Crusaders vs Chiefs



  • Good try, whitelock had plenty to do.



  • Chiefs hanging in there,but I suspect the saders still have enough to close this game out



  • @gt12 said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    Cane, what a fucking tackle.

    One of the few things you can pre-type and know it will be relevant.



  • 26-23 and the chiefs are hanging in there.



  • That was some stupid shit from Ta’avau.



  • Four of the best locks in the country and two good hookers but the lineouts have been terrible.



  • If Alaatoa is a red because ducking doesn't matter - that has to be a Yellow card and penalty try.



  • If defender isn't there it is a try - clear penalty try.



  • That will have to be 10 I guess?



  • Penalty try?



  • That opens up nearly every tackle on the line for a penalty try now.



  • Wow.

    Ok, but I’m not so sure that I like watching rugby anymore.



  • Moral of the story; dive low at the line.



  • These head high rules are fucking the game.

    Initial contact was with the shoulder, the player was going low to score a try, how the fuck else do you tackle him?



  • Go fuck yourself. That's deplorable. Rugby is dead.



  • What nonsense. If ducking makes you untackleable then it is impossible to tackle a diving player before the line.

    Blind doctrine.

    For me not even a penalty.



  • So how the hell is he supposed to stop the try, just let him score if he is diving for the line. Garbage rule needs to change.



  • @antipodean said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    Moral of the story; dive low at the line.

    Another to add to the list....fall or jump into tackles.

    Score?



  • @taniwharugby 33 23 after the penalty try



  • The rules are there for safety purposes but I fear every game I am going to be watching this year is going to have problem in and around high tackles which is going to hugely influence results.



  • Well that is two games that I have seen so far where these calls are ruining the game. Penalty try and yellow card?



  • @hydro11 said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    If Alaatoa is a red because ducking doesn't matter - that has to be a Yellow card and penalty try.

    If you want to bring that into then, I thought Boshier would have got the diving defence, attacker was diving so, so reduced to no penalty.



  • Thats fucked. Lead with your head and youre untouchable



  • P.S. A great game rendered a futile exercise by overzealous official.

    Very 21st century.



  • I was settling in to watch the Tahs v Stormers just because it’s some rugby, but I can’t be fucked now.

    Decent game ruined.



  • Might as well play tiddly winks..!



  • RC for Taimanivalu?



  • Fucking McKenzie.



  • Well deserved win to the Saders as it turns out.

    The Saders should be one of the better sides, but it looks like it is going to be a long year for us.



  • Wait, the shit barrett didn't drop that? Jesus...

    Patriots indeed.



  • Ive lost count of how many errors DMac has made tonight.



  • @gt12 said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    RC for Taimanivalu?

    Forceful contact with the head, it should have been.

    Who cares that M Mac almost fell into his knee, ‘falling tackler’ isn’t a defence these days. Who cares that it was purely accidental, contact with the head is contact with the head.

    Come on refs stick to the rules.



  • @gt12 said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    Fucking McKenzie.

    Chiefs fans will get used to saying that too now he's their first choice five-eighth.



  • No question the better side has won this evening, but all you ever ask for consistency from the officials,having watched all 4 x games..inconsistency in around the high tackle interpretation is already creating confusion for supporters and viewers.



  • @steven-harris said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    The rules are there for safety purposes but I fear every game I am going to be watching this year is going to have problem in and around high tackles which is going to hugely influence results.

    Except Steven that the laws aren't there for safety mate, they're primarily there to appease social and mainstream media, lest they lower rugby's appeal to corporate sponsorship.

    These administrators and lawmakers have made a pigs breakfast of the game since the last WC and their sole objective has been to placate social justice fuckwits who'd never travel to a game rather than the people who actually "own" and love the game.

    If you're fair dinkum about player welfare, then you start by decreasing the games played, not try to micro manage every fucking collision.

    That yellow and penalty try make the game barely recognisable, and random as a legitimate contest.

    A pox on them all



  • @siam said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    @steven-harris said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    The rules are there for safety purposes but I fear every game I am going to be watching this year is going to have problem in and around high tackles which is going to hugely influence results.

    Except Steven that the laws aren't there for safety mate, they're primarily there to appease social and mainstream media, lest they lower rugby's appeal to corporate sponsorship.

    These administrators and lawmakers have made a pigs breakfast of the game since the last WC and their sole objective has been to placate social justice fuckwits who'd never travel to a game rather than the people who actually "own" and love the game.

    If you're fair dinkum about player welfare, then you start by decreasing the games played, not try to micro manage every fucking collision.

    That yellow and penalty try make the game barely recognisable, and random as a legitimate contest.

    A pox on them all

    Quoted just so everyone can read that twice.



  • I'm sympathetic to the lawmakers on this one. The research from the NFL is terrifying and the physicality of the game is only increasing which will mean more and more concussion and head trauma. We can't just accept it as a cost of the game but there is clearly more work needed to get the balance right because I agree that the too often good tackles are being penalised.

    I don't think shortening the season will be a solution though since the nfl season is 16 to 20 games, or about half the length of the rugby one.



  • Pretty messy game compared to last night. But a few decent plays.

    I agree the high tackle card lottery is a fucking joke but that penalty try was the most clear cut example of a penalty try and yellow that you can get. It was a massive high tackle as he was diving for the line. If you can't see that you are blind. Heres how to stop him legally, don't hit him in the fucking head. If you need to let him pass slightly so you get him side on and he scores the try then tough shit. You don't get a free high tackle because he is diving to score.

    Ngatai was wasted at 15. But i guess he will be out for 6 weeks injured now. Cane awesome as usual. Dmac still doesn't look like a 10. Maybe 9 is where he should be, TJP style broken field play with goal kicking as a bonus. For the Crusaders Goodhue was good. Don't rate Bridge but a few good plays in the final 10 min.



  • @siam said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    @steven-harris said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    The rules are there for safety purposes but I fear every game I am going to be watching this year is going to have problem in and around high tackles which is going to hugely influence results.

    Except Steven that the laws aren't there for safety mate, they're primarily there to appease social and mainstream media, lest they lower rugby's appeal to corporate sponsorship.

    These administrators and lawmakers have made a pigs breakfast of the game since the last WC and their sole objective has been to placate social justice fuckwits who'd never travel to a game rather than the people who actually "own" and love the game.

    If you're fair dinkum about player welfare, then you start by decreasing the games played, not try to micro manage every fucking collision.

    That yellow and penalty try make the game barely recognisable, and random as a legitimate contest.

    A pox on them all

    I came on here to rant about the stupidity of the laws, but this sums it up far more eloquently than I could have. Spot. On.

    Too much enthusiasm to put people in the bin, not enough enthusiasm to look at what the players are actually trying to achieve.



  • @pukunui said in Crusaders vs. Chiefs:

    Heres how to stop him legally, don't hit him in the fucking head. If you need to let him pass slightly so you get him side on and he scores the try then tough shit. You don't get a free high tackle because he is diving to score.

    That's spot on.

    Mainly, what I've seen this weekend is that if you hit people around the neck or head you're probably going to the bin. I haven't found it too confusing.

    Pretty scrappy game - useful points - onwards and upwards.


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