Anyone here rowing on a concept 2??
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I was in a gym this afternoon with a guy who is a GB runner. I'm 90 Kg, he must be at least two thirds of that. I did 5,000 metres at 2:10 per 500m pace mostly, final time just over 22 minutes. He was pulling 1:42!!!!<br />
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jaysus - he was at 1:42 for the 5000, that's good going!<br />
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Talking to a mate of a mate of Rob Wadell's. Rob was 100kg (around) when he set his erg world record, which has since been beaten.<br />
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He is now about 120 since taking up yachting, and reckons with the extra power he wouild kill the record, but doesn't get enough time to train for it. that extra power would be lethal! -
I've just been looking up all the records.<br />
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[url="http://www.concept2.com/05/training/competition/records_all.asp"]http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... ds_all.asp[/url]<br />
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Rob Waddell's record was 2000 metres in 5.38.3 in 1999., it was beaten by the German Matthias Siejkowski who got 5.37.0 in 2002.<br />
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New Zealand still holds the woman's record for 2k. Georgina Evers-Swindell got 6.28.2 in 2002. -
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I do need to take at least a day a week off from the cross-trainer, otherwise I get pains in my lower back, not sure why....<br />
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Core muscles - because your arms and legs are all over the joint you need to keep an upright torso and you might find you're leaning forward slightly on the machine (some of them do), and trying to pull your shoulders back to a vertical body position, thus your lower back is always tense. Try keeping your abs tight during the exercise and it might improve. Otherwise try gripping a higher or lower position with your hands. -
Bart , thats a great time for 5000. Afew years and kg's ago , i got a bit addicted to the rowing machine and my best was 18.57 and that was absolutetly flat out.<br />
I use to do 5000 on rower, 20 minutes on bike level6 then another 5000 on rower(always L 10).<br />
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Fuck i would kill for the motivation to start doing that again. -
[quote]Core muscles - because your arms and legs are all over the joint you need to keep an upright torso and you might find you're leaning forward slightly on the machine (some of them do), and trying to pull your shoulders back to a vertical body position, thus your lower back is always tense. Try keeping your abs tight during the exercise and it might improve. Otherwise try gripping a higher or lower position with your hands.[/quote]<br />
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Cheers Nick, this all makes sense when I think about my body position when on the machine. -
used my sprint 6 strokes every 250 metres over 5k today and set new PB of 17:43. heart was up to 180-190 (between 18 and 19 beats in 6 seconds) once I finished. Colours were looking wuite interesting for a while there once I had finished :idiot2:<br />
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The World record time is obscene. -
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Cheers Nick, this all makes sense when I think about my body position when on the machine.<br />
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I used to get the same thing on the treadmill when I set it to sprint. Something about the back getting sore from holding up my manboobs <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> -
nearly there Bart - keep trying <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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go to [url="http://www.concept2.com"]www.concept2.com[/url] aqnd register online, then keep a log of your rowing, a great way to keep motivated and keep rowing!
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Mate of mine just back from overseas has moved into my place and is a mad keen on rowing machines and has been looking at hireing one for 10 bucks a week, Concept 2 I think he said? So looks like the competitive nature will take over and this thread could come in handy.
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I love the rower, but my problem has always been (no sniggering please...) that I get a terribly sore arse after about 10 mins on it. Not a 'pressure' thing, but a sort of tight straining in the muscles at the top/back of the butt. Each time I try to develop a serious rowing habit, I end up quitting because of it - use the bikes and the treadmill for aerobics. Any one else experience this/solved the problem? Annoys me, 'cos it's a great whole body work out - I used to row in a Uni eight, so it ain't technique, either...
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stretching maybe Mr Death?? Also try putting bybble wrap on the seat, removes pressure points on your arse apparantly. The bug bubble stuff I would assume, although I have never used either. used to put a towel down on the seat, folded, but have a hard arse now and just jump on and row!!
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Given that the pain is at the top of your arse Death, I'd agree with Bart - you're probably stretching too much. Also make sure that you're wearing a long shirt to cover your whole back, and that you're not "gapping" between shirt and pants. Cold air on your back wouldn't help.<br />
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When I ride the bike now I've always got a long singlet on under whatever shirt/jumper I'm wearing. Sure I COULD buy some fancy shmancy bike shirt, but I don't want to look like a knob <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
Thanks guys - this thread has motivated me to give it another try. Don't think it's the seat - I normally stick a towel on already, just for comfort. Might be over reaching forward: problem is, it's difficult not to go for maximum reach when you're really committing. Ah well - just have to suck it up, I guess..
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yeah, don't over reach, I get a sore lower back when I reach all the way to full extension, but also get my best times when I do that, so save it for the 'effort rows'. Also try lowering your stroke rate, and pulling harder basically. Mix it up, faster rate, slower rate, but keep your 500 splits going the same.<br />
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If you row slow rate for a week or two, but the splits low still, when you up your rate again, your splits just plummet!!<br />
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Also when you finish, plenty of back arches to stretch that lower back out again. And if not doing any sort of weight programme, throw in piles of press ups too, to give the chest some work.