@bovidae said in Exodus 2019:

Someone is getting a payrise...

Deserved after this season at 7.

@synicbast said in NZ All Time Test XI:

Kane just broke the 900 point barrier on the ICC rankings...absofuckinglutely sensational.

I always scoff/or am in mixed minds at the "who would you get to bat for your life" thing but hands down, it would be Kane Williamson

@antipodean said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:

@hooroo A friend of mine attended a preview screening of it in the UK last night / tonight (?)

Looks excellent for its type of genre.

I like in the article how it said the cameraman turned away when he made the one move that was either going to mean success or death.

A different type of Gravy to do this.

@derm-mccrum said in Exodus 2019:

@jegga said in Exodus 2019:

@derm-mccrum why did you change your name?

Decided to use my name on this and a couple of other worthwhile fora. I use PotHale on most other fora. I was NH Fan when I first came on here in 2011.

A man of many disguises!!

@rapido said in NZ All Time Test XI:

Thought this was of note. McCullum is NZ's:

• best Number 5.
• 4th best opener
• second best keeper by D/I
• second best keeper-batsman by batting average (also second best number 7 by batting average)

And subjective. One of NZ's best captain's. Where exactly he ranks can be left to personal choice.

The reason I call him our greatest captain is because he was 'despised' at the beginning for effectively ousting Taylor who most thought to be the 'correct' captain. Then went to SA and got pumped.

Then turned the team culture around and modelled a great team to watch. One with a spine and one getting great results.

Created a team to be truly proud of. He helped me rekindle my love for NZ cricket where for a long while I would look forward to The Ashes or Oz v SA etc rather than watch our clowns fumble around for a battlers win every once in a blue moon.

I love our Cricket team at the moment

@donsteppa said in NZ All Time Test XI:

@cyclops said in NZ All Time Test XI:

I don't think Smith has a claim anymore. Baz and Watling are both clearly ahead of him. Watling is number one on performances as a keeper only and Baz ahead on whole career summary. To be honest I think Smith and Parore are pretty evenly matched.

I don't think the difference in work between the stumps would be noticeable between the three of them.

Fair call, from memory Parore went a huge amount of runs/overs without conceding a bye at one stage.

Watling has certainly risen up the ranks. Watling batting with the bowlers in my side might grind out a few more runs on the board. McCullum batting all guns blazing with Hadlee swatting away at the other end would also be great lower order entertainment!

Or he just whips up another 300.....

@donsteppa said in NZ All Time Test XI:

A big argument just to decide which of the two gets the new ball with Hadlee.

I'm increasingly thinking I wouldn't play a spinner in the all time NZ XI - unless we're playing in the subcontinent. I'd probably go with 6 batsmen, Watling/Smith for keeping, and Hadlee, Boult, Bond, plus Jack Cowie.

Cowie perhaps swapped out for Collinge if playing against Boycott, or swapped out for Nash if playing at Lords.

I reckon an all time NZ XI would go pretty well against their counterparts. None of this defeatist stuff. It reminds me of the line Lee Grant used to take when Oz rugby was doing well. Other nations might have the depth to pick eight amazing all time teams, but they can only play one of them at the top.

Our third XI might get smashed by their opposites, but NZ has produced a few all time greats.

Gee, I have McCullum Captain and Keeper. I truly think he is the reason we are what we are today (along with Hesson of course)

I agree too that we wouldn't need a spinner

@baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@mn5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@mn5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@mn5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@mn5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

@baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

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@baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

Boult is the superior choice over Bond.

Longevity vs utter brilliance....I disagree. Bonds career was just long enough to be included.

Boult wins on both counts.

No. Fucken. Way.

I'm no mathetician but 87 wickets in 18 tests beats 222 in 57. You are talking out of your arse. Bond also averaged better than that Hadlee guy....

I wouldnt trust Bond to thrive on surfaces all around the world and perform in series after series to get his team to the top. I may be talking out of my arse, but that just shows my ass knows about cricket than your whole body.

Oh of course silly me....it was just helpful conditions that had shit batsmen like Hayden, Ponting, Gilchrist etc playing and missing and then getting out.

You're right. Bond was shit, just really, really lucky to get so many wickets so quickly and with an exceptional average in both forms of he game.

@MN5
And did he do it series after series on varying surfaces in differing conditions? No.
Attack straw men as much as you like, but you are living in a fantasy world where Bond played more than 18 tests.
newsflash he didnt, and he didnt prove himself in varying conditions over a decent period of time.
Could he have, maybe, maybe not.

No one is disputing longevity it's the fact you made some bullshit claim that Boult is better. I'm not denying he's good but I still reckon Bond did enough in 18 tests to make a team ahead of him.

Bullshit claim? Longevity matters because it shows you have been tested all around the world, in all sorts of conditions. Bond didnt do that. Boult has, they both are class acts , but Boult has proven he is a class act around the world in all sorts of conditions.

You have done nothing to counter my point at all, because you cannot. Beyond saying it doesnt matter, which is actually a 'bullshit claim.'

But Bond was indisputably better when he did play. Fact.

No, not fact. Opinion. But I understand you cannot tell the difference.
Going by your logic, Somerville is now one of our best ever spinners.

He might have you there..... As when Bond was playing Boult would have been in early high school?

But in all seriousness they would both make the team wouldn't they? Paddles, Bond and Boult would be an incredible line up