@gt12 Most of the English team have been gracious in victory, but the gloating by some of their ex players, media and fans has been really hard to stomach.

@TeWaio The boundary rule was introduced to determine the winner in a tied super over in T20s, and it makes sense in that format of the game I suppose. The clowns at the ICC probably never envisaged this happening in a ODI CWC semi or final so applied the same rule to ODIs. Makes zero sense in the 50 over format.

@canefan Dharmasena only signaled six after that consultation with Erasmus. They hadn't signaled it earlier. But who knows, you could be right. Just not meant to be.

@hydro11 said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

The problem with the overthrows is I have never seen it ruled that way. I don't see why they would suddenly say it was only five runs because it is a final.

But why would the umpires consult each other if they had thought it was a straightforward six runs?

@canefan Fate was against us, plain and simple. Boult actually bowled almost the perfect last over apart from one half volley which was an attempted yorker gone wrong and was dispatched for six. Unfortunately that was the third ball of the over and gave England a chance at reaching the target, every other ball were yorkers or close to yorkers. Had that bad ball been later in the over, we win, simple as that as the freakish overthrow would not have happened and the equation would have been impossible at that point.

Living in Australia, it's been amazing to see how much support the Aussies have given the crappers over the last few days. From their media to the fans, they have been with us and have felt our pain. Am going to do something that I have never done before and support Australia in the Ashes. Go Australia!

@SynicBast said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@SynicBast said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@No-Quarter said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@No-Quarter said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

Can we talk about rugby please?

Not just yet.

Cheating pommy bastard, you're banned from commenting on cricket for at least 6 months.

Fair enough, that will still leave me three and a half years of gloating before we inevitably get dumped out in the first round next time.

What's the mood among English cricket fans? I imagine a fair bit of relief to finally get a WC... but in bizarre circumstances.

Difficult to tell atm. Relief to finally get over the line certainly but allied to real sympathy for the Craps and all the Kiwi fans. I would have hated to have lost like that and I agree with all on here that the boundaries rule is a bit shit but... they were the rules that we all signed up to. I'd guess it was put there by some numpty who knows little about the game but felt that this would encourage the big hitters. TV rules and all that.

I don't think that we over here will ever think yeah we won but *. It's a W and a World Cup.

TBH it's not the boundary thing that really annoys me it's the general incompetence of all three umpires regarding the Overthrows and the relevant law that irks me most. Oh for Reiffel and Gunner Gould - I would have taken Gould as an umpire in the final regardless of his nationality - Dharmasena and Erasmus are second rate to begin with

The wrong call on the overthrows is a bit of a shocker alright but I'm never a fan of "well if that hadn't have happened, then we would have won" as you never know if the same outcome will apply. Like if you lose a game of rugby by two points having missed a kickable penalty - the dynamics will the be different had the kick gone over. You can argue less so in cricket but there is no certainty.

Missing a kickable penalty is on the players - correct application of the laws is the responsibility and raison d'être of umpires and unlike an lbw, there is no interpretation or umpires judgement - it was a black/white application. all three umpires got the relevant law completely wrong despite having the timeand opportunity to get it right - Stokes should have been off strike....

You have convinced me. Definitely an *

@SynicBast said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@akan004 said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@No-Quarter said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

Can we talk about rugby please?

Not just yet.

Cheating pommy bastard, you're banned from commenting on cricket for at least 6 months.

Fair enough, that will still leave me three and a half years of gloating before we inevitably get dumped out in the first round next time.

Who would want to gloat after a result like that? I certainly wouldn't had NZ been awarded the Cup.

I'd actually feel slightly sick about the result if we'd been the ones awarded the Cup. Thankfully there are some good memories I cxan bask in - like knocking out India in the SF - that is something i will saviour for fucking years

Me too, although I would still rather us be crowned champions. But yeah, it would feel incredibly hollow and certainly not something to gloat about.

@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@No-Quarter said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:

Can we talk about rugby please?

Not just yet.

Cheating pommy bastard, you're banned from commenting on cricket for at least 6 months.

Fair enough, that will still leave me three and a half years of gloating before we inevitably get dumped out in the first round next time.

Who would want to gloat after a result like that? I certainly wouldn't had NZ been awarded the Cup.