@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

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Yes!!! They charged a phone and got some gas! This is TOP TOP news for us kiwis!! Love it!!

Yuss , I’m five minutes from there! On my way

My paperwork can wait too. Let's form a posse and string the cunts up.

Bogans don't do paperwork. Unless it's the dole, the TAB or a court summons

Perhaps he thinks wiping his arse counts as paperwork?

And May's Government survives the no confidence vote. So this leaves us with a Prime Minister and a Government that never wanted to leave, that have had their plan for leaving trashed and no real plan B option, trying to cobble together some form of plan in the next two and a bit months. May has been shafted by her own party over the Brexit plan but yet again they have backed her because no-one else wants to try and handle this clusterfuck.

@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

As an initial stab, here’s my guess for Ireland squad with a couple of options in 2-3 positions - all coming from Connacht who have improved greatly this season.

With Luke McGrath definitely out, and a question mark over when Kieran Marmion can return, his understudy, Caolin Blade at Connacht should be a deserved shout. Blade and outhalf Jack Carty have been the best form halfback pairing of the Irish teams this season in my view. And if we lose a 10 between now and Japan, Carty is well-worth considering as a back-up. Ultan Dillane has recovered some of his earlier career form and could oust his Connacht team-mate Quinn Roux to get a lock spot. Ditto Finlay Bealham instead of Munster’s Kilcoyne. One other Connacht player who might be considered is midfielder, Tom Farrell, who partners Aki in the Westerners first team.

Hookers: Best, Cronin, Scannell.
LH: Healy, McGrath, Kilcoyne/Bealham,
TH: Furlong, Porter, John Ryan.
Locks: James Ryan, Toner, Beirne, Henderson, Dillane/Roux.
Back-rowers: SOB, POM, Stander, vdF, Conan, Murphy, Leavy, Ruddock.
Scumhalves: Murray, Cooney, Marmion/Blade.
Outhalves: Sexton, Carbery, Byrne/Carty.
Centres: Henshaw, Aki, Ringrose, Chris Farrell/Tom Farrell
Back three: Conway, Stockdale, Earls, R Kearney, Larmour, Addison.

Not a bad initial stab!

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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

@MN5 that's pretty funny from you!

I'm not trying to be funny I fucken hate the Beatles although will concede each member apart from Ringo did at least one banger of a tune as a solo artist.

Cue Alan Partridge: Wings - the band the Beatles could have been.

@Siam said in Aussie Cricket:

@MN5 377 first class matches, 351 list A

That might be more top level cricket than anyone in NZ

Get stuck into his commentary by all means but the facts of his cricket experiences fucks all over your feelings

He was also much admired for his captaincy - a bit like Mike Brearley, a better skipper than player. Suggests he knows his stuff though.

@Bones said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

@Catogrande You have them down your way too? They had a nice wee trek around a few of the Kent rugby clubs last year, feral fucks.

Some down here but not too many and not too feral. However I lived in NW Kent for a number of years so the subset is well known to me.

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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

Irish Ferals are here

One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is our decreasing ability as individuals or small groups in society to effectively enforce fundamental social norms.
Increasingly we need all manner of authority intervention to settle pretty obvious anti social situations.

The upshot of all this is that if you strategically planned and executed a way of life where social approval meant nothing, there's fuck all ways we have of stopping that behaviour or even coping with it.

What to do with people that violate or ignore long held social contracts?

What do you do with people that won't pay fines and aren't deterred by the threat of jail (even on rare occasions where it gets that far)?

You can only remove them from your territory and even that's fraught with damning disapproval.

This is really evident in developing countries with slack law and order, where a community lead hiding takes the place ( bloody effectively to a point, I might add). But not in "civilised" 1st world.

The way things stand now these antisocial groups and individuals know that they'll face little or no consequences, and will be significantly empowered, and we'll have to clean up the mess because of public relations

Frustrates the fuck out of me, but that's what we've got because we have no plan be for 1 or 2 percent who don't give a fuck in a physical world

We need to take a leaf out of Singapore's book. Harshly punish those who engage in antisocial behaviours that have a significant impact on the rest of the population

Won't be happening anytime soon with horse face in charge. People acting feral is obviously on account of horrible upbringing so let's counsel them first instead of the genuine victims.

It's not just us. The West has gone totally overboard with individual rights. Fine these pikies for littering and public disturbance and deport the lot of them

Fining/pinching them is easier said than done. The police and or council will need to prove that it was them that did the littering etc. That would mean members of the public being willing to provide a statement and attend court if necessary. An hour and half for the statement and then giving up a whole day's work (possibly more) to attend court if the grubs plead not guilty. And that is even if the police/council can prove which individual(s) from the group did the littering/public nuisance

Exactly. Welcome to the Pikey problem.

@No-Quarter We're doomed!

@Derm-McCrum said in NH club rugby:

@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

@Derm-McCrum said in NH club rugby:

@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

@Derm-McCrum said in NH club rugby:

On the topic of NZ players and other nationalities, here’s the top 12 birth countries with players contracted outside their domestic scene and where they are playing in Europe.

Do you know how far down the various systems those numbers are for - ie in England is it just Premiership or for Wales, Scotland and Ireland is it just the Pro14 regions or does it go further down?

I did PRO12, Top 14, ProD2, Eng Premiership & Championship.

I also did Japanese Top League but didn’t include in that one. I have it in others. I’ll put up a few more by end of week - work distracting me.

First off, get a better work/life balance and up your game will you? There are people here depending on you.

So, for England and France those numbers are spread between what around 25-27 clubs each? Italy the numbers are spread between 2? 4,3 and 3 for The Celts?

Sorry about the tardiness.
England - Premiership 12 clubs, Championship 12 clubs
France - Top 14 - 14 clubs - ProD2 - 16 clubs
Ireland - 4 clubs
Wales - 4 clubs
Scotland - 2 clubs
Italy - 2 clubs

Apology accepted.

It helps put more flesh on the bones of those numbers. In some ways it paints a worse picture than one may have thought. From those figures and the others you've supplied it seems England, France and Japan have over 30% of their professional players born abroad. Obviously some of those are genuine cases of English, French etc people that were just born elsewhere but I doubt those are significant numbers. For England (grasping at straws here), there is a fair chunk of NH born players and this I'd think was always so with many Irish, Scots and Welsh playing in England. Nonetheless though it is not a good picture.

@Derm-McCrum said in NH club rugby:

@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

@Derm-McCrum said in NH club rugby:

On the topic of NZ players and other nationalities, here’s the top 12 birth countries with players contracted outside their domestic scene and where they are playing in Europe.

Do you know how far down the various systems those numbers are for - ie in England is it just Premiership or for Wales, Scotland and Ireland is it just the Pro14 regions or does it go further down?

I did PRO12, Top 14, ProD2, Eng Premiership & Championship.

I also did Japanese Top League but didn’t include in that one. I have it in others. I’ll put up a few more by end of week - work distracting me.

First off, get a better work/life balance and up your game will you? There are people here depending on you.

So, for England and France those numbers are spread between what around 25-27 clubs each? Italy the numbers are spread between 2? 4,3 and 3 for The Celts?