@jegga said in NZ Politics:

Ffs

I hate this sort of gotcha politics, nothing to do with the govt, this shit show could have happened under any govt. People should attack the govt over things they are responsible for, not this ticky tack shot

Climate hysteria cost Labor this election.

@MajorRage said in Tommy Robinson:

@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:

@MajorRage shows camera footage from both groups.
What other side is there?°

What do you want me to say Siam? That the video isn't one sided?

Because I won't. Because it ain't.

I am genuinely impressed with how determined you are to believe the media representation of Robinson.

I have a different view of this. I actually support the police actions, people should be able to march and protest including the MDL.
Once things got messy, that is when police needed ot step in, I am not convinced they did enough, but that might come out.

But the hypocrisy stinks, especially around the reporting, and that shows that the rot in the UK media is real.

Bran makes more and more sense as I think about it for 3 reasons.
1/ As Tyrion said he has a story, he played a role... a role that can be embellished for the peasant classes.
2/He is acceptable to the nobles. He is a noble, but not a war monger or tyrant.
3/ He is bloody well mystical as fuck. His all seeing eyes would make loyalists knowledgable and traitors nervous.

Who exactly is better?

@NTA said in The Folau Factor:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in The Folau Factor:

And Falou? Did he get to agree?

so you're saying that even the player's union was against him?

Both Rugby Australia and RUPA had to agree on the members of the panel.

Nope. I think they played it straight. But the other half of the decision makers did not.

Do you think the ARU played it straight?

@antipodean said in The Folau Factor:

@Virgil said in The Folau Factor:

@NTA said in The Folau Factor:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in The Folau Factor:

He didnt get a fair trial the first time, logical for him to assume he wouldnt get a fair appeal either.

Interesting viewpoint, given nobody here has read anything about the details of the CofC hearing, and nor will they due to confidentiality.

So I'll ask: what was unfair?

The result.

I think it's a prima facie case he violated the code of conduct given they specifically have an inclusion policy.

As to allegations of a stitch-up:

RA confirmed on Friday morning that John West QC will chair the three person panel along with RA representative Kate Eastman SC and RUPA’s John Boultbee AM.

Both Rugby Australia and RUPA had to agree on the members of the panel.

And Falou? Did he get to agree?

@NTA said in The Folau Factor:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in The Folau Factor:

He didnt get a fair trial the first time, logical for him to assume he wouldnt get a fair appeal either.

Interesting viewpoint, given nobody here has read anything about the details of the CofC hearing, and nor will they due to confidentiality.

So I'll ask: what was unfair?

The fact that the people who decided the appointees on the independent panel.. had already indicated his guilt and hung him out to dry. It was a kangaroo court with a pre determined outcome.

Nobody doubted what the outcome was going to be. There was nothing much 'independent' about the tribunal.

Do you think the tribunal was independent?