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    Crazy Horse

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    • RE: Veitch is done

      @gt12 said in Veitch is done:

      Firstly, Veitch is a FW.

      But responding to the current discussion, as someone who has had an abusive partner, I can only say that I had to constantly remember not to return fire because I knew I’d get dragged off (and kicked out of the country).

      Ridiculously, it took me quite some time to realize that the behavior was a pattern and that it wouldn’t change.

      Luckily, I also knew that my actions reflected my choices. For that reason, regardless of the circumstances, she would have to be armed for me to fire away, and for that I can’t really see clear to give Veitch any room here.

      I too had an abusive partner years ago. I was a young fella a long way from home and I had no idea how to cope. I was never physically hurt, but fuck me the emotional shit was out of this world. This girl made me the angriest I have ever been in my life. She knew the buttons to push and she wouldn't let go. I would often cop it for something as trivial as walking into a room with a smile on my face. I would try to walk away from her but she would follow and keep going at me. I found out during that relationship that I would never hit a woman because if I was capable of it I surely have belted her. The relationship ended for other unrelated reasons, but I still wonder what would have happened if we stayed together longer.

      She told me her last partner threatened and attacked her with a knife and I started to understand why as our relationship progressed. She did me a favour in the long run, my Crazy Lady Radar is finely tuned. Trust me, it's all in their eyes and their hair if you know what to look for.

      My experience is so common. Every day I go to DVs where the female says one thing and the male says another thing, or doesn't say anything at all. I have lost count of the times I have been told by the male that he and she had been arguing and she would not let it go. He has tried walking away but she has followed him and said something that made him snap. "You'll never get to see the kids!" is common. He punches a hole in the wall, or gives her a push, and suddenly we turn up and we are dragging him away.

      These things build, the frustrations grow and tolerance levels drop over time. A bit like Chinese water torture I suppose. One drop seems trivial but when you are exposed to a drop over and over again sooner or later you are going to lose it.

      In Queensland the law is set up to view the female as the victim. As first response officers we are trained to determine who is 'most in need of protection'. And guess who is usually deemed as 'most in need of protection'? Yep, the female. All through our training the aggrieved (victim) is the female and the respondent (abuser) is the male. As males in these training sessions we speak up but we are talked down by the desk bound females running the course. On the plus side, female colleagues are starting to speak up as well, but they too are talked down by the facilitators.

      Every DV we go to we are obliged to record the details on the computer system and we have to designate an aggrieved and a respondent. Most of the time we have conflicting versions. Earlier I said we are trained to view things as who is 'most in need of protection'. Parity disparity in terms of strength is most often used as a way of determining 'most in need of protection', so given the male is almost always stronger than the female the male is recorded as the respondent.

      Policy makers, law makers and other stake holders use police statistics to further the agenda they are pushing. If the stats are not accurately recording what is actually happening between couples how can the policies and laws be effective?

      We have many support agencies we can refer females of DV to. Support agencies for men? Yes there are one or two. But they are set up first and foremost to deal with males as the respondent, to help the male deal with his anger issues and violence. There is bugger all help out there for male victims. If you are a male, and you are getting abused, you are all but on your own.

      I can’t help but wonder how many male suicides, how many family tragedies where the male kills himself and the kids, and how many murders of wives/partners are the result of DV where the female has been a psychological abuser and the male had nowhere to go for help, nowhere to go where he would be listened to and taken seriously.

      I said in an earlier post that I could go on. I guess I just did and there is plenty more that I could ramble on about. This subject is close to my heart. I have been on the receiving end of DV and I have investigated DV. I am frustrated as hell because as a society we are getting it wrong, and while we are getting it wrong people are suffering.

      It sucks that I feel I have to say this last bit, but…What I wrote above is not meant to be a reference to the Veitch case.

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz

      @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

      Ffs stuff

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109924118/the-faces-of-fatal-police-chases-teens-make-up-half-of-crash-victims

      For most of my fifteen years as a first response copper in Qld I have been navigating a restrictive pursuit policy. Gradually over the years more and more restrictions have been placed on police, leading to what we effectively have now – a no pursuit policy. This is not strictly true, police are allowed to pursue if there is a proven imminent threat to life (not allowed to use officer instinct) and the risks of not pursuing outweigh the risks of pursuing. Without having the policy in front of me to quote, the way it is written there are very few scenarios that would allow police to pursue in accordance with the pursuit policy. Instructions from the police union are very clear – do not pursue because if it goes wrong the officers involved risk having the book thrown at them, criminally and civilly.

      So how did Qld get to this point? We followed the same path NZ seems to be going along. There would be pursuits where the fleeing motorist crashed and died and the media would report them. There would be sounds bites from a member of the public or a family member saying if police hadn’t pursued little Johnny would still be alive. Channel Nine and the Courier Mail were two media outlets that couldn’t resist being vocal in their opposition towards pursuits. As more people died during pursuits the State Coroner started pointing the finger at police. It all came to a head a few years ago when a school girl (thirteen I think) was struck and killed by a fleeing driver as she walked home from school.

      Early in my career (when we still pursued) I experienced the wrath of an old lady following a pursuit. My partner and I had been patrolling through a petrol station when a vehicle caught our eye. It was being driven by a male and there was a female in the passenger seat. We attempted to intercept the vehicle but the driver fled. We pursued for about fifteen minutes (that is actually a long time for a pursuit) before the vehicle lost control and wrecked it’s tyres on a gutter. The driver decamped on foot and we eventually ran him down. Upon walking him back to our police vehicle we were set upon by an angry older female. While she was spraying vitriol at us I saw a younger female standing behind her holding a baby. Then it dawned on me. The old lady was the grandmother of the baby, the younger female was the female who had been the passenger in the fleeing vehicle and the baby belonged to the female passenger and the male driver. The baby had been in the vehicle during the pursuit. The old lady was giving it to us, no holds barred. ā€œHow dare you chase a car while there was a baby in itā€ or words to that effect. I recall the pure hatred in her eyes and the spittle coming from her mouth as she unleashed on us. In her mind we had put her baby grandchild at risk by pursuing her son in-law and daughter. There were two people who knew there was a baby present during that pursuit and those two people were not in the pursuing police car. If we had a known there was a baby in the car that day we would not have pursued, but there was no way in hell we were going to convince the grandmother of this. And it was all because the driver had a suspended licence.

      Nowadays we have effectively handed over the streets. Gangs of youths go on their crime sprees in stolen vehicles and we are virtually powerless to stop them. They drive around like fluffybunnies. It seems like nary a shift goes by without an instance of a vehicle failing to pull over for police. Stolen vehicles are seen roaming the streets every night, but there are restrictions placed on us that can stop us even attempting to intercept those stolen vehicles. It has come to a point where I (and numerous over officers I have spoken to) think twice about patrolling for a stolen vehicle that has been reported to us for fear of things going wrong, our every move scrutinised and us being hung out to dry. More often than not, we keep well away from the area the stolen car is in.

      I haven’t seen any stats, but anecdotally it seems like instances of vehicles being driven directly at police have increased since the restrictive pursuit policy. The grubs know that if they are being closed in on by police all they have to do is get out of the immediate area and they will be home and dry. They will do anything to get away.

      People say why don’t police arrest the driver later? It’s not that easy. A lot of the cars are stolen and even if you recognise the driver you still have to convince a magistrate. And that is very hard when all you had was a fleeting glimpse as the car sped away. If the cars aren’t reported stolen at the time of an evade, you can bet your arse they will be reported shortly afterwards. Old matey drives off from police and then shits himself thinking police got his number plate. No worries, all old matey needs to do is dump the car somewhere and report his car stolen. Tell police he must have left his front door unlocked and some grub came in and got the car keys and stole the car. It’s pretty bloody hard to prove otherwise.

      It has been many years since somebody has been killed during a police pursuit in Queensland. I am conflicted as to whether police should be pursuing with the way society is today. I make it quite clear to younger officers, don’t fucking pursue. It is not worth your job, your house, and your freedom. On the one hand the roads have turned into a free passage for the grubs and it fucking bugs me. I could provide examples of grubs that have been in police sights, have been allowed to get away because of the pursuit policy and have subsequently caused injury or worse to innocent people. On the other hand, no innocent parties have been killed during pursuits. I couldn’t give a shit if the fleeing grubs kill themselves, but I care about the innocent people who are hit by these grubs. Innocent people acceptable collateral damage? What if that person is one of your loved ones? Still acceptable?

      And there is one last powerful motivating factor for police departments around the world to head towards a restrictive pursuit policy. They are scared of getting sued when things go wrong.

      posted in Off Topic
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Happiness Scale

      @NTA said in Happiness Scale:

      @Crazy-Horse I'm absolutely fine if she wants to bring her hot divorced friend in to spice things up.

      He would probably love to join you and your wife too. Go for it!

      posted in Off Topic
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      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Aussie Cricket

      @barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:

      What a great series.

      I don't know about the rest of you, but I am tempted to say this is the best series since 2005.

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz

      I can feel her pain. I get described as the bald guy all the time. It hurts because I just want to be treated like everyone else. Bald guys have feelings too. To make me feel better I take it out on red heads, especially the balding ginger at work. Loser.

      posted in Off Topic
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: All Blacks EOYT 2021

      @hooroo said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
      Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

      To be fair mate I agree, was just trying to see if I could get any nibbles etc. Meant to put smiley face there!

      Did you just quote yourself, agree, reply, and then explain your own post to yourself? šŸ™‚

      It's the only way he can get a decent conversation around this place.

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Coronavirus - Australia

      @voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:

      @nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:

      This is like being at a theme park ride where there’s staggered waiting areas so you don’t know how long the queue is for.

      Although the ride part was finding the initial registration centre - there’s was about 15 people all wandering around in circles until a security guard drove past and pointed it out.

      I’m sitting behind a middle aged male cop who has variously been trolling through Facebook and playing mobile games the entire time. The golf game was fine - then he played a flower arranging game. 🤣

      Hope you said hi to @Crazy-Horse

      Yeah I was wondering who the creepy guy looking over my shoulder was. He kept muttering something about how a Cantab once stole his lollipop. I even tried putting flowers on my phone to calm him down.

      posted in Coronavirus
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Super Rugby News

      Finlay is big trouble I think. Being a ginger this is the opportunity they would have been waiting for to throw the book at him.

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Saffas going?

      Stuff playing the Pacific Islands, Japan, Argentina and whatever is left of Australia every year.

      If the Saffas leave I can't see it being good for NZ.

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Crusaders 2020

      Weird people are finding a way to down play Robertson's decision to stay in NZ when at the same time we are lamenting the knowledge we are losing overseas. I am bloody stoked he's staying on longer, he seems to be a damn good coach and fucked if I want the likes of England getting their mits on him.

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse

    Latest posts made by Crazy Horse

    • RE: All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough

      I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.

      Early days, but it was a big improvement.

      Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.

      I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.

      posted in Rugby Matches
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Coronavirus - Australia

      @antipodean I did hear Victoria has said they are not likely to go backwards but I don't trust the bloody Qld government not to.

      Agree, reintroducing any sort of mandate will piss a lot of people off.

      posted in Coronavirus
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Coronavirus - Australia

      Some talk over here about going back to restrictive mask mandates again because Covid cases have increased. That would be a big fucking downer if they do. Now that things are starting to slowly get back to a pre covid normal I am only now just starting to realise how much the last two or three years got me down. And I had things a lot easier than a lot of people.

      posted in Coronavirus
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

      I am happy about the win, but from my vantage point (mobile phone at the pub surrounded by AFL supporters) I was a tad concerned at how the Irish appeared to comfortably make ground and it seemed they crossed the AB try line every chance they got. Sure they fluffed their lines and failed to score a couple of times but the Irish will take heart from it.

      Also, to gain physical dominace it looked like quite a mental and physical effort from the ABs. We have seen a few games like this over the last couple of years only for the team to not back it up consistently.

      A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough

      posted in Rugby Matches
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: NRL 2022

      15 mins of all out attack from the Warriors and they are unable to score Tigers finally get the ball in a good position. What's the bet they score first?

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: What are you listening to, right now................

      Re Plant as a singer. I love him in the studio but I find his vocals cringeworthy live, to the point where I just can't listen to them live. Bowie is the same. Maybe they fuck with the melodies too much for me to enjoy?

      posted in Off Topic
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Ireland tour to NZ 2022

      @Duluth cheers. I have never gotten my head around who plays what side.

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: Ireland tour to NZ 2022

      @Machpants said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

      @taniwharugby said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

      @Machpants borrow one from the opposition?

      Call up some one from NPC!

      No idea what side he plays, but I wonder if Jager would accept an invite if one was forthcoming?

      posted in Sports Talk
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @Gunner said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      Yay S Barrett at blindside šŸ™„

      Does RTS have covid? If not why the flying f*** is Ennor on the bench ahead of him?
      And don’t even think about giving me the ā€˜experience’ BS.

      Ennor brings experience.

      god i hate this

      what experience? he's played what? 3 games? against who? and done what?

      I get why he's there, because every other 13 in the country is dead. well, the two that the selectors can see anyway. But LF is arguably a better centre anyway.

      You do know I am winding you fluffybunnies up right?

      posted in Rugby Matches
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse
    • RE: All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

      @Gunner said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      Yay S Barrett at blindside šŸ™„

      Does RTS have covid? If not why the flying f*** is Ennor on the bench ahead of him?
      And don’t even think about giving me the ā€˜experience’ BS.

      Ennor brings experience.

      posted in Rugby Matches
      Crazy Horse
      Crazy Horse