Haha what a cock.

Machpants said:

**"There was no such joy a week later against the fired-up South Africans and Hansen had to go back to the 2007 World Cup quarter-final defeat to France for the last time he saw such a lack of awareness from his men.

"Our game management was next door to zero … that was our biggest problem," he said. "No one's going to get hung out to dry for us losing. We just have to pick up on the little things.

"I think back to 2007 as the last time I can think of the game that we so poorly managed. It was the pressure of the scoreboard and the pressure of the event and this time the same thing happened.

"We got really individualistic and tried to do it all by ourselves. All we had to do was take a big breath and maybe take a shot at goal in the 66th minute and that gives you three points and maybe get a try and that puts you in front. That's one example.

"A dropped goal wouldn't be bad either would it, and we couldn't do one of those in 2007 because it's not the thing that the five-eighth at that time is used to doing. It's not one that Beauden [Barrett] has done, I don't think he's ever got one [in tests]."**

Pretty damning from Hansen about leadership and management there!

Yeah pretty brutal assessment there. The fact is we did well to get back in the game after gifting them a big lead but when it came to the "championship minutes" we ch ch chok....fell short.
Similar situation to the last Lions test. Despite getting fucked over by the dodgy non penalty call we still should have closed that game out.

Really hope they can use this loss to get that hard edge where not only can we blow teams off the park after 50mins but if it comes down to the last 10 we march down field and put the game to bed. That is what that 2011-2015 team was so good at.

Outside Read and Cane our loosies are by far the biggest weakness in our team.
The continued non selection of Todd doesn't help.
Fifita FFS.

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@shadowtrooper said in All Blacks v Springboks:

That was I didn't get. It became pretty obvious early on BB was having a shocker from the tee, so why not change the kicker? DMac - or hell even get the pimply giraffe to earn his keep FFS!

This was the real issue. You wonder what thought Read gave to changing the kicker.

Does Read actually have any input into this in reality though? I would think it is decided between the kickers.

@chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573

According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.

Those stats don't take into account the difficulty of the kicks. What they could suggest though is that Jordie was taking the harder kicks given BB's total attempted was around 2/3rds that of Dmac or Mounga with Jordie making up the difference. From memory they shared the kicking a fair bit with JB doing exactly that.

What the stats clearly show is that Lima had a bad year kicking.

Liam Squire is about as robust as Ryan Crotty. Except Crotty recovers faster.

Im predicting now that our issues at 6 will still be issues at the RWC.

@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@pukunui said in All Blacks v Springboks:

Some utterly brainless shit cost us big time tonight.

BB's rubbish goal kicking was the losing of the game. Just not good enough. Problem is that it has been so obvious for so long but we keep getting told there is no issue. Criminal that there were two better kickers in the team going unused too.

The lack of droppie attempt at the end was a big concern too. That is the sort of bone headed play that results in embarrassing early exits from RWC's.

Im more pissed off about the nature of the loss than actually losing the game. This AB team looks great when things come off and we can run up big scores quickly but this game and the Lions series have exposed them a bit when they are under pressure late in a game. We are probably 2:2 in close finishes in the last two seasons.

From 2008-2015 we had quite a few close losses with some ‘brain dead’ play, but yet won two world cups. Go figure aye.

And we saw some pretty important goal/drop kicks go over to win us those world cups. Go figure.

Some utterly brainless shit cost us big time tonight.

BB's rubbish goal kicking was the losing of the game. Just not good enough. Problem is that it has been so obvious for so long but we keep getting told there is no issue. Criminal that there were two better kickers in the team going unused too.

The lack of droppie attempt at the end was a big concern too. That is the sort of bone headed play that results in embarrassing early exits from RWC's.

Im more pissed off about the nature of the loss than actually losing the game. This AB team looks great when things come off and we can run up big scores quickly but this game and the Lions series have exposed them a bit when they are under pressure late in a game. We are probably 2:2 in close finishes in the last two seasons.

Is Perofeta injured?

@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

@nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

Touching on that.....I genuinely think NMS has had a more dramatic fall than Rokokoko/Cullen.....thoughts on this? They went from being freaks to being merely ok. He's taken a much bigger tumble from a lower height.

How many games has he actually played in the last 3 years? I would put this down to injuries wrecking a career rather than a form falling off a cliff.