@Toddy said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback I can't work out if you're trolling or if you have a genuine problem with people holding opinions different to your own?

He can be a bit blunt, but he has a point. Those saying it doesn't matter, and is a boring book, aren't taking into account the thousands of people that the book has helped.

Some of those are from the far right side of identity politics, and have left that behind them and responded to his calls for personal responsibility. Isn't that what we want? An antidote to the type of thinking that leads to violence?

@Duluth that feels like a looooong time ago. Oh, it is.

@Stargazer ok, that makes sense then.

@Stargazer I would have expected last week to count as a rest, unless they count the training time as well?

Lots of people think all sorts of things that are incorrect. The task there is to educate people and focus on what’s really important.

I see lots of people speaking for Muslims, has any Muslim ever complained about a rugby team name?

@chimoaus said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:

@Kirwan said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:

@Machpants said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:

Take Scotland for ex. They're doing OK-ish ATM, but let's say they have a slump, and get relegated. So they are out of the 6N for two years, that's the end of the SRU. Tests against T2 countries are not going to replace the money brought in from the 6N and playing SH sides in the Nov tests. It would literally bankrupt thew SRU. So unless WR are going to guarantee revenue to them, they will not vote for it. And if one T2 country gets T1 levels of revenue, why not the rest. That is the problem that has to be overcome. I dunno if there is the money to do that?

Haven't they ring fenced the 6N? So Scotland would still be in it, but be in Tier 2 of the Nations Championship?

That wouldn't be possible as Scotland would be in Tier 2 and wouldn't play the other six nations sides in their 11 matches. If Scotland did come last out of the Six Nations sides and lost the relegation match then perhaps they shouldn't be in the top tier. Stopping the expansion and growth of the game because Scotland/Italy are scared IMO are not big enough reasons to stop it.

The flip side is what do Fiji do with all of the money they are about to get in broadcasting if they are in Tier 1. Do all Tier 1 nations get the same cut of the money?

Thanks. They also get a shot at staying up with the playoff game. If you come last, and can't beat the top team from Tier 2 then perhaps you should go down?

@Machpants said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:

Take Scotland for ex. They're doing OK-ish ATM, but let's say they have a slump, and get relegated. So they are out of the 6N for two years, that's the end of the SRU. Tests against T2 countries are not going to replace the money brought in from the 6N and playing SH sides in the Nov tests. It would literally bankrupt thew SRU. So unless WR are going to guarantee revenue to them, they will not vote for it. And if one T2 country gets T1 levels of revenue, why not the rest. That is the problem that has to be overcome. I dunno if there is the money to do that?

Haven't they ring fenced the 6N? So Scotland would still be in it, but be in Tier 2 of the Nations Championship?

@Stargazer said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:

@Kirwan said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:

Why stop at the rugby team. If we are changing the cross imagery as well, perhaps we should rename Christchurch itself!

Way too Christian! Might be offensive!

That's the most stupid argument I've seen on social media. None of the objections have to do with Christianity itself.

Most people would object if a sports team called itself "Jihad" or "Mujahideen".

No sensible person would ask for a name change of the city of Islamabad.

The whole thing is stupid, and my joke was in response to this part of your comment;

"Who knows, maybe it's only the imagery of the crosses and swords they'd like to change"

There is nothing offensive about crosses and swords.

In short, where to you draw the line in terms of somebody's offence restricting what other people can do?

@Rembrandt said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:

@Kirwan said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:

So I see on Reddit that Telstra in Oz have blocked 4chan, 8chan and Liveleak. Interestingly, not Facebook where he streamed the damn thing.

Also Zerohedge & Dissenter (NZ only) who aren't hosting it and Bitchute who is a competitor to youtube and if it was put up I would be pretty certain would take it down quick..I'd check but on a work computer so can't right now.

Just like the synagogue attack where the terrorist had a Gab account so they removed Gab off of the internet..but weirdly kept facebook and twitter active despite him having accounts there which also had similar racist rantings.

Considering facebook and twitter's part in sharing the video & inflaming the culture war with how their systems are moderated its all pretty galling.

Feels more like anti-competitive behaviour to me.

So I see on Reddit that Telstra in Oz have blocked 4chan, 8chan and Liveleak. Interestingly, not Facebook where he streamed the damn thing.