Not sure how meaningful this is but it's a cool graphic and even has music. China making a big surge right at the end.

@booboo yeah, trial will be interesting, going to be easy for the defence lawyer to argue any jury selected has been influenced by the PMs careless words and all the hype surrounding this. I hope if he did it he gets the book thrown at him, but who knows at this point.

@donsteppa said in Grace Millane:

@jegga said in Grace Millane:

@no-quarter said in Grace Millane:

Cynical question: do these vigils happen if we remove social media? Would so many be attending if they couldn't narcissistically post about it online?

Any of you old buggers remember anything like this happening before? The reaction seems way OTT given we never get vigils for, say, the innocent children that are regularly killed in domestic violence incidents.

(Edited but probably too late for anyone to take this post seriously now)

Nope . I don’t remember there being grief olympics held before social media .

Some parts of the outpouring around Princess Diana's death are the closest I can think of pre-social media.

Yeah I have fairly vague memories of that but can remember it seeming to be a massive deal at the time. Difference there is people actually knew who she was and many were fans already.

@booboo yeah I think you're right. Also I see one of the vigils was organised by Alison Mau and a womans rights group and talked about "NZs attitude towards women" etc so they seem to have jumped at the chance to push their message.

@Bones haha damn new phone with auto correct

Cynical question: do these vigils happen if we remove social media? Would so many be attending if they couldn't narcissistically post about it online?

Any of you old buggers remember anything like this happening before? The reaction seems way OTT given we never get vigils for, say, the innocent children that are regularly killed in domestic violence incidents.

(Edited but probably too late for anyone to take this post seriously now)

@JC thanks I will definitely have a read.

@antipodean @jegga posted an article on the effects social media has had on spreading disinformation like anti-vax stuff. Certainly made some interesting points.

Here it is: https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/09-12-2018/facebook-not-fake-news-is-whats-destroying-us/

I don't quite no what to think of people like that. Whether to be in awe of them, or wonder what the fuck is wrong with them. Bit of both really. Sheesh.

@rotated said in NZ All Time Test XI:

@cyclops said in NZ All Time Test XI:

NZ cricket should have made him captain after Flem and passed over Vettori. I reckon we'd be in a better place now if we had.

The Vettori period was a complete shit show.

The period of Taylor's captaincy under Wright IMO was strong and the away wins in Australia and Sri Lanka point to that. We played very sensible cricket and had an edge in the test game I hadn't seen for years. Regardless of the merit of McCullum or Taylor as captains NZ's fortunes were going to change around that time because we stumbled into a legitimate a World Class batsman and three legitimate test quality quicks.

Yeah that's a fair point, as good as Baz and Hesson were, there's no doubt we had started to show signs of what we were capable of under Rosco and Wright. Those away wins were fucking huge at the time. Ultimately it worked out well, and Hesson I think will go down as one of our greatest ever coaches, but we shouldn't forget the success we were starting to have prior. That SA tour threw everything up in the air and has skewed people's perspectives a bit.

@Rapido although stats don't always tell the whole picture I lilke that you have taken into account people's role/position in the team. 3rd seamer is without a doubt the toughest gig out, you regularly have to bowl with an old ball against set batsmen for long periods. Our openers wouldn't have the same record if they only ever got the old ball - Bond and Boult especially who get a lot of wickets with the early swing.

If it wasn't obvious, I fucking love Wags.