@Victor-Meldrew said in Brexit:

@MajorRage said in Brexit:

... The self-indulgence across the board is breathtaking

And entirely predictable

@Rembrandt said in Brexit:

Surely there is no way in hell that the EU will want a No Deal way too much money on the table.

They’re in a position where they can always get more money. Until of course they can’t. But that’s a long way off.

@Rembrandt Yeah I agree with you there and in truth I feel it is just the opposite side of the same coin, bigoted and lazy.

I just came across this and thought I'd post it here as an illustration to those that think immigration and racism were not part of the dynamics of Brexit.

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@Frank said in Brexit:

I am wondering if anyone on here thinks a 2nd referendum would be a good idea. And if so, why?

As you may have sussed, I voted remain, but I really cannot see the benefit of a further referendum. No way it could again be on a simple leave/stay option. We've done that, so end of. A suggestion has been going around that it should be along the lines of go with X deal/stay. That to me is almost impossible. Firstly the fucking MPs cannot find an acceptable deal. Secondly any deal will be chock full of complexity and to expect the majority of the electorate to actually read the full details of the deal let alone understand all the ramifications would be fanciful. Dealing with that shit is what we vote the politicians in for.

So no, for me we just have to deal with what we've got ourselves in to. Trouble is, we're not dealing with it.

@Rembrandt said in Brexit:

So can Italy reject an extension request from the UK?

Surely they aren't exactly on happy terms with the EU.

My understanding is that it needs a unanimous vote to allow the extension, therefore, yes, Italy could veto it.

@antipodean said in Brexit:

@Calf said in Brexit:

@Catogrande It's ironic that we're now in a position where whether or not we leave with no deal is probably going to be decided by the EU.

How? You just leave. Rip the band-aid off and deal with the consequences. Humans are remarkably adaptable.

For sure. One way or another we'll muddle through, like we always do. My point though wasn't that we couldn't make our own decision but that we likely wouldn't. Not by March 29th anyway and that means it will be the EU's decision. Things might change in the seven working days we have left but I doubt it. Extension is at the mercy of the EU, Parliament has said no to a no deal exit. Whose decision do you think it will be?

@Calf said in Brexit:

@MajorRage said in Brexit:

Situation is royally fucked!

Now there’s an idea! Get the Queen to dissolve parliament and go all Charles I on the situation to sort it out. Bring back the divine right of Kings (or Queens).

The Tower is still fit for purpose for anyone who disagrees.

But then if historical precedent is anything to go by dear old Brenda gets her head chopped off and we end up being ruled by an aggressive bloke with warts that wants to invade Ireland.

@Calf said in Brexit:

@Catogrande It's ironic that we're now in a position where whether or not we leave with no deal is probably going to be decided by the EU. We haven't done a great job so far of taking back control. Even worse, each EU member has to agree. So Malta, for example, has the ability to totally fuck up our economy. (Although Malta always votes for us in Eurovision so we should be OK.)

But we haven't won Eurovision for years. We are so fucked.

@Calf Yeah there's a few things that they could do, but you hit the nail on the head. She is in such a weak position, which really limits the options. ATM I can't see past a no deal exit or an extension.