@mn5 http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/magazine/alltime_composite.html

Here's the Cricinfo World teams - those Aussies look beatable!

Pakistan look pretty fearsome - probably more fearsome than the Windies!

@mn5 You fucking defeatist!

Lillee is going to be steaming in at Little Kane, with his fucking headband - and with a minimum of fuss Kane will just guide him away through backward point to the boundary.

Out comes Bradman - on comes Jack Cowie. Only met one another once and Jack fucked him up!

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@chris-b said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@no-quarter Yeah - and that's the thing.

Ideally, you'd want everyone in the top 6 to have averages of 50+, because that's going to be the benchmark of the Aussies/English/Windies etc. Which is why I'll pick Dempster (a coulda been Great, but didn't play enough) over someone like Wright or even Sutcliffe.

Bowling-wise, you want people who can dynamite a world class batting line-up - in my lifetime that's Hadlee, Bond and just maybe Boult.

Harsh reality of NZ cricket is that we have to include people like Turner and Vettori - excellent players, but guys who wouldn't get a look in in an all-time Australian team.

Ummmmmm......It's New Zealand?

An Aussie all time 2nd or even 3rd XI would destroy our best.

That's because you're picking people like Cairnsie! He's going to get pumped!

@baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

Boult is the superior choice over Bond.

Not if you need to knock Bradman's head off!

@no-quarter Yeah - and that's the thing.

Ideally, you'd want everyone in the top 6 to have averages of 50+, because that's going to be the benchmark of the Aussies/English/Windies etc. Which is why I'll pick Dempster (a coulda been Great, but didn't play enough) over someone like Wright or even Sutcliffe.

Bowling-wise, you want people who can dynamite a world class batting line-up - in my lifetime that's Hadlee, Bond and just maybe Boult.

Harsh reality of NZ cricket is that we have to include people like Turner and Vettori - excellent players, but guys who wouldn't get a look in in an all-time Australian team.

@mn5 Not my teams, Nate hasn't - not test teams anyway.

@mn5 Fair enough. He doesn't make my team, though.

@mn5 He doubtless is a New Zealand great - if we're allowed to have twenty or thirty "greats". But, for me he sits alongside someone like Fleming - a good test player, but not exceptional.

In terms of World "Greats", only Sir Paddles would be sure of an invite. Marty might get a seat in the room, and Little Kane is filling in an application form.

Heard an Aussie guy on the radio, yesterday, who reckoned Joe Burns in for Finch would be the most likely change - but, he thought Finch would get another go.

And Burns seems to have reasonable form.

@mn5 Cairnsie was never up to batting in the top 6 even among some of the somewhat mediocre options he played with.

Never saw John Reid, but he mainly batted at four for NZ, so he gets quite a few more marks than Cairnsie even though their averages are similar.

I'd be somewhat tempted to leave him out for Rossco, though - and just have four bowlers.