@rotated said in Brexit:
@Crucial said in Brexit:
As for 'just get on with it' we come back to the big problem that caused all of this in fighting and inaction - what is 'it'. All very well trotting out 'leave means leave' and 'Brexit means Brexit' but there are obvious complexities that need decisions made that aren't quite that simple.
The "just get on with it" sentiment I think is more about a mindset and approach to negotations/preperations for an exit rather than a specific plan.
It would be very fucking strange if after three years of tumultuous separation/divorce proceedings the party who "I know I decided unequivocally to leave you, but now I'm concerned this alimony thing is going to comprimise the next five years of my financial life so maybe we can make this work?"
A divorce is not a financial windfall.
Get on with it means leave, seperate, go. VM's description of what 'it' is, is spot on IMO. In a decision between May's Deal and No Deal the answer should be obvious - go, get the fuck out and worry about the details later.
….and we come full circle to Northern Ireland.
(the 'details' aren't insignificant or quickly remedied either)
Once again, as we see over and over at the moment, partisan type arguments whereby extreme views are painted as the views of all that take a 'side' in order to ridicule or shout down sensible debate.
Mention no deal hardships or difficulties and the cries of 'scaremonger' ring out and then counter claims of empty shops and blocked roads get said.
It is totally irresponsible for anyone with a public mouthpiece on this topic to dismiss or hide the very real difficulties and hardships people will face with no transition period and a chance to work through the issues.
Goods from Europe WILL likely increase in price as WTO rules state that no preference can be given.
British farmers will have to offload their product domestically as it will be over priced in Europe
A year ago 5,500 UK financial businesses relied on EU passporting rights that generated £9B to the UK. Some of those will have either upped sticks already or set up subsidiaries to do their EU work but the fact remains that a no deal will simply cut that cord altogether.
That's just a couple of facts that aren't scaremongering. Others would be loss of easy movement for business and leisure travel. The French border control have already thrown their toys out the cot over the extra workload and the official advice is not to try and Eurostar back from Paris because you simply wont get through control in time for your train.
Loads and loads of little things that a part of general UK life and taken for granted with regard to Europe. eg no phone roaming charges, no geoblocking, holiday and flight rules regarding cancellations and compensation. Currently about 15% of flights being sold in the UK may have to be cancelled as the landing rights for newly added flights are 'up in the air'
No, the sun will still come up and try and peak through the cloudy skies but instead of sweeping statements on both sides surely the impacts should be being made very clear to people.