@TeWaio And that a boundary four is better than a four-all-run, which is even more ridiculous!

@Siam said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Chris-B umm, what scenario is that?

Should add that all completed runs before the hit are counted and if no run after the batsman is hit to account for the dubious scenario of fielders throwing at batsmen to prevent a run???

If hit trying complete the first run (single), ball rebowled might work

A scenario I can't see happening, what if the fielder trying to save runs by hitting the batsman, misses? Team going to be happy with non backed up overthrows?

Not much of a percentage play that one, unless there's something I'm missing.

One run to win - ball driven gently to a mid on in line with the stumps. Fielder's got one stump to aim at to tie - or a large oncoming batsman to buy another ball - boom!!!

World Cup on the line - I'd definitely throw at Gatting!

Edit: or anyone playing for East-Christchurch-Shirley!

@Siam You'd need to be careful that you didn't start encouraging fielders to throw at the batsman rather than the stumps.

In regard to the five runs rather than six - everyone who was watching had the opportunity to be a national hero by observing what had happened and quickly texting Ian Smith to roll down the stairs and onto the field to require the umpires to apply Law 16.9.2 If, at this call of Time, the overs have been completed and no Playing time remains, or if the side batting last has completed its innings, the umpires shall immediately inform both captains of the necessary corrections to the scores and to the result.

In fact, unless someone can provide video evidence of the requirements of 16.10 being completed - perhaps we can still do it!

16.10 16.10 Result not to be changed

Once the umpires have agreed with the scorers the correctness of the scores at the conclusion of the match – see Laws 2.15 (Correctness of scores) and 3.2 (Correctness of scores) – the result cannot thereafter be changed.

@mofitzy_ said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Chris-B said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@mofitzy_ said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

Not a fan of Stead coming out and saying a draw is something that could be considered. Fuck that, it's a world cup - just figure out a better way to award the winner.

To be honest - in a game like cricket - if you get a tie, which very rarely happens, I don't see what's wrong with just sharing the title.

In a game like soccer, I can see why you need a tiebreak.

But, if necessary - why not just come back the next day and play another match? If TV companies can't sort out to cover the replay then fuck 'em.

p.s. rugby needs to sort something better out than the drop-kick-off, which was what supposedly happens last time I looked. Far rather share the title than indulge in "fucking foolishness".

Given they had a whole day in reserve, surely continuing playing cricket till they found a winner is better than an arbitrary rule or - God forbid- a draw. Remember the Lions fiasco? Maybe it's the North Island in me but I'm not a fan of sister kissing.

This one seems worse than the Lions fiasco - we still got the draw and lost!

It's a bit like kissing your sister and then being accused of being a pervert!

@mofitzy_ said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

Not a fan of Stead coming out and saying a draw is something that could be considered. Fuck that, it's a world cup - just figure out a better way to award the winner.

To be honest - in a game like cricket - if you get a tie, which very rarely happens, I don't see what's wrong with just sharing the title.

In a game like soccer, I can see why you need a tiebreak.

But, if necessary - why not just come back the next day and play another match? If TV companies can't sort out to cover the replay then fuck 'em.

p.s. rugby needs to sort something better out than the drop-kick-off, which was what supposedly happens last time I looked. Far rather share the title than indulge in "fucking foolishness".

@MN5 Won that game for us vs Bangladesh!

@MN5 said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Chris-B said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@MN5 Yeah - the question is how the run-rate effectiveness of Mitch in this tournament would shape up on Indian pitches - compared to quite how lethal Chahal looked at times.

But, he was definitely pretty good in this tournament.

What would be really cool would be if Mitch could improve his batting to the point where he becomes a genuine top 6 batsman. Ish becomes a world class leggie and Ajaz comes into the equation as a decent option, as well (and Kane continues to bowl decently).

We could have a four-pronged spin attack on the sub-c0ntinent, along with Boult, Henry and Ferguson - and whoever else comes along in the meantime.

As I said Santner doesn't really get a mark for his batting in the WC. No decent chances and a couple of not outs here and there.

I reckon his efforts with the willow are the key for him down the line as he just isn't quite enough of a frontline spinner for me.

But ok, pretty good is probably a fair assessment. It was the "bloody" in your initial post that triggered me

Actually, he had five not outs just not much time to do anything with them.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=12357;team=5;type=tournament

Pretty useful tournament batting at eight - but, I wish he'd hooked that last ball for six, instead of ducking... or even nudged it away for a single....

Kind of assuming he'd set himself up for something else and couldn't make the adjustment.

But, would be bloody handy if he became a genuine top six batsman - and it's not beyond possibility.

@MN5 Yeah - the question is how the run-rate effectiveness of Mitch in this tournament would shape up on Indian pitches - compared to quite how lethal Chahal looked at times.

But, he was definitely pretty good in this tournament.

What would be really cool would be if Mitch could improve his batting to the point where he becomes a genuine top 6 batsman. Ish becomes a world class leggie and Ajaz comes into the equation as a decent option, as well (and Kane continues to bowl decently).

We could have a four-pronged spin attack on the sub-c0ntinent, along with Boult, Henry and Ferguson - and whoever else comes along in the meantime.

@MN5 Yep!

Which spinners finished among the top wicket takers?

I think the best was Chahal with 12 - and Mitch out-bowled him in the semi. Tahir, Shakib and Rashid - each with 11. Mitch outbowled Rashid in the final, as well.

Better economy rate than any of them - and pretty much of any spinner that played a major role in the tournament .