Firstly I must say Australian mainstream media is an absolute cancer. I see these reporters at these events and they have zero interest in reporting what is going on, everything has to be some sort of narrative. I guess they just don't have souls, any journo's on here care to talk me through how they sleep at night?

Despite the misreporting however the event was a massive success.

We had in excess of 500 people attend with thankfully minimal representation of the ''alt-right' crowd,these groups were advised they would not be welcome..glad they didn't show because a skinny 5'8" bloke in a high vis like myself might have struggled to kick out 6'4" steroid abusers.

The ferals had their counter protest of maybe 100-150, bravely protesting against nazism, facism, the kkk, homophobia, rape, transphobia, mysogyny, immigration control, pollution..eating meat, drinking milk (excluding soy). Just kinda sad for them that we weren't actually rallying for any of those ideals.

Some protesters managed to sneak in and bravely pulled out a megaphone with a siren on it in order to drown out one of our speakers talking about her experience living in an domestic violence shelter with her 3 children. They were evicted with a bit of a scuffle.

There was also another siren in a chilly bin that went off, again bravely drowning out a young man speaking about his experience of being sexually abused and his multiple suicide attempts.

Any neutral walking past would have immediately seen who the good guys were and who the deranged lunatics were but thankfully aussie mainstream media can do the thinking for the folk at home by labelling it an 'Anti-feminist march' (SBS) or the MC as 'Extreme right campaigner' (Channel 9)

Anyway a bit of a rant but it was really successful, huge turnout had some amazing conversations with the public. So many don't know that 40 Australian men commit suicide every week and when I explained these stats to most folk they fully understood what we were about and couldn't believe the protesters. Had some chats with Mens rights campaigners nearly in tears finally seeing public support for something they have been fighting and being demonised for for nearly 20 years.

The best news however of the whole day was a call from 'Dads In Distress' the charity we were raising money for. They had been inundated with calls from men who had been watching the march live on youtube and for the first time felt some hope in their lives about the situations they were in. Many were suicidal and reaching out for the first time because of what we were doing.

One thing that also bugged me..and surely it's been mentioned is what happened to our must win attitude? That penalty with what was in 10 mins to go to bring the gap to 7, I saw going for that kick as an admission that we were happy settling for a draw. It should have been smashed to the corner and had everything thrown at the try line, sure we may have blown it and lost by 10 overall but at least we we'd have the right attitude and wouldn't die wondering.

This is outstanding. CNN correspondent during a radio interview accuses the host of 'white privilege'...only problem for this deranged leftist is unbeknown to her, he is actually black.

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in The Folau Factor:

@Paekakboyz said in The Folau Factor:

I think they are screwed. But with his devotion to god and being able to share his message I wonder if Foal-ow has thought much about the ripple effect for RA in terms of staff and financial impact. He says this isn't about money, but if his court action cripples RA that's a massive cost (literally) to all involved in the sport. I get that from his perspective that's a non issue as it's about expressing his beliefs. But far out this will impact a big number of folks as it works its way towards a messy conclusion.

Fair point... but maybe QANTAS and ARU could have had similar thoughts....

Seems a lot of the current orthadoxy is based more on emotion than rationalism. The sooner organisations realise that the cultish 8% of twitter users (and the media who amplify it) that drive online discourse are not actually representative of normal every-day folk the better.

The worst part of that night in Cardiff was depressingly getting back to my accommodation only to discover my lucky All Blacks boxers were on inside-out. Sorry team.

So for anyone following my family drama regarding this virus. My brother and his wife have just touched down in Auckland after the honeymoon from hell.

They left NZ on Thursday for Madrid, escaped there a less than a day before total lockdown, got to London Saturday night and thankfully following my advice rather than their agent booked the first available flight back to NZ via Dubai.

You kiwis will not be happy to hear that the plane had a lot of people on who aren't kiwis who were sick with some sort of a cold..oh and apparently really easy getting into NZ. Rest of their honeymoon will be in isolation.

In a weeks time they might just see this not so much as an unlucky honeymoon but really a very lucky bullet dodge.

Sorry to hear that @Baron-Silas-Greenback ,

You've been part of the furniture here since even my lurking days in the early 2000's. I might have celebrated this announcement a few years back thinking it was a good thing that someone who viewed the world through a lens I disagreed with just disappeared, no doubt some will now. But like the 10th man principle, sometimes that sole opposing voice that you hate so much might just be trying to stop you from running headfirst into a brick wall. You were harsh…often too harsh, you didn't suffer fools, but your opinions were always your own and not just regurgitating a headline read the morning before or jumping on a popular bandwagon because everyone else was.

I think you also followed sport at some point, Cricket was it? Rugby too?

All the best for your future life as a tsf lurker trying your darndest not to correct a poster so wrong its scarcely comprehensible.

So a few comments from a dairy farmer:

*So many variables. Canterbury and Wairarapa are drier soil types. River flow is less so higher chance of pollutants to build up.

In Taranaki however we started a fencing and riparian scheme voluntarily in 1995 - most farmers brought into it and over 97 percent fenced and over 90 ish planted. Canterbury and Wairarapa are further behind.

Stocking rates is also a concern (Cows per hectare) - Taranaki is 2-2.5 cow per hectare and Canterbury is 2.5-3.5. Also Higher input farms in Canterbury and Wairarapa - reliant on brought in feeds etc to maintain higher stock rates. Also depends on where waterways are etc - Most farmland in taranaki is off the mountain shorter stretch then to the sea - less chance of pollutants to build up. Wairarapa is from lake Wairarapa which is fed further up by rivers that have thousands of hectares of farmland and towns cities polluting. Canterbury Has the most pristine water coming from the alps but it meanders slowly so sedimentation happens quicker which will catch nitrates etc. Way more to go into and way more science needed to solve the issues.*

Well I also blame Laurel. She knows she has a massive unfair advantage and is cheating other girls out of their hard earned dreams. The gentlemanly (sue me) thing to do would be not compete and maybe go into coaching or something.

Getting pretty damned serious now.

@Frank said in Black Lives Matter:

I guess Don Lemon would say his views have "evolved".

Scary isn't it.

Either intentional deception (which is evil considering the consequences) or like many others he's been completely brainwashed into the woke cult.

An oldie but a goodie

@antipodean Jesus H fuck, I had to check to see if that was a satire account. It's not.

Why can't we just give them their own country, give it a few months and then come back to find the problem has rectified itself.

I wonder willing is the populace going to be going back to house arrest after only recently tasting freedom? Might be a fair few saying "fuck it, I did my part and government still fucked it up, not going to do that again"

Should have just thrown bricks and destroyed property like nice reasonable people.

https://martinezgazette.com/two-martinez-residents-charged-with-hate-crime-for-defacing-black-lives-matter-mcontrural/

@canefan By keeping business closed because covid

@Crucial said in US Politics:

@Rembrandt said in US Politics:

@JC I stopped following it, but since it isn't big news now it it is probably become just another 'walls are closing in' moment. I'm sure the next bombshell is only a day or 2 away.

On a a positive note 4.8 million jobs added in June is a good sign. https://thehill.com/policy/finance/505577-june-jobs-report-economy-coronavirus-reopening
Trump's aggregated approval rating has also stabilised along with it.

Would be great if 2020 had no more nasty surprises.

The jobs number is simply a rebound.
I have seen a chart that puts it into perspective. Massive drop followed by a small gain.
Yes, positive that the rebound has started but nothing out of the ordinary and consistent with the attempts to “re-open”
Claiming a victory from it has possibilities of setting up a failure should the growth not continue the same.

Yep agree though I think Trump's approval rating and chance of success this election is tied pretty tightly to this, as such I'd be expecting Democrats (and their media outlets) to do everything in their power to ensure the economy does not recover and covid/blm/Godzilla (or whatever the hell is next) remains front-an-centre

@JC I stopped following it, but since it isn't big news now it it is probably become just another 'walls are closing in' moment. I'm sure the next bombshell is only a day or 2 away.

On a a positive note 4.8 million jobs added in June is a good sign. https://thehill.com/policy/finance/505577-june-jobs-report-economy-coronavirus-reopening
Trump's aggregated approval rating has also stabilised along with it.

Would be great if 2020 had no more nasty surprises.

@canefan said in Coronavirus - Australia:

What's gone wrong in VIC? Let down at the border?

It would be extremely interesting if there were an inquiry into what happened.