@sparky said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

Which test was Andrew Hore ABs captain for?

It was a club game.

@snowy said in RIP Phil the Greek:

One more year and he would have got a message from his wife.
Wonder what that would have been?

Actually feel quite sorry for the old girl. She really did love him.

A couple of years ago the son and his partner were doing the Windsor Castle walkthrough while we were in the pub. ('Two Brewers' if you are looking for a good one there) and while others in their group went rushing from item to item they stopped to just look out a window onto a courtyard. A door opened and out came Lizzie with a couple of dogs, a car pulls up and out hops Phil. She has a big smile and goes and gives him a hug. They luckily witnessed a totally real and candid moment between the two.

My own little experience was more formal but we got an invite to one of the garden parties at the big London house and then got selected to meet the old girl as she wandered through the garden. Anyway it is all quite formal and you get introduced etc. The wife and I use different surnames and because of a quirk in the way it was set up ended up standing on either side of a couple of friends. Anyway she has her little chat along the line to the others. Work talk. Then gets to me. 'and what brings you here Crucial?'. I pointed to the wife and said 'I'm just here as support and logistics for her'. She actually laughed and said 'Oh, I have one of those as well'.
After she moved on to the next group and we were released we had so many people come up and asked how we made her smile and laugh. The 'joke' was weak so I can only assume it was thinking about the silly old bugger.

@cantab79 said in AB Test Team v France.:

Can't believe people are seriously suggesting that Steve Hansen has not called up Akira Ioane because he is saving him for the Maori team. Is there any precedent to back up this theory? Luke Whitelock has outplayed Ioane at both Super Rugby and Mitre 10 Cup levels this year, and that's why he's been selected.

How does that pie taste?

Took a drive yesterday (only 5 km over the regional border) to a farm in the Wairarapa and picked up a new pup. 3 month old black lab. Very cool little fella. This will keep me busy.

Look. Tana and BOD have buried the hatchet and are sharing a laugh.

Next on Tana's list are @Kirwan and @Duluth

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@booboo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful

Was on the ITV coverage.

He had the look of a man who's swallowed a wasp during during a live TV interview and that distracted him from the fact he's also having a severe bowel spasm.

Excellent.

A quarter final exit is an Irish tradition isn’t it?

Planet Rugby’s Ireland fans are still delivering gold

“We knew all of this in advance.
That’s why Joe player what he felt was his best team.

In cooler weather, better ref, neutral location both teams given the same amount of rest and our B team puts 40 points on them.

Do we really think that Japan making the quarters wasn’t just what WR wanted?

At this rate Japan might make the semis or better.

Reminds me of Korea/Japan WC in the football.”

Also a whole thread about how bent Gardner is

http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=91481&sid=5594db999ca625c55956a0becc14a9dc

I don’t remember bok fans being this graceless at all and their team came back and gave ours a hell of a game in the semis.
I hope Heneke Meyer had a smile on his face last night .
The only downside for Japan is no one in their pool is going to take them lightly so they’ll be playing their top side if possible.

As a neutralish observer (I was obviously backing Japan) I didn't notice any obvious issues with the officiating. Did anyone? (Haven't read the thread.)

What are their specific whinge? Or is it just victim mentality?

Some of them have been saying Japan had an advantage because they play in the super rugby comp and are more used to the way Gardner refs .

Victim mentality, delusions of grandeur or just ungracious arseclowns? Take your pick

According to comments on the42 Ireland were beaten by some fella called Hugh Middity.
He wasn’t on the team sheets but must have been there because everyone is saying “Hi, Hugh Middity”

What about stupid people that think they can coach and select the ABs but have no clue about it. They can piss right of!

@allblacksfan72 said in Are there any All Blacks wildcards left ?:

How about George bridge? Has all the qualities needed for test rugby

A red and black jersey?

Can someone please correct this thread title. It is doing my head in.

Now I feel pressure.

@old-samurai-jack said in SRA round 8: Chiefs v Crusaders:

The way both teams dealt with the breakdown seemed completely different. The Crusaders were happy to concede a lot and fan across in defense. The Chiefs put numbers in there and there were numerous hands competing for the ball. I wonder if the Chiefs would have been penalized more with a different ref.
Great game, with some of the ABs coming into some form.

Goes both ways. Another ref may also have penalised the Crusaders for flopping.

@frank said in SRA round 8: Chiefs v Crusaders:

Thought McKenzie looked good at 10.
His transference was very quick and he changed the angle of attack several times.
There was no Beauden Barrett labored shoveling it on that I saw.

The biggest thing to note was the decision making. Not perfect but that’s a hard ask for any 10. Mostly right decisions and no brain fart ones.

@snowy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

@mn5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

I must be some kind of masochist. I actually read this over a coffee this morning.....

I got about 3 paragraphs in before I poured a coffee over it.

The first bit:
"We have forestry giants sending all our unprocessed wood overseas, to have it returned to us as plywood and hideous flat-pack furniture."

I agree with that. Adding value to our own product is just sensible. We could start with other building materials but I can live with the comment in general.

Then there was this and I stopped:
"Our farmers can't make a buck out of wool, because now all our carpetmakers, bar one or two, seem to be sourcing cheap and horrid synthetic carpeting from overseas."

She knows nothing about flooring / carpets. Wool only makes up about %10 of everything going into NZ homes. There are many reasons for this. SDN (solution dyed nylon) has come on in leaps and bounds. Stain resistant, healthier (allergies, etc) easy to clean, lasts longer. I could go on. It isn't "horrid" and it isn't a cheap acrylic alternative to wool. Wool gets carpet beetle, absorbs moisture. I could go on. The only people who buy wool from us now are, yep, farmers.

My point is if you are going to write an opinion piece at least do some research and know what you are talking about. An educated opinion it used to be called. Which is indeed the point of this thread.

I hope you don’t apply the criteria of that last paragraph to the fern.

@booboo said in SRA round 8: Chiefs v Crusaders:

@taniwharugby said in SRA round 8: Chiefs v Crusaders:

Is the captains challenge an IRB directive or just NZ (or are Aus using it too)

NZ experiment

The experiment has proven that it is a really dumb idea.

Stiff Little Fingers - Hanx
Still listen to the whole album at times probably helps that it’s a live album so you get the “experience “
When younger I went through two cassettes of this, two of Dexys Searching for the Young Soul Rebel and two of Toy Love. Those were the days. Car load of spotty teens screaming out Toy Love songs like a scene from Wayne’s World

@mn5 said in Decent Songs by Rubbish Bands:

@jk said in Decent Songs by Rubbish Bands:

@majorrage said in Decent Songs by Rubbish Bands:

@jk said in Decent Songs by Rubbish Bands:

Yeah I tried hard to get in to the tea party but rest of album was pretty meh. Still listening to heaps of 90s grungy rock at the moment.

Been saying that for 30 years now ...

Hard habit to shake when you look at some of the shit thats been served up since!

Indeed. As we’re all in our 40s ( or some fluffybunnies on here are even older ) the chances of finding a cool new band are extremely low.

Not at all ( and I am certainly one of the fluffybunnies you refer to).
I do listen to older music and artists for sure but have also discovered radio shows that not only deal to my tastes and known artists but constantly introduce me to new artists influenced by the stuff I like.
Totally Wired Radio (especially Eddie Piller) and BBC6 (Craig Charles) are great at this. They also introduce me to old music that I hadn’t heard.
As for the OP and question in the thread title I really can’t think of any band that I hate that have a song I like.

@crazy-horse said in Black Lives Matter:

@crucial said in Black Lives Matter:

@bones said in Black Lives Matter:

@catogrande said in Black Lives Matter:

@bones said in Black Lives Matter:

@crazy-horse would you not be a bit more focused in SBT? Or is it a muscle memory type thing?

If you're actually firing a weapon at someone, would you not be inclined to take that split second when the weapon is in front of you to check/aim before pulling the trigger?

And after 26 years?

I'm genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick.

You’d think easy right hand = gun. Awkward left hand = other means.

I think you generally wear your gun on the opposite hip for easy draw? In the video the other officer had taser on left and gun on right, so reach across for taser, or more awkward down and up to get gun out.

Edit: I think I read or saw that somewhere anyway, maybe in the Wiggles doc/book.

It's taser on opposite side. The taser manufacturers do everything they can to give you clues as to what you have grabbed. Colour, shape. no safety, different style of trigger.
From what I have seen though many cops wear the taser and gun so close together (more in the front) that you both are easily reached by the dominant hand without effort.

We wear the glock on the dominant side and the taser on the other. To draw the taser you reach across your body. We have to wear it that way.

Yep. That’s what I was trying to say. I have also seen photos where although the “rules” are followed the taser is more on the front of the non dominant side meaning that you don’t reach far.

@bones said in Black Lives Matter:

@catogrande said in Black Lives Matter:

@bones said in Black Lives Matter:

@crazy-horse would you not be a bit more focused in SBT? Or is it a muscle memory type thing?

If you're actually firing a weapon at someone, would you not be inclined to take that split second when the weapon is in front of you to check/aim before pulling the trigger?

And after 26 years?

I'm genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick.

You’d think easy right hand = gun. Awkward left hand = other means.

I think you generally wear your gun on the opposite hip for easy draw? In the video the other officer had taser on left and gun on right, so reach across for taser, or more awkward down and up to get gun out.

Edit: I think I read or saw that somewhere anyway, maybe in the Wiggles doc/book.

It's taser on opposite side. The taser manufacturers do everything they can to give you clues as to what you have grabbed. Colour, shape. no safety, different style of trigger.
From what I have seen though many cops wear the taser and gun so close together (more in the front) that you both are easily reached by the dominant hand without effort.

@crazy-horse said in Black Lives Matter:

@bones said in Black Lives Matter:

Sorry if it's already been discussed, but I've just seen the video and properly heard the story about Daunte Wright.

I mean, what the? After 26 years on the force how do you mistake your gun on one hip, for your taser on another? Surely they also feel quite different in the hand and then look quite different when you aim up...

I find it really hard to buy the mistake line. Moment of thoughtless madness?

Edit: it also seemed like even hurriedly firing a taser might have been a bit much in the situation, but hard to judge from a couple seconds of vid.

And did I see right that she somehow ended up without the gun?

It's actually not that hard to get mixed up. I have seen it done in training, and once I did it at change of shift. Someone asked for my Taser and I got my gun out and practically handed it to him before realising.

If it can happen in training it can definitely happen when it's squeaky but time.

Yeah, hard to read anything into this other than a tragic accident judging by her immediate reaction and shock. You could perhaps argue carelessness. If the situation only warranted a taser, and that was to stop him (he wasn't being aggressive) then it shouldn't have been such a frantic situation that you couldn't check.
I watched the video and it is unclear if the cop that did the shooting pulled the weapon at the last moment or had already pulled it. That could make a difference in that she pulled the gun then started thinking taser and got confused.
Just shows how fucked up the US is that police even feel the need to be pulling any weapons in such a benign situation. If they had stepped back and talked he would have driven off. Big fucking deal.
They must think Police 10-7 in NZ is a comedy. I've seen scrotes on that actually pushing and taking swings at cops and they still just de-escalate the situation as priority.