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@taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:
@MN5 dont entirely agree...I'm not bothered he left (sure he was talented and could well have been an awesome AB)) I am annoyed by his supposed 'trailblazing' that this is what all people should do (Sopoaga is walking a similar path) he was hard done by missing out on RWC selection so follow his path turn your back on that jersey that gave you the big step up to where you are now, and follow him cos it's waaaaay better.
Sure I might be overstating it, but he does come across with a bit of a chip and maybe also a hint of regret but is trying to overcompensate by claiming he is a trail blazer.
Each to thier own...IMO, he stays, he definitely makes RWC squad (and earlier tests) ahead of either NMS or Naholo, but he signed elsewhere they went with options committed to NZR.
Good on him he is making a good career and making a ton of money for him and his family, but the 'tone' of all the articles about him and Sopoaga (I know these are probably more media driven) is a bit precious.
I've got no doubt they're media driven. I had a yarn over a beer with a bloke who knows a pretty well known professional rugby player who was in the mix but never quite there in terms of AB selection. Massive financial shit at home which even an AB contract might not have sorted. Hey presto, big deal overseas for a few years and lots of that pressure gone.
Long story short. None of us are this guy ( or Piatau ) so it's tough to see things from their point of view especially when the media throw around words like 'trailblazer' 'turncoat' or whatever.
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@MN5 said in Exodus 2019:
@Higgins said in Exodus 2019:
@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
Matt Proctor signs for Northampton Saints, linking up with former Hurricanes coach Chris Boyd:
Saints sign New Zealand centre Matt Proctor
Northampton Saints can today announce that Kiwi centre Matt Proctor will join the Club from Super Rugby franchise Hurricanes.
Saints sign New Zealand centre Matt Proctor
Friday, January 11 2019.
Northampton Saints can today announce that Kiwi centre Matt Proctor will join the Club from Super Rugby franchise Hurricanes. The 26-year-old New Zealand international is director of rugby Chris Boyd’s first new signing for next season, with a raft of current Saints already penning deals to remain at Franklin’s Gardens.While comfortable both on the wing and at fullback, Proctor has established himself as one of the best midfielders in the Southern Hemisphere in recent seasons.
And after committing to make the switch across the world to the Gallagher Premiership, Proctor is already relishing the prospect of a new challenge on English soil with Northampton.
“I am excited to have signed for such a prestigious club in Northampton Saints,” said Proctor.
“For a long time now, I have had the ambition of testing myself in the Northern Hemisphere and for so many reasons Northampton is a great fit for me.
“Not only will I have the opportunity to be coached again by Chris Boyd – the person I have worked with the most as a professional player – but I will also have the honour of joining a Club that is steeped in tradition and boasts a rich history of success.
“The Club and I share the same goals in wanting to achieve as much success as possible on the pitch, while also contributing to the wider rugby community off the field; so overall I am thrilled to be heading to Franklin’s Gardens.”
After making his Super Rugby debut in 2013, Wellington-born Proctor was part of the Hurricanes side that – under Boyd – secured the title three years later.
He celebrated his 50th appearance for the franchise in 2018, while also being named captain for Wellington Lions’ Mitre 10 Cup campaign.
In the same season Proctor then made his All Blacks Test debut against Japan in November, with his representative career also including the Maori All Blacks, New Zealand Under-20s and New Zealand Schools.
Boyd said: “Matt is exactly the calibre of player that we want to be bringing to Northampton – he’s a world-class talent.
“I obviously know first-hand what he can do having worked with him back in New Zealand, and I am confident he can slot into our back-line next year alongside the quality players we already have at Saints.
“At 26, Matt is entering the peak years of his career and he had the desire for a new challenge on this side of the world. We feel that he can really fill his vast potential here in Northampton.”
Man, these quotes by players and coaches are just so scripted by the PR people is it almost laughable. Look at this one for example of something that in my forty years or so of involvement in rugby have never, even remotely, heard a rugby player express themselves in this manner.
“The Club and I share the same goals in wanting to achieve as much success as possible on the pitch, while also contributing to the wider rugby community off the field; so overall I am thrilled to be heading to Franklin’s Gardens.”
Corporate wank speak 101. Outstanding. Not in a good way.
As for Piatau given that none of us have been ABs its pretty rich those posters making assumptions on his behalf. Almost like they're offended on behalf of NZ. He's gone. So what ? Plenty of others on the conveyer belt ready to take over just like any job really.
What's the assumptions and who's offended? Was this just a segue to "I know a guy who knows a pro rugby player!"?
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@Bones said in Exodus 2019:
@MN5 said in Exodus 2019:
@Higgins said in Exodus 2019:
@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
Matt Proctor signs for Northampton Saints, linking up with former Hurricanes coach Chris Boyd:
Saints sign New Zealand centre Matt Proctor
Northampton Saints can today announce that Kiwi centre Matt Proctor will join the Club from Super Rugby franchise Hurricanes.
Saints sign New Zealand centre Matt Proctor
Friday, January 11 2019.
Northampton Saints can today announce that Kiwi centre Matt Proctor will join the Club from Super Rugby franchise Hurricanes. The 26-year-old New Zealand international is director of rugby Chris Boyd’s first new signing for next season, with a raft of current Saints already penning deals to remain at Franklin’s Gardens.While comfortable both on the wing and at fullback, Proctor has established himself as one of the best midfielders in the Southern Hemisphere in recent seasons.
And after committing to make the switch across the world to the Gallagher Premiership, Proctor is already relishing the prospect of a new challenge on English soil with Northampton.
“I am excited to have signed for such a prestigious club in Northampton Saints,” said Proctor.
“For a long time now, I have had the ambition of testing myself in the Northern Hemisphere and for so many reasons Northampton is a great fit for me.
“Not only will I have the opportunity to be coached again by Chris Boyd – the person I have worked with the most as a professional player – but I will also have the honour of joining a Club that is steeped in tradition and boasts a rich history of success.
“The Club and I share the same goals in wanting to achieve as much success as possible on the pitch, while also contributing to the wider rugby community off the field; so overall I am thrilled to be heading to Franklin’s Gardens.”
After making his Super Rugby debut in 2013, Wellington-born Proctor was part of the Hurricanes side that – under Boyd – secured the title three years later.
He celebrated his 50th appearance for the franchise in 2018, while also being named captain for Wellington Lions’ Mitre 10 Cup campaign.
In the same season Proctor then made his All Blacks Test debut against Japan in November, with his representative career also including the Maori All Blacks, New Zealand Under-20s and New Zealand Schools.
Boyd said: “Matt is exactly the calibre of player that we want to be bringing to Northampton – he’s a world-class talent.
“I obviously know first-hand what he can do having worked with him back in New Zealand, and I am confident he can slot into our back-line next year alongside the quality players we already have at Saints.
“At 26, Matt is entering the peak years of his career and he had the desire for a new challenge on this side of the world. We feel that he can really fill his vast potential here in Northampton.”
Man, these quotes by players and coaches are just so scripted by the PR people is it almost laughable. Look at this one for example of something that in my forty years or so of involvement in rugby have never, even remotely, heard a rugby player express themselves in this manner.
“The Club and I share the same goals in wanting to achieve as much success as possible on the pitch, while also contributing to the wider rugby community off the field; so overall I am thrilled to be heading to Franklin’s Gardens.”
Corporate wank speak 101. Outstanding. Not in a good way.
As for Piatau given that none of us have been ABs its pretty rich those posters making assumptions on his behalf. Almost like they're offended on behalf of NZ. He's gone. So what ? Plenty of others on the conveyer belt ready to take over just like any job really.
What's the assumptions and who's offended? Was this just a segue to "I know a guy who knows a pro rugby player!"?
Nope just making a point. I'm sure lots of people on here know lots of people. Some are even lucky enough to have breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Joe Moody and Damien McKenzie.
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@MN5 said in Exodus 2019:
@Bones said in Exodus 2019:
@MN5 and the assumptions? The offended?
This isn't an audit. It's a bunch of sad blokes talking on a forum. Stop being so serious.
Translated to... You were talking bollocks that makes no sense. I get it.
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@Bones said in Exodus 2019:
@MN5 said in Exodus 2019:
@Bones said in Exodus 2019:
@MN5 and the assumptions? The offended?
This isn't an audit. It's a bunch of sad blokes talking on a forum. Stop being so serious.
Translated to... You were talking bollocks that makes no sense. I get it.
You're taking the fern way too seriously. Just stop
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@Bones said in Exodus 2019:
@MN5 haaaa says the guy making assumptions about people's supposed assumptions and about people being offended. Oh and don't forget you can't do that unless you've been an all black. 😂
Please read my post again. It's way too late in the evening to re iterate a point that I can barely remember making.
Which probably sums up just about all my posts.
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JTA
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Wasps seem determined to hoover up as many NZ players as they can for next season - kind of surprising given the restrictions - although maybe not if Brexit frees them up from having to abide by EU rules on numbers of Aus/NZ players in match-day squads.
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Sting operation no doubt.
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@Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2019:
Sting operation no doubt.
Your persistent hijacking of this thread has reached it's end, finally. I can't see you not getting banned for that.
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@cgrant Canes might not have a squad next season.
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@Canes4life Lua Li is a better player than Chris Eves. You can get him from Harbour.
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Montpellier owner, Mohed Altrad, on Aaron Cruden "Our outside half, since he's here, keeps hurting himself. This season he has been injured four times. It is difficult for him to be efficient. We hoped for something else."
A reminder to all those joining the Exodus that their new owners are unlikely to be as patient and understanding as NZR.
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@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
Montpellier owner, Mohed Altrad, on Aaron Cruden "Our outside half, since he's here, keeps hurting himself. This season he has been injured four times. It is difficult for him to be efficient. We hoped for something else."
A reminder to all those joining the Exodus that their new owners are unlikely to be as patient and understanding as NZR.
Tyler Bleyendaal might disagree with you.
