@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

@Crucial @Bones I'm not comparing levels of rugby, i'm comparing the fact that Jordie Barrett's natural position growing up through age grade & provincial, before being played out of position in Super - was at 12. For all you know J Barrett may have played more minutes overall at 12 compared to Laumape regardless of level played, especially considering Laumape went to league for those early pro years. But if you are comparing Super and International then yes Laumape would be the more conservative option considering he has more minutes in that position at that level.

Still ignoring the fact that as players go up the rugby tree their ideal position may change.
The ABs really missed a trick not player Mealamu at 7 didn't they?
Many a top level player plays a different position if they go back to their club for example. I've seen loosies play in the backs, props play backrow, wingers play 10 etc etc.
Having a great skillset will give you choice of position at lower levels but the position requirements dictate where you play at higher levels.
Another little question for you. How is JBs international record at 12? Was part of the worst U20s lineup in years IIRC.

@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

@Bones I see him as a 12 already so that's probably where the confusion lies. Yes it isn't conservative if you are moving a 15 to 12 when there is already an established 12 there, where I'm coming from is that I think J Barrett has enough experience to warrant the tag as a current 12 keeping the 15 jersey warm for someone else.

Here's a question. How many games has JB played at 12 above club/age grade level compared to his experience at 15/14?
My rough count has him at 4 times the experience in the back three and all at higher levels than at 12.

@Bones said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

@Bones Conservative to me is someone that is discreet or cautious in their approach. If you think playing Laumape at 12 is more cautious than playing J Barrett there, so be it.

It's odd, but yes I find the most conservative approach would be playing the proven 12 at 12, rather than the 15 at 12. Zany idea I know.

I agree. I fail to see the logic in @Canes4life s argument here.

You have a choice between playing an AB 12 at 12 or an AB 15/14 at 12.
The punter might opt for the latter on potential while the conservative route is to go with the guy your peers selected for even higher honours than you can offer. Simple really.

@Canes4life joking aside, a player's age grade position is not always their best when they go up levels.
Different levels of game require different play. Kahui is a similar example. He was even a very classy centre at Super level yet the ABs were reluctant to use him there saying he was more suited in tests on the wing.
As for JB wanting to play 12 at Super level, he should have picked a better employer. Chiefs would run a JB/ALB combo. Highlanders would gladly accommodate him there as well

@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

@Crucial If he was playing 12 this would never have eventuated.

So the plan is to hide him at 12 so he has less time to make dumb decisions and BB can skip pass him straight to Goodhue?
I can see the logic in that. He can use his calm demeanour to run dummy lines.

@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

@Crucial His mistake was passing it to a Blues player.

I think you'll find he passed it to the ground (in a cool calm manner of course)

@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

…... I think J Barrett, with his …...cool, calm and collected demenour …

You mean this cool, calm collected demeanour?

@Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

@Derm-McCrum So if Ireland smash England, do they take top in the world rankings? Either way they'll have it by the end of the tournament

Edit. No where near, I thought incorrectly the opening game is in England.

1 New Zealand 92.54
2 Ireland 91.48 (+0.31)
3 Wales 87.24
4 England 85.91 (-0.31)

No. Ireland beating Eng by over 15 still has them over a point behind NZ.

England can overtake Ireland with a 15+ win

If Ireland win all their games they may top the rankings but it is hard to calc that without guessing other outcomes.

Either DMac or Reiko to break Habana/Lomu/Savea's tries in a RWC tournament record (depending on who plays against Namibia)

Whitelock to break or equal McCaw's winning RWC appearances record

EDIT: Blues to make the SR finals at the expense of Highlanders

@jegga said in TV Serieseseses:

Sex Education . Best opening scene ever.
Gillian Anderson looks good at 51 and theres a chick whos like a filthier version of Margot Robbie.

For community service, what @jegga should have made clearer here is that the opening scenes contain decent shots of a rather nice pair.