didnt wanna cut bacon etc out of his diet. When we used to have bbq's he'd pull out a fat slab of steak or have burger patties wrapped between lettuce, and eat bacon and eggs for breakfast etc and he still lost 10kg. He piled the weight back on pretty quickly once he let carbs back into his diet. He reckoned he also had fuck all energy because he was never eating any proper fuel. <br />
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                        Didnt atkins die of a heart attack last year?

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                          stoli last edited by

                          AWL<br />
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                          He died I think the year before from a blow to the head when he slipped on ice outside his NY house. We he died later in hospital from complications from that

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                          • aucklandwarlord
                            aucklandwarlord last edited by

                            [quote name='stoli']<br />
                            AWL<br />
                            <br />
                            He died I think the year before from a blow to the head when he slipped on ice outside his NY house. We he died later in hospital from complications from that<br />
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                            Fair enough, the media love to beat up these types of deaths. All the best with your challenge anyways!

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                              stoli last edited by

                              Well week one of the new stoli is over and a fairly good result of 3.5kgs lost. 1st couple of weeks of Atkins usually brings big losses so was expected

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                                Paj last edited by

                                Good luck there Stoli mate, sounds like the ideal diet for me!

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                                • Kirwan
                                  Kirwan last edited by

                                  [quote name='Paj']<br />
                                  Good luck there Stoli mate, sounds like the ideal diet for me! <br />
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                                  [/quote]<br />
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                                  You'd be in a world of hurt because your job requires so much energy. Take away carbs and work like that and you'll pass out.

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                                    Fullermorg last edited by

                                    [quote name='stoli']<br />
                                    Well week one of the new stoli is over and a fairly good result of 3.5kgs lost. 1st couple of weeks of Atkins usually brings big losses so was expected<br />
                                    [/quote]<br />
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                                    Any chance you could give those 3.5kgs to me?

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                                      Guest last edited by

                                      [quote name='Kirwan']<br />
                                      [quote name='Paj']<br />
                                      Good luck there Stoli mate, sounds like the ideal diet for me! <br />
                                      [/quote]<br />
                                      <br />
                                      You'd be in a world of hurt because your job requires so much energy. Take away carbs and work like that and you'll pass out.<br />
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                                      Yeah that's true Paj - you'd be weaker than a kitten without your sugar, grains and rice.

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                                      • WillieTheWaiter
                                        WillieTheWaiter last edited by

                                        [quote name='NTA']<br />
                                        [quote name='Kirwan']<br />
                                        [quote name='Paj']<br />
                                        Good luck there Stoli mate, sounds like the ideal diet for me! <br />
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                                        You'd be in a world of hurt because your job requires so much energy. Take away carbs and work like that and you'll pass out.<br />
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                                        Yeah that's true Paj - you'd be weaker than a kitten without your sugar, grains and rice.<br />
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                                        nah you come right after a few days when your body starts processing food differently.<br />
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                                        I'm in the Stoli camp - i lost about 20kgs on Atkins, it was all good and i didn't even follow it that 'extremely'.  Never put the weight back on either.<br />
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                                        and it's not unhealthy, in fact, the whole point of Atkins is to eat natural non processed food - the same food the human body has been eating for millions of years.  Only been the last few years when all this processed crap came along that the body just can't deal with.<br />
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                                        and kirwin being a fat cnut is heaps worse than eating this diet short term.  Lose weight to excercise not exercise to lose weight i reckon.  Get the weight down first otherwise you get heaps of other shit going wrong with your body such as knees etc and it's no fun.

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                                        • Kirwan
                                          Kirwan last edited by

                                          This is a pretty fair review of the effectiveness of the diet;<br />
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                                          [url="http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/300503diet.html"]http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_informatio ... 3diet.html[/url]<br />
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                                          The main documented risks of Atkins is the damage to kidneys and bone strength, but this article suggests it increases the risk of some cancers also.<br />
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                                          From a weight loss point of view, the worst thing the article notes is that the diet targets muscle over fat. That makes it harder to maintain any weight loss. As for your weight loss, you're cycling like a bastard aren't you? Also, the reverse Heathrow injection? <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />

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                                            stoli last edited by

                                            Well 2 weeks are gone and so have 4.5kgs which I am happy with as a start especially has have not got into the exercise yet

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                                            • WillieTheWaiter
                                              WillieTheWaiter last edited by

                                              [quote name='Kirwan']<br />
                                              This is a pretty fair review of the effectiveness of the diet;<br />
                                              <br />
                                              [url="http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/300503diet.html"]http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_informatio ... 3diet.html[/url]<br />
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                                              The main documented risks of Atkins is the damage to kidneys and bone strength, but this article suggests it increases the risk of some cancers also.<br />
                                              <br />
                                              From a weight loss point of view, the worst thing the article notes is that the diet targets muscle over fat. That makes it harder to maintain any weight loss. As for your weight loss, you're cycling like a bastard aren't you? Also, the reverse Heathrow injection? <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /><br />
                                              [/quote]<br />
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                                              nah i lost that weight doing atkins in the UK before i came back.<br />
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                                              that article is missing the point of what i've been saying all along - it's all 'long term'.  You couldn't do it long term.<br />
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                                              I did it for only around 3 months, and lost weight drastically while still basically having one 'off day' a week.<br />
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                                              In terms of effectiveness for rapid weight loss, nothing else touches it.  This is the best part about it due to the results people see - and i still disagree that it's that bad - it's only bad when people doing it incorrectly start cooking their meals in tonnes of oil etc.  Atkins is all about eating natural food - the same food the human body has been eating for millions of years.<br />
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                                              Once you come off Atkins you have to adjust your diet - remember if you go back to eating as you used to, of course you'll put the weight back on, it's why you got fat in the first place!<br />
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                                              All I did was cut out carbs at night, and the weight never came back on.<br />
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                                              What i'm doiing now is nothing to do with any of the above, as i'm training anywhere from 2.5 hours a day to 7 hours a day so I need to be basically taking onboard as many carbs as possible.  We shall see what happens once i stop training! <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />

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                                                stoli last edited by

                                                Well my 1st 4 weeks are over and the weight loss total is 7.2kgs.<br />
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                                                Helped by a weeks holiday last week at the beach and a lot of mountain biking through a forest. Though to counter that a bit, beer has been reintroduced to the range of liquid option but only in low-carb form

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                                                  Paj last edited by

                                                  Well done that man 👏

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                                                  • phoenetia
                                                    phoenetia last edited by

                                                    An introduction to the paleolithic diet: [url="http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html"]http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html[/url]<br />
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                                                    makes a lot of sense... but i just couldnt live with out pasta, bread, potatoes et al...

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                                                      Noddy last edited by

                                                      [quote]Lose weight to excercise not exercise to lose weight i reckon.  [/quote] <br />
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                                                      bang bloody on. Nice. I agree with that.<br />
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                                                      Great stuff by the way Stoli. Keep us informed.<br />
                                                      <br />
                                                      I start my campaign tomorrow.

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                                                      • ?
                                                        Guest last edited by

                                                        Paleolithic diet sounds interesting - and very similar to Atkins in terms of recommendations, but especially justification (i.e. humans don't eat masses of carbs). I might get back onto it and shed some kg - just have to make sure I get good amounts of sleep <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />

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                                                          stoli last edited by

                                                          Week 5 was a but slow for me but I find that happens on Atkins and had a slwo weekand only lost 200 grams, still 7.4kgs in 5 weeks is good and I expect that this week will be better.<br />
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                                                          Have started to increase the exercise as well which should help.<br />
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                                                          Read something interesting somewhere that said that it was healthier to be overweight and fit than skinny and unfit, so am going to be working on the fitness now as well as find it much easier to do after getting some kgs off

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                                                            stoli last edited by

                                                            The last week for me has been better and now lost a total of 8.5kgs which i think is pretty good going for 6 weeks

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                                                              stoli last edited by

                                                              Had a cracking week with the weightloss last week and dropped 2kgs, taking totaL loss to 10.5kgs in 7 weeks<br />
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                                                              Very happy with the results so far

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                                                                Fullermorg last edited by

                                                                How big were you Stoli?<br />
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                                                                That is a shit load of weight to drop!

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                                                                  stoli last edited by

                                                                  I started out at 105.3kgs, am now 94.8. My target is about 75kgs<br />
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                                                                  I am only 5'6" so was pretty overweight

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                                                                    stoli last edited by

                                                                    Another pretty good week on Atkiins<br />
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                                                                    Dropped 1.1kgs and am now 93.7. So a total loss of 11.6 in 8 weeks

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                                                                    • ?
                                                                      Guest last edited by

                                                                      [quote name='stoli']<br />
                                                                      Another pretty good week on Atkiins<br />
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                                                                      Dropped 1.1kgs and am now 93.7. So a total loss of 11.6 in 8 weeks<br />
                                                                      [/quote]<br />
                                                                      I dont believe you Stobes. Seeing is believing.  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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                                                                        stoli last edited by

                                                                        Week 9 of my fatbusting challenge has passed and I am now down to 92.8kgs a loss of 12.5 which I am happy with to this point as have not done a lot of exercise so far.<br />
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                                                                        But now the things have settled at home I can hopefully get stuck into exercise

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                                                                          stoli last edited by

                                                                          13 weeks of fatbusting now gone and I have got over 15kgs off now back under 90kgs. Basically half way to my target.<br />
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                                                                          Got the exercise going a bit too and did a 10km walk last weekend

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                                                                          • BartMan
                                                                            BartMan last edited by

                                                                            wow, that is good weight loss - keep it going, and hope you keep it off too!

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                                                                              stoli last edited by

                                                                              Another good week for me last week am now down to 87.4 making a total loss so far of 17.9kgs<br />
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                                                                              Having to put away all my old clothes and pull out some of the stuff I bought 4 years ago when I got this small

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