EU have now signed a major trade and services deal with Japan. A nice buffer for the loss of the UK and a poke in the eye to those that say the best way for the UK to get trade deals around the world is to get out of the EU.
I think, although I may be wrong here as it gets complicated, that this also makes a UK trading situation with Japan under WTO (no deal option) in a worse position. Certainly the car industry will be sweating on having their plants moved to Europe.If the Japan deal is ratified before the UK leaves then it will apply to the UK after leaving (with a re-write) but, and it's the big but, cars assembled in the UK then have to enter Europe under tariffs.

All gets very messy.

@baron-silas-greenback said in Brexit:

@crucial said in Brexit:

@majorrage said in Brexit:

@crucial Labour would withdraw article 50 without a doubt.

It has been the process and vagueness around what 'out' really means that has been the killer. Imaging voting for something that wasn't defined but would have a major impact?

You seem to keep beatng the drum that the vote was somehow confusing. It wasnt. It was very very straight forward. People wanted out of the EU, they werent voting on process, and for good reason. That would never end. Where exactly do you dstop ewith that? Answer - You dont, and therefore you never leaver the EU. Which admittedly is the goal of the remainers but hardly democratic.
This is just a continuation of the remainers arrogance in the assumption that people didnt know what they were voting for. Yes... they did.

The question was straight forward, people understood it.
I think remainers will keep pushing for referendums until they get a win.. then suddenly all votes will be stopped and things will me magically clear.

@rotated said in Brexit:

@majorrage said in Brexit:

Too late to talk about the way it should have been handled.

Obviously you can't change the past - but the current situation shouldn't be divorced from how we got here. Once the ballot was taken and results known there have been obstructionists, people acting in bad faith and parties completely willing to intentionally sabotage the negotiations in order to get a revote.

To sit back and say "look at the mess we are currently in, let's take the easy way out" actively rewards the forces that actively sandbagged and worked against the will of the nation.

Can you name these obstructionists etc? Who has intentionally sabotaged negotiations?

@majorrage said in Brexit:

@crucial Labour would withdraw article 50 without a doubt.

Sure. Then flounder around for ages trying to work out their next move. If they were to have that as part of their manifesto how many votes would they lose?
As much as a balls up this has been, I have to give May some credit for at least trying to make a silk purse from a pig's scrotum. It has been the process and vagueness around what 'out' really means that has been the killer. Imaging voting for something that wasn't defined but would have a major impact?

@raznomore said in NBA season 2018/19:

@crucial Saw that. SB Nation isn't always accurate but they are here. Still Adams is on a small market team and as good as he is its not likely he'll get enough votes to be picked.

What is a small market team?

May should survive tonight's challenge (just) with it clear that she only survives on the basis of it adding more crazy to the situation if she goes.

Corbyn spouting off as usual as all he wants is a collapsed govt so he can have an election. What is crazy is that no one seems to want to/be able to get him to say how he expects to improve the situation or deal. He is happy to snipe away saying that May has failed to deliver but what is he going to do different and what makes him think that Europe would give him a better deal? Labour would have to go no deal and hopefully he would be forced to admit as much.

An article promoting the reasons why Adams should be an All Star this year

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/12/11/18133291/steven-adams-stats-thunder-all-star

If Adams was to make All Star that would surely be the Halberg done and dusted. His 'journey' has been a model story of application and willingness to learn and improve.
Averaging 15/10 this season but has slowly improved almost every personal stat in his 5 years.
In a sport awash with pandered egos he must be a franchise owner and coaches dream

@antipodean said in Super Rugby News:

I thought he just had an extended break?

I got the feeling that Read came back at 95% last year and tried to play at 100%. The S&C guys will know all the numbers and will have planned out a way for him to get back to peak a couple of times next year. Same for Whitelock and Taylor who were running on empty.

@rembrandt said in Brexit:

@crucial It is very much in the US interest to help Britain here and I'm sure on a personal level Trump would really love to get one over German Hillary.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/10/17/us-ready-negotiate-free-trade-deal-uk-soon-britain-quits-eu/

And Britain are experts at negotiating deals.....

Good luck to British farmers looking for access to the US.

@rembrandt said in Brexit:

No deal all the way for me (from the safety of Australia with my UK pension transferred to NZ and my UK bank accounts emptied). Bring on the chaos!

Things will work out, it will hurt for a while and will take time and it means the UK is going to actually have to treat papa Trump with due respect. The alternative in my mind is a much scarier prospect, the end of democracy in Britain.

End of democracy? What bollocks.
As for the “hurt for a while” situation, yep it will certainly be a while and how does bowing to papa Trump provide the sovereignty the people wanted? He’s hardly Mr free trade and will have all the negotiating power over a desperate GB.
I’m not that averse to Brexit if that is what people want, just think it is really stupid to go about it in the way it has happened and the way some dreamers seem to think will be fine.
What on earth was wrong with telling Europe that when we are ready we will trigger article 50 instead of setting a timetable that put all the power with them?