TRC: Springboks v Wallabies
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@Stargazer said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
Now an awesome try for Salakaia-Loto for the Walabies.
Edit: hmmm, try disallowed because the pass from Kerevi was deemed forward. The camera angle wasn't great. Not sure I agree with that decision.
I recorded this game and have just watched it. Kerevi completely butchered that try by not doing a simple draw and pass. There was no need to take the contact and then attempt a miracle one-handed offload. And yes, it was forward.
Beale needs to start.
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@NTA said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Duluth said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
The Aussie's really missed Sio & Alaalatoa. They were doing fine until the scrum started creaking.. then Tupou got binned and it got worse
The loose forward trio is more balanced than recent years. The need a bit more work out of the 6 though
And a better game plan.
That is only likely under the following circumstances:
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change of coach
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RWC where Cheika reveals another game plan that he's secretly been hiding all this time
Lol.
Yeah I think they have pretty good cattle available so need a proper gameplan. Although they are still looking for a world class outside back 😎
Boks were pretty loose defensively in that first half with plenty of space around the fringes and some of the Wallaby ball carriers made them pay. White made a difference playing with a bit more purpose.
But once it got past 1st 5 it looked all a bit dour.
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@Bones You see the match?
Last conversion was interesting from our previous discussion about charging conversions early. Jantjes got a second go after the Aussies got up to the ball. Paul Williams could be heard saying to them "He didn't move forward" i.e approach the ball. Glad someone agrees with me, and no we don't need to go into it again!
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@Bones said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Snowy no i didn't see it. Sounds like Williams is all of a sudden an amazing ref though eh. Look, if you were standing still and decided to start running forward, what's your first movement? Step back to push off, right?
I said that I wasn't going into it again! Williams just said that he hadn't moved forward so they couldn't charge.
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@Snowy said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Bones said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Snowy no i didn't see it. Sounds like Williams is all of a sudden an amazing ref though eh. Look, if you were standing still and decided to start running forward, what's your first movement? Step back to push off, right?
I said that I wasn't going into it again! Williams just said that he hadn't moved forward so they couldn't charge.
Well that's bullshit, if a guy is standing still, aiming up, then begins moving and fucks about on his run up it shouldn't be up to interpretation of at what stage he begins "advancing". You're not getting into it... You brought it up you fluffybunny!
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@Bones said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Snowy said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Bones Take it up with Paul, or whatever ref. I thought that they were always right?
Oh yeah cos all the other ref's are always stopping people charging Elton.
They don't normally get close enough to knock the ball over though. I do see your point - if the kicker moves it's time to charge - but it isn't the law.
I'm done.
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@Snowy said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Bones said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Snowy said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Bones Take it up with Paul, or whatever ref. I thought that they were always right?
Oh yeah cos all the other ref's are always stopping people charging Elton.
They don't normally get close enough to knock the ball over though. I do see your point - if the kicker moves it's time to charge - but it isn't the law.
I'm done.
Glad you're done, because oddly enough 99% of the time, your interpretation of it is not in line with how the law is applied.
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@Bones said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Snowy said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Bones Snowy and incorrect law interpretations are the bane of the game.
Ha, ha. You going to the world cup as a ref? Paul Williams is.
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@Snowy said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Bones said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Snowy said in TRC: Springboks v Wallabies:
@Bones Snowy and incorrect law interpretations are the bane of the game.
Ha, ha. You going to the world cup as a ref? Paul Williams is.
Your one example of a ref making a mistake isn't exactly going to change the world of reffing fella. Nor going to stop guys charging when the kicker starts to move, which is good.
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Made me think, has anyone on here charged down a conversion orbeen charged down?
In a real game with appointed refs?
Videos of charge downs?
I can't remember any real time. Can remember sprinting like a mad man hundreds of times though.
The days before tees it was on if the ball fell over
It's a rare anomaly, the conversion charge down. Surprised it's still a thing - but don't want it to go away
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@Siam seen it plenty. More often you might get a slight deflection, or at least apply pressure on the kicker. I'm actually very surprised you don't think you've seen it...
Edit: of course I've no comment on the direction of Mehrts first step of his kicking routine...